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Er, if the link I got is the only one out there I'm just gonna wait until tomorrow :/
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'bum is yum
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Zizek

They’ve had debates, Zizek and the mystery man. “The Left” hates him. And I hate politics and ideology so he shall remain unnamed. Can’t get that phrase/idea outta my head tho—how art that is somehow true “removes what is unworthy.” Beautiful.

People who are privy to a little clinical psychology certainly hate him as well. I appreciate you sharing that line, because I think it's awful. 'Worthiness' has no place in serious music discussion, pretty prescriptive thing to say in my opinion.

Trying not to come off as bad faith btw. Just my 2 cents. Love when new album cycles drive lurkers like me to post

Welcome back. How I’m interpreting the phrase: when a band “clicks”—we’re talking about the live experience here—and the audience feels it, knows it, they together manifest something true that didn’t before exist in that space, or something. What is “unworthy”? Anything countering that vibe—a bad attitude, whatever seeks to divide and disconnect or obstruct, whatever isn’t supporting the creation happening in that ephemeral moment. I’d include poor musicianship, bad songwriting, insincerity, etc. here. But I’m talking the psychological experience here, not the music necessarily, though the choice of tones, timbres, lyrics, melodies, timing, energy, all the undefinable elements have something to do with creating this true art too. I mean, this “feeling” or achievement or whatever it is definitely doesn’t happen every time music is conjured. We’re AC fiends for a reason.
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Between the super interesting last two tracks on 7s and Noah’s weird guitar tuning work, I can see th next next anco record being crazy unique. Looking forward to what’s next
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wilandhugs wrote:
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Zizek

They’ve had debates, Zizek and the mystery man. “The Left” hates him. And I hate politics and ideology so he shall remain unnamed. Can’t get that phrase/idea outta my head tho—how art that is somehow true “removes what is unworthy.” Beautiful.

People who are privy to a little clinical psychology certainly hate him as well. I appreciate you sharing that line, because I think it's awful. 'Worthiness' has no place in serious music discussion, pretty prescriptive thing to say in my opinion.

I wonder consider myself 'privy' to 'a little clinical psychology' being a licensed psychotherapist and all. If we're going to speak abstractly about psychologists then I would say they tend to err on using words like 'hate' with regard to the psychology of other people. I think you're just pulling out generic talking points you've picked up online. If the person in question is guilty of anything from my clinical perspective (which he is), it's namely that this person grossly misappropriates Jung. Even so, that wouldn't render 'hate' in me––actually, contrarily, it invites my curiosity. Maybe I should listen more to this person in question in order to understand their perspective from within itself rather than impose my external judgement upon them... maybe I'll learn something about my own styles of thinking...

With regard to 'worthiness'... it's so challenging to have any conversation on this board that doesn't disintegrate to 'opinions' and 'feelings'. It's like people are afraid of IDEAS, of entering them, seeing how they relate to each other, following them with consideration and earnestness. Like dude, I realize this is 'just a message board' but your dismissiveness while upholding a negating opinion is telling. What is 'worthiness' as a notion? How do you understand its concept in the context of beauty? How might we talk about the play of the sublime in music like AC's?
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Shouldn't have said anything. Sorry to piss off the arm chairs. Carry on with the AC discussion.
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oh ok
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lmao

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ive always been really interested in the discussion of the sublime. i've certainly felt "it" countless times with AC's music. If we're gonna dip our toes into it, what do you guys think the most "sublime" parts of their music are? campfire songs hits the hardest for me in that way, in terms of "studio albums," and there's so many live recordings where i catch glimpses of it

and in terms of the nitty-gritty of the aforementioned Smart Guy's take on the sublime, I'm not sure what he could mean by "removing what is unworthy"
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If you guys keep talking about Jordan Peterson I'm going to stop paying for the forum
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Shit i still thought we were talking about emerson
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Ew
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play doh looking mother fucker you mean
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i mean it's kinda cool that we have someone documenting the everyday life of Panda Bear now. just happening upon him chilling in a city with a dog strapped to his chest, i'll take this content
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Kind of funny that Time Skiffs only has 1 point higher on Metacritic than Centipede Hz
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Avey mentioned in that FaceCulture interview that he’s hoping to get the Spirit reissue out this year
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^ Hell yeah, I'm hopeful that Domino and AC will do justice to this most sacred of reissues given how solid all the other ones have been so far (Sung Tongs/Feels in particular)

Did he say anything about it still being a full remaster?
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He made it sound like it’s a remaster- he said he’s been working on it. Very exciting.

