[Avey Tane]

Yah, any info he's giving to a complete stranger/fan on IG (dm or otherwise) is fair game
b real

[Tropic]

Would love if he posted it and the band logged in here, saw it and cornpilled the new album

[clayton]

Stanshant wrote:

Saferintheflowers wrote:

weed wrote:

Saferintheflowers wrote:

I messaged you what he said. ..I just don't wanna post it on here bc I feel that would be lame of me to do so. .. I appreciated him answering me

bitch u aint special

just post it

hahaha... naw bitch. .. its not about being special. Its out of respect. Im not a fcking journalist.. He was kind enough to respond to me and I feel like it would be disrespectful to turn around an post it. .. Soo ya. ...but i do feel pretty special that Avey messaged me back.. (out of fairness, i shouldve even said anything lol)

It wasn't even your question, you illiterate runt.

You should be banned from the forum for your grasping conceit.

Also yeah, bumpin to say I never fully appreciated this album as AC canon. This sound is fucking sick and criminally underrated. Scary psych rock 4 life.

[Stanshant]

I didn't mean what I said, just saw it scrolling to new replies and it read as pretty nasty, was meant to be mock outrage.

That said, I put you straight on my Foe list.

[real slippi]

Stanshant wrote:

That said, I put you straight on my Foe list.

[real slippi]

thebackdrifter wrote:

snrubsa wrote:

thebackdrifter wrote:

AnCo seems to be pretty inspired and involved with astrological meanings and interpretations from what I have heard/seen in their music and on instagram.
And Avey in particular seems to reference these signs and draw upon the mythology around them in his lyrics.

I'm not sure if I know where you're coming from, what were a few examples you were thinking of?
What references and what signs?
I'm not sure if i've noticed a lot of astrological allusions in avey's lyrics

In general I hear about phases of the moon, sun stars. now that I'm looking back at lyrics they never really explicitly say anything and my statement was actually rooted in some of the more ambiguous lyrics that I personally drew an association with mythological and astrological events/scenarios. I apologize if I made it sound like Avey or AnCo explicitly has mentioned them. I'll try to explain some of those associations I have discovered and related to but nothing has been confirmed by the band explicitly to these associations from what I know.

This video is really weird but he really describes some of his feelings about the Down There record and his inspirations of creating his own mythology and how he interpreted his real life situations but abstracted it in the art.

In Laughing Hieroglyphic I feel he referred to a Lion entering his dreams, He seems to try to convince himself that the lion in his dreams need to be accepted as himself. All of the other lyrics in this song seem to be confessions of his feelings and the lion lines a confirmation that this is the right thing to do(be honest and express himself). This song connected to me to Lion in a Coma where avey seems to describing a lion inside the wilderness of his head that needs to come out. Reminsing of old times and having the need to express himself to the ones close to him about his feelings and move forward. Maybe the lion was alseep inside him and that now it was time to awaken it in Down There? The lion could be anything but if I look at what a Leo traits in Astrology I can't help but associate those traits to help him stay strong while dealing with strong feelings/emotions which we seem to know was happening during this time in his personal life.

Cent. hz era gave me that feeling that he had been alluding to some myths. Crimson mentions "Eagle on my head tonight" which connects in my brain to shamans who would wear spirit animal costumes and headdresses. This Eagle connection goes into Applesauce at the end when he chants "One the eagle, Two the Nobel, Three the lizard, Four the soul" That chant just feels like a statement of phases or a list of important items to take care of. The repetition makes me feel like it is a mantra and he is trying to reenforce some symbol association. An Eagle on his head (embodying the spirit). Before I read the lyrics, I always assumed it was "Noble" and possibly an allusion to class status, or a person with that class status intellectually or creatively. The lizard could be the crocodile from Down There, he references in that video that the crocodile is ancient but there is knowledge that comes from that. The soul is pretty apparent to me to be that unquestionable but ultimately unexplainable thing that connects us from being just purely physical beings.

