Collected Animals • "I'm not contrarian but..."

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Post **Posted:** Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:51 pm

I know this is the unpopular opinions thread, but I'm really sick of hearing people say that Panda Bear has been "phoning it in" or "only in it for the money". Just because you don't like his recent material doesn't mean that he hasn't been putting the same level of effort into it as he did in the past, especially because a lot of people (including myself) love his new songs just as much or more than anything else he's done. I think it's really rude to discredit his art as lazy or uninspired just because you don't happen to like the direction he's taken.

Post **Posted:** Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:23 pm

"noah is one of the most determined and focused people I have ever met. since we were kids. it;s really inspiring. if there is a challenge that he puts his mind to... he will meet that challenge. sports. music. family life. it's incredible."

-deakin
https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/com ... eakin_ama/

doesn't sound like a lazy or uninspired guy to me.

Post **Posted:** Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:28 pm

lol it that a thing tho? i dont think ive heard ppl say panda's lazy or uninspired... dude hustles and follows his bliss~

Post **Posted:** Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:27 pm

Diomedes wrote:

lol it that a thing tho? i dont think ive heard ppl say panda's lazy or uninspired... dude hustles and follows his bliss~

he posted that in reply to someone saying panda is lazy/doesn't care about making music anymore on the previous page

Post **Posted:** Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:15 pm

'PANDAS JUST DOING IT FOR THE MONEY'

okay that's enough CA for today

Post **Posted:** Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:07 pm

Hey guys welcome to the Shit on Animal Collective thread, enjoy yourselves

Post **Posted:** Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:23 pm

thespectrum wrote:

'PANDAS JUST DOING IT FOR THE MONEY'

okay that's enough CA for today

Post **Posted:** Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:36 am

sorry guys im drunk. i drink a lot.
this thread makes me laugh so much though.

tbh i love every single thing about animal collective . and i love all of you guys too.. its such a surprise for me to see what people dislike.... its silly.. heres the trump card.. you already like them dude... if you cant keep up.. maybe youre the one stuck in the hcti, spirit, campfire, danse ages....

they didnt really know how to make music back then dude in a way...in those spirit days... it was experimental...,those werent MPP experienced albums obviously.. they grew up as experimenters... and did whatever the fuck they wanted... "NOISE CORE" which is what people labeled them as... back then.. BUT THEN... they listened to the beatles as well...and to know how pop music works... and eventually have albums that get a 9.4 (for strawberry).. a 9.6 (for merriweather) on p4k...

and then what did they do after that? go back to the experimentation stage... their bread and butter... and all of a sudden the fans hate them