[Avey Pear]

Hey, I thought it would be cool to get a new equipment thread up again being that I think we lost the old one.

My main question is does anyone know what Avey was using on his solo tour?

[archie]

monomachine
mpc
moog realistic mg-1

[lhtd]

I'd be curious to know what Panda is using on his new stuff.

[Yuki]

Heres the infamous article from my favey engineer magizine. Has the equipment and some awesome details on MPP recording.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may09/a ... animal.htm

[StrangeClams]

i need to know what geologist and panda are doing when i see them twiddling knobs in the 2005-2006 tours. samplers? minidiscs? both?

[archie]

for the pre strawb jam shows
panda just has an sp 303
geologist has an sp 404 and minidiscs,maybe some other things other than his mixer.

im also super interested in what panda is using now

[StrangeClams]

probably a bunch of samplers. new stuff doesn't sound like it's too synth heavy like tomboy.

for his songs with harmonies, is noah playing a back track or is there a pedal/harmonizer vst doing that?

[archie]

yo he def wouldnt be usin a backin track i dont think. i kno he def in the past triggered his harmonies (bros) live with his sp 303 pre 2007 and his sp 555 post 2007. i suspect he's spinning looped discs more n more these days bcos of that big box with four xlr's and the plastic cd cover lookin thing.

[Avey Pear]

Does anyone know exactly what gear Panda Bear was using during his Person Pitch shows? Was it just two SP-555's or was there more?

[lhtd]

Person Pitch was two 303's. When he played with AC he used two 555's.

[coollodges]

Whoa I always thought it was two 404's on PP.

[archie]

no bro
they dont have the smooth 303 texture

[archie]

mm it def would have been a factor. altho he does cite donuts as a influence for tmoboy

[lhtd]

The 404 came out 2005. I'm not sure when Noah started working with samples, but the Homebase EP came out in 2004, so that eliminates the 404 all together for writing the PP songs. Not to mention the artwork for PP has 303's. And yeah, Dilla and Madlib and a lot of the Stones Throw dudes use them religiously.

As for the sound of the 303, both the 303 and 404 are built on the same engine. Any perceived discrepancies between the two are most likely due to another piece of gear or are imagined. You could also be hearing the effects on the 303 since the Boss version used a different algorithm for some of the effects.

Aside from general curiosity, if you're planning on making music with samplers, there is no difference between the 303 and 404, other than the 404 is portable, has more pads and is easier to store audio on (the newer 404SX uses SD cards). If you really want something with a 'sound', try a MPC 3000 / MPC 60 or a SP-1200.

[archie]

i think sp 303's sound different and p bear said that as well so idk maybe it is my imagination but the 404 sounds brighter to me

[lhtd]

I've never heard the difference - not that my ears are the Old Testament or anything. But I do tend to err on the side caution before I label audio equipment one way or the other. It'd be interesting to do a blind listening of both samplers, or really of all samplers.

I've come to think that many people like to believe something sounds good just because they hold a dogma based off of the cultural ideology for what the item represents (i.e. FLAC files and cassettes/vinyl records). Not that there aren't real differences in sound quality between various equipment, but one has to weigh in the coloring and distortion added by mixers, pre-amps, compressors, DA/AD convertors, software, and speakers. Frankly, I don't believe so many people in the world have such vast and deep knowledge to speak with certainty as to categorize what they hear. I can testify personally that I do not.

Anyway. Animal Collective. With all the growing complexity of AC's music, and consequently gear, I can't help but say I fiend for more simplicity. Simplicity and slowness. Dave & Angel's improv show is a step down my favorite road.

[StrangeClams]

BTW in slasher flicks Angel is playing a Juno 60 and a Voyager and she has some kind of multi-fx pedal

The only pedals I can pick out from dave's board are the Pigtronix Mothership that Jen mentioned and the purple pedal off to the side.

[dance avey dance]

StrangeClamsSequel wrote:

BTW in slasher flicks Angel is playing a Juno 60 and a Voyager and she has some kind of multi-fx pedal

The only pedals I can pick out from dave's board are the Pigtronix Mothership that Jen mentioned and the purple pedal off to the side.