Amanita, to me, is a reflection on what happens when we don't have mythologies and connections to nature in our everyday life, it seems that some of those mystic stories are trying to be passed through art, but with the increase of technology, one must go back to the forest(nature) to retrieve these mythologies and bring them back to us in the form of their music. (that interpretation could be a huge stretch on my part)

Your Card seems to reference Tarot "You can learn to play the game, but you still got to live with your card." Meaning you can play the game of life and learn how to do it well, but you still gotta remember the type of person you are and to stay true to yourself. In Tarot/Astrology you have a sign/card that is dealt to you at birth or at a particular moment in your life.

His new song Fly is very tribal and soon after it was released he changed his name on instagram to AveyTareVoiceoftheFly, which just gave me a big impression he was accepting/creating a mask to perform and create within.

When Panda Bear was on the feels tour he created the character "Edgar" and it seemed to be a creative exercise similar to creating a mask/persona to perform a ritual or embody a particular spirit that isn't your original state of mind. Also Panda seems to recall his Edgar character and denounce it as an old way of becoming creative but that he had found a new way in Grim Reaper in the song Selfish Gene
"With a wig on
That ain't it
It might seem they making songs
Now they really making noise

Total shift in the unconscious

You'll trip up again
Go get up again"


Also Panda referenced seeing a healer witch person and getting the inspiration for mr. noah with the spirit animals that the witch described.

wrote:

"I was talking to this healer witch person who lives down the river a little bit," he says. "And she was like, 'You have three spirit animals. The first is a wolf. The second is a bear. And the third is an eagle.' So I set up the song according to that, and I tried to find bits of myself that I thought fit into that template."
http://pitchfork.com/features/cover-sto ... -wanderer/

I find it interesting that Panda being told one of his spirit animals is an eagle, which is something we heard in Cent. Hz era.

I'm sure I could find more examples that aren't on the top of my head, but there are a few. I'm excited to see if I can find more associates in Painting With, since they seem to be influenced by visual art movements/concepts.

Avey also dedicated that it won't grow to "all of the Pisces out there" at the show that slasher flicks played on angel's birthday

[Cloud]

"the outlaw is the future..."

....

[beumuth]

wrote:

In Laughing Hieroglyphic I feel he referred to a Lion entering his dreams, He seems to try to convince himself that the lion in his dreams need to be accepted as himself. All of the other lyrics in this song seem to be confessions of his feelings and the lion lines a confirmation that this is the right thing to do(be honest and express himself). This song connected to me to Lion in a Coma where avey seems to describing a lion inside the wilderness of his head that needs to come out. Reminsing of old times and having the need to express himself to the ones close to him about his feelings and move forward. Maybe the lion was alseep inside him and that now it was time to awaken it in Down There? The lion could be anything but if I look at what a Leo traits in Astrology I can't help but associate those traits to help him stay strong while dealing with strong feelings/emotions which we seem to know was happening during this time in his personal life.

I interpret the Lion being used as a symbol for playfulness and sexuality in Lion in a Coma. "This wilderness up in my head needs to get right out of my clothes and get into my bedroom", "Lion in a coma wants to smell the fine aroma". I wish I could understand the rest of the lyrics in the song : /.

If the Lion is the same character in Laughing Hieroglyphic as it is in Lion in a Coma, then I think it's being used to show a feeling of absolute guilt. The whole song is filled with confessional lyrics "When I get fucked up I do the best to make myself not fuck up again", "I must have wrapped you up and left you hanging upside down while I was too busy getting lost in the big sound". I get the sense that the "you" in this song is not himself, but an ex-lover. So when he sings (I hear this lyric a little differently than how you quoted it) "Lying in your dreams the lion is good for your dreams except that I am the lion would probably try to come and embrace you too", it is not a way to accept who he is, in fact it's a condemnation of who he is. He is saying that playfulness and sexuality in general is good for her, but in this case it is not, because it takes the form of him, and he has had such a destructive impact on her. I see "embrace" here not as an acceptance, but as a way to try to sooth someone who was hurt. The fact that the lion would do this means that even avey's playful side feels guilty about something it did.

wrote:

This Eagle connection goes into Applesauce at the end when he chants "One the eagle, Two the Nobel, Three the lizard, Four the soul" That chant just feels like a statement of phases or a list of important items to take care of.