I hope that bodes well for him resurrecting a song from the album for his tour this spring. The song spirit theyre gone would be beautiful with his new stuff
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He made it sound like it’s a remaster- he said he’s been working on it. Very exciting.

I hope that bodes well for him resurrecting a song from the album for his tour this spring. The song spirit theyre gone would be beautiful with his new stuff

He also answered "Yes" in his recent AMA when someone asked about those songs live. I think it's a safe bet for his solo shows but would be more excited about one of those songs resurfacing in a full band setting.
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He also answered "Yes" in his recent AMA when someone asked about those songs live. I think it's a safe bet for his solo shows but would be more excited about one of those songs resurfacing in a full band setting.


Also considering he played La Rapet on that Folk Medicine Zoom concert.
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Two newer interviews not sure if they've already been shared.
Avey:
https://floodmagazine.com/126205/avey-tare-7s-in-convo/
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https://thequietus.com/articles/32628-p ... -interview
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"excited to start the climb back to playing solo shows as I am starting to finally work on my next record."

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I'll be there!
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yo nice! any chance of being able to record? if not, at least looking forward to hearing about it! would be cool if he played pb hearts...
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Yeah I might be able to get a boot, I'll keep everyone posted.
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oh dammit i am the biggest Cindy Lee fan ever, this is a dream show!

please if you can Hellomark, would greatly appreciate if you got a boot of Cindy Lee too. most of all, just enjoy the show for the rest of us. sure to be amazing.
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The living toys / jimmy raven is secretly one of the best ac songs
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oh dammit i am the biggest Cindy Lee fan ever, this is a dream show!

please if you can Hellomark, would greatly appreciate if you got a boot of Cindy Lee too. most of all, just enjoy the show for the rest of us. sure to be amazing.

I'll see what I can do! I haven't really listened to Cindy Lee at all, though I've always heard great things, and I loved the band Women. From what I've heard I'm sure it will be up my alley. Do you think I should immerse myself in Cindy material before the show or wait to be introduced in a live setting?
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I probably listened to some of Women, don't remember it really. Heard a few Cindy Lee songs and love love love this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-0jaie9B5E
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cindy lee talk??? oh man massive fan here too! this show seems like a dream!!! when i saw them open for preoccupations they did mostly new material and it blew me away. i think besides skiffs 2 the new cindy lee album is most anticipated album of the year. y'all who go are in for a treat!!
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cindy lee talk??? oh man massive fan here too! this show seems like a dream!!! when i saw them open for preoccupations they did mostly new material and it blew me away. i think besides skiffs 2 the new cindy lee album is most anticipated album of the year. y'all who go are in for a treat!!
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For sure, Diamond Jubilee is my most anticipated album besides for TS2 as well, maybe even surpassing it. Supposed to be a double album. I know they're sitting on a ton of really good songs.

I also saw them open for Preoccs last year too and really enjoyed the set. I uploaded the boot to the Women/Cindy Lee thread in the music forum.

Since it'll be mostly new material, Hellomark, I wouldn't worry too much about familiarizing yourself. If anything, listen to the album What's Tonight to Eternity.

Definitely check out "I Don't Want to Fall In Love Again" which Fovrodi posted to get you in the mood.
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hey, does anyone know where i could find the video of nyu tisch students performing a contemporary dance routine to cuckoo cuckoo? it used to be on youtube but i think it may have been taken down because i can't find it when i search. thanks in advance :)
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Have to say goodbye to my sweet wonderful dog today. I was driving and listening to doggy while absolutely sobbing earlier. Thankful for this beautiful song and band today more than ever.
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Very sorry to hear that mate. I'm sure you gave your dog a wonderful life x
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thinking about how it's kind of wild covered in frogs never got recorded. it comes across as a highlight of both the original sung tongs shows and the 2018 sung tongs tour, such great energy. did the band ever say why it was never recorded?
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Whoa!
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kind of comforting to remind ourselves that they've been making head-scratching decisions in the studio since the early days. if sung tongs had covered in frogs sleeping factory and happy singing band it would have been a monster of a record, but i would have been fine with those songs even just ending up on an ep or as b sides or something
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