I can also make out a mxr distortion +, crazy horse distortion, Arion flanger, Apollo phaser, memory man, and boss delay. There is 1 more that I can't figure out

[archie]

dyland wrote:

I've never heard the difference - not that my ears are the Old Testament or anything. But I do tend to err on the side caution before I label audio equipment one way or the other. It'd be interesting to do a blind listening of both samplers, or really of all samplers.

I've come to think that many people like to believe something sounds good just because they hold a dogma based off of the cultural ideology for what the item represents (i.e. FLAC files and cassettes/vinyl records). Not that there aren't real differences in sound quality between various equipment, but one has to weigh in the coloring and distortion added by mixers, pre-amps, compressors, DA/AD convertors, software, and speakers. Frankly, I don't believe so many people in the world have such vast and deep knowledge to speak with certainty as to categorize what they hear. I can testify personally that I do not.

Anyway. Animal Collective. With all the growing complexity of AC's music, and consequently gear, I can't help but say I fiend for more simplicity. Simplicity and slowness. Dave & Angel's improv show is a step down my favorite road.

i agree with all of this

[Avey Pear]

I'd definitely like to see them if you don't mind, Tonese.

[Sam]

saida took this pic at the band's "hometown show" in LA:



also lots of excellent avey shots found here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/woodworksm ... 291567619/

[lhtd]

Dave needs one of these bad boys:



Also, how did a collaboration with Grouper never happen when they toured with her in 2009? "Bleed" would have made for an excellent Grouper remix.

[dance avey dance]

Sam wrote:

saida took this pic at the band's "hometown show" in LA:



also lots of excellent avey shots found here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/woodworksm ... 291567619/

Back row: Arion flanger, mxr distortion +, Apollo phaser, memory man, boss delay
Front row: pigtronix mothership, crazy horse distortion, and something else next to the power supply that I can't figure out

[strawberrymeat]

yeah i wish i knew anything about how they make music/in general... ): will someone give me lessons

[dance avey dance]

scarybaeri wrote:

saida those are super great photos of avey.
i'm also jealous that d.a.d. can figure out the equipment from these pics, my head hurts just looking at them

haha I did some hardcore studying of that photo since saida initially posted it months ago. I only figured out the Apollo phaser yesterday after an intense google image search of analog phasers.

[StrangeClams]

they had the korg m3 in 2009

[lhtd]

That was after Merriweather. Could have been used on FBK though.

There's also a Novation Bass Station and a Fender Rhodes on MPP.

[Sam]

it's hard to say for sure because there are so many different makes and models but i always picked avey's strat as a 50's reissue (maybe '56 or '57). they have the same maple neck and vintage style tuning pegs as avey's and are made in the same colour (seafoam green).

[archie]

when they recorded mpp and chz panda still used 303's becuase of his preference to them over ze sp555. i cant find ze interview but he says they still used ze 303 on chz and its their 'secret weapon' cause he thinks everything sounds better out of it. and from ze photo of the studio for mpp u can see his two 303's. sorry all the information i have is basically about the 303. cant not love it

[Avey Pear]

Anyone know what Avey used for Spirit? Also, did he actually go record at a studio or did he do a home recording?

[archie]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_The ... e_Vanished
that has a lot of info

[Avey Pear]

Can someone please tell me what Avey is holding here? I've always wanted to know.

[Curved Hair]

isn't it a vintage phaser unit? or did I make that up

we discussed this when down there first came out

[coollodges]

Curved Hair wrote:

isn't it a vintage phaser unit? or did I make that up

we discussed this when down there first came out

That sounds about right. Maybe the symbol on the front is a clue but probably not.

[jagag]

dance avey dance wrote:

Back row: Arion flanger, mxr distortion +, Apollo phaser, memory man, boss delay
Front row: pigtronix mothership, crazy horse distortion, and something else next to the power supply that I can't figure out

The last one is an alesis ampliton

[dance avey dance]

Hoooooray!!!! THANK YOU!

[Sam]

coollodges wrote:

Curved Hair wrote:

isn't it a vintage phaser unit? or did I make that up

we discussed this when down there first came out

That sounds about right. Maybe the symbol on the front is a clue but probably not.

it's a flanger, not sure what model.

[Curved Hair]

ah, there you go

[archie]

can anyone make out what he's using here? im p sure thats his mixer to his left but i dont know the main box to his right with the multiple xlr inputs to his right, any suggestions?

[archie]

it looks like two boxes of the same model
n the mic stand disguises the separation between the two