I don't have a clue what eagle, noble and lizard are supposed to symbolize, but you could also hear the last part as "for the soul" instead of "four the soul", if that helps out your listing.

[Texas Trill]

Pudd wrote:

I don't have a clue what eagle, noble and lizard are supposed to symbolize, but you could also hear the last part as "for the soul" instead of "four the soul", if that helps out your listing.

I also like to hear it as:

"Won, the eagle
To the noble
Free the lizard
For the soul,"

[thebackdrifter]

Pudd wrote:

Spoiler: show

wrote:

In Laughing Hieroglyphic I feel he referred to a Lion entering his dreams, He seems to try to convince himself that the lion in his dreams need to be accepted as himself. All of the other lyrics in this song seem to be confessions of his feelings and the lion lines a confirmation that this is the right thing to do(be honest and express himself). This song connected to me to Lion in a Coma where avey seems to describing a lion inside the wilderness of his head that needs to come out. Reminsing of old times and having the need to express himself to the ones close to him about his feelings and move forward. Maybe the lion was alseep inside him and that now it was time to awaken it in Down There? The lion could be anything but if I look at what a Leo traits in Astrology I can't help but associate those traits to help him stay strong while dealing with strong feelings/emotions which we seem to know was happening during this time in his personal life.

I interpret the Lion being used as a symbol for playfulness and sexuality in Lion in a Coma. "This wilderness up in my head needs to get right out of my clothes and get into my bedroom", "Lion in a coma wants to smell the fine aroma". I wish I could understand the rest of the lyrics in the song : /.

If the Lion is the same character in Laughing Hieroglyphic as it is in Lion in a Coma, then I think it's being used to show a feeling of absolute guilt. The whole song is filled with confessional lyrics "When I get fucked up I do the best to make myself not fuck up again", "I must have wrapped you up and left you hanging upside down while I was too busy getting lost in the big sound". I get the sense that the "you" in this song is not himself, but an ex-lover. So when he sings (I hear this lyric a little differently than how you quoted it) "Lying in your dreams the lion is good for your dreams except that I am the lion would probably try to come and embrace you too", it is not a way to accept who he is, in fact it's a condemnation of who he is. He is saying that playfulness and sexuality in general is good for her, but in this case it is not, because it takes the form of him, and he has had such a destructive impact on her. I see "embrace" here not as an acceptance, but as a way to try to sooth someone who was hurt. The fact that the lion would do this means that even avey's playful side feels guilty about something it did.

Spoiler: show

wrote:

This Eagle connection goes into Applesauce at the end when he chants "One the eagle, Two the Nobel, Three the lizard, Four the soul" That chant just feels like a statement of phases or a list of important items to take care of.

I don't have a clue what eagle, noble and lizard are supposed to symbolize, but you could also hear the last part as "for the soul" instead of "four the soul", if that helps out your listing.

Awesome thoughts. Thanks for sharing!

[coollodges]

Cloud wrote:

"the outlaw is the future..."

....

this song

[thebackdrifter]

Had a dream last night that Avey, Angel and Jeremy started a new band called "Mix" It included a keyboard player I have never heard of before. The music was more 80s dance inspired from what I can remember. In my dream I was looking to buy the new release at a record store but they informed me they had never heard of it and that their systems was showing for it to come out April 1st so I would have to wait. I also for some reason was in their tour van (not a bus) and Jeremy was driving while we all just hung out in the back of the van cracking jokes. super weird.

[BORCHENKO??]

speaking of dreams, i had a dream last night where i was ordering at a cinnabon. its a recurring dream i've had 3 times now. i've never been to a cinnabon

[roopn]

[zack]

Anyone else think A Sender is equal to the best stuff on Painting With? It and Laughing Hieroglyphic are two of my all time favorite Avey songs. (Along with Slow Words and dementia ) Its slasher flicks song and amazing as is but can you imagine A Sender as an AC jam

[Stanshant]

Yeah, my first listen of that song made me feel like when I first fell in love with them. It builds like DYSTW but moodier and more muscular. Some of the album is great, especially That It Won't Grow, which would be joint fave on CHz probably, but a lot has passed me by. I'll come back to it in time.

[roopn]

ETSH came out of nowhere for me :'(
I literally knew nothing about it before Little Fang got released, which got me excited but every other song went in such a different direction that the album didn't make a lot of sense to me. One day I think it'll grow on me. Maybe I should hear the pre-album boots. I have listened to the pitchfork show that's on youtube which is pretty great, and that shed light on That it Won't Grow which I agree is a highlight.

[Tropic]

That It Won't Grow, The Outlaw, Roses, and Modern Days are all awesome

[Mr Fingers]

Does anyone remember that second album Avey said he might release?
Something about a sunshine electronic sort of record. Do you think that ended up being his songs on Painting With?

[Ethmin]

zack wrote:

Anyone else think A Sender is equal to the best stuff on Painting With? It and Laughing Hieroglyphic are two of my all time favorite Avey songs. (Along with Slow Words and dementia ) Its slasher flicks song and amazing as is but can you imagine A Sender as an AC jam

Yes! I love A Sender so much. I have a playlist going right now of all my favorite Avey songs since Down There. It's like,
Ghost of Books
Golden Gal
A Sender
Laughing Hierolyphic
more painting with stuff
Little Fang
Mercury Man

I think I got blind babe in there too paired with the burglars

[zack]

MODERN DAISY MAKE ME CRAZY!

[speen]

zack wrote:

Anyone else think A Sender is equal to the best stuff on Painting With? It and Laughing Hieroglyphic are two of my all time favorite Avey songs.

theyre both better than anything on painting with imo. I really love down there, and I like a lot of the songs on slasher house but i think they were rather crushed by overproduction. songs like modern daze e could really punch with less muddled production

also ethmin thats a good list. i always though mercury man deserved more love

[zack]

I could see better too honestly.

I think Mercury Man doesn't get its due (including with me) because live Mercury was way more intense and emotional.

[real slippi]

I'm more excited about avey's songwriting from painting with than any time since strawberry jam, but here are some thoughts on his songwriting over the past 5 years...

for me, ETSH hit and still hits WAY harder than CHz, like everything SJ onward, I listened to the boots relentlessly beforehand and liked those more than the CHz boots, but liked the record even more despite the fact that it was very much the same approach - tour the songs ~ a year give or take before releasing and have 3-4 new songs from the studio.

the interesting thing in either case was that the songs that were written in the studio and not toured with typically favorites of a lot of people (CHZ - moonjock, applesauce, pulleys, amanita; ETSH - a sender, little fang, catchy was contagious. also, they watered down a few of the toured songs in the studio on CHz, whereas i feel like ETSH does a better job at maintaining some of the live energy. except Duplex Trip which I think everyone agrees that they totally improved.

as far as Painting With goes, I feel like Golden Gal, Floridada to a certain extent, and The Burglars most harken back to the two sides of songwriting he has doing on those past two releases. GG resembles more of his pop-oriented leanings like the first half of mercury man, some of the bits in moonjock, a sender, catchy, little fang, roses on the window, end of amanita. Burglars is more synonymous to the jazzier, more expansive type of songwriting found in modern daisy, your card, send half of mercury man, applesauce (even though it's pop, it's all over the place), today's supernatural, that it wont grow.

Vertical is a weird one. to me it feels closest to summertime clothes in their canon than anything else. the beat reminds me of thom yorke/atoms for peace.

on delay and bagels, though. wtf!?!? they feel both like new directions completely for avey/ac. so great. i think it shows how strong his songwriting is when his songs are continuously noted as fan favorites on PW. maybe people just hate the vocal interplay on panda jams i think avey has reached some sweet new peaks in his songwriting career and im as exciting as ever to see where his/AC's career will continue to go

[bullseye]

i love the album version of duplex trip!
can't even remember what the live version sounded like

[bansheebeaten]

I love down there just as much as I love feels or any of my top AC albums. there's not a down there song I dislike. it's so good it hurts

[dio]

ya down there is super incredible. a lot of it is incredibly subtle to me in a rlly interesting way, especially the kind of minimalism of the middle part of the album. maybe in my top 3 ac related releases

heads hammock and 3 umbrellas are my favorites besides the singles but its all so good.

[speen]

Down There is pure driving-at-night bliss. That's the absolute greatest setting to listen to it in, specifically when driving through the woods. I have a great memory of being in my junior year of high school and (illegally) driving home quite late from a party, that involved a 30 minute drive through the woods. i never really "got" down there before then, just kind of thinking it was cool. Damn did it hit hard that night. It's a rather lonely album to me

also

Aziza wrote:

Your Card is my favorite ending of any AC-related record and it's really not even close between that and anything else.

Spoiler: show

alvin row exists

[dio]

^actually now that I think about it Your Card totally is one of my favorite closers on an AC related album up there with alvin row. prbly top 3 with lucky 1? tho benfica is beautiful as a closer also...

but holy shit Your Card miight b my favorite on the album w/ like ascender and daisy. the ending is so spooky and gives me chills

"and you can learn how to play the game, but you still got play your card(?)" ~ (amazing bass line)

[dio]

just listened to slasher house all the way through for first time in prbly over a year and it's sounding fantastic. such a visceral feeling album.. love the balance of actual kind dark/threatening undercurrents and the poppiness and laid-back feeling of a lot of the songs.

and i still think of the shoegazey sounding standard time duplex trip from the live shows, but this version has grown on me a lot and is really beautiful... love the flute-y synths in the chorus and that great bridge..

[popparen]

this and down there are the most underrated AC related releases.

[roopn]

I think what's hoding me back from really enjoying etsh is that I can't escape hearing it just as really... goofy? The instrumentation is too heavy to be like a mac demarco kind of goofy, but too light (imo) to push through into the serious core of the songs that I know is there. I think they just slightly missed the mark for the tone of these tracks

[FAF]

down there might be the best AC-related release. maybe.

[thebackdrifter]

Sorry for bumping this thread(not really) but since the new SF demo came out I felt compelled to revisit the pitchfork performance and then immediately had to listen to the album again. One thing that I love about Slasher Flicks live is that I can actually hear Angel's vocal lines live and its a shame she isn't louder/present in the mix on the album. Amazing songs from this era and I feel like its overall really uplifting and a positive record despite the name of slasher flicks and being inspired by horror movies.



[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ne8C2Cw2VY&list=PLl6NKcHJ24WzEKX8QJo7Cbj0jaOgTAD-U[/youtube]

[Texas Trill]

Angel is one of the best singers out there. Not only can she lead a song with a ton of power, but she is a genius when it comes to adding seamless backing vocals to a track. Seeing her singing live as a solo act, w/ Slasher Flicks, or w/ Dirty Projectors, is nothing short of enchanting. I hope she gets more recognition for her upcoming album

[crikit]

demonclusters wrote:

Down There is pure driving-at-night bliss. That's the absolute greatest setting to listen to it in, specifically when driving through the woods. I have a great memory of being in my junior year of high school and (illegally) driving home quite late from a party, that involved a 30 minute drive through the woods. i never really "got" down there before then, just kind of thinking it was cool. Damn did it hit hard that night. It's a rather lonely album to me

totally agree. it hit me when i was in first year of college, walking to my apt thru the city alone one night after being in a studio until like 3am to finish a project. i love avey's music.

[crikit]

also after the AC show next week, it seems like the band has a 2.5 month break til their next tour dates (eastern canada finally lol).

maybe avey will have time to drop a track. or maybe it would make more sense to wait til June after AC wraps on PW, (only an assumption of mine that they would be), PW was released 1 year ago this Sunday!

[Texas Trill]

That Denmark solo show does take place in less than a month, so hopefully a video or recording surfaces soon after. https://billetto.dk/da/events/avey-tare-vs-abby-portner

[thebackdrifter]

Reviving this old thread just to say I got a new set of headphones and decided to test them out by listening to the slasher flicks LP and man this record "slays" .

Blind Babe, Catchy, It wont grow, Roses and Colores are all such bangers. The under layer vocals pop in these new headphones and is super trippy. It was almost like hearing the album in a whole new way.

[bansheebeaten]

word, i still love this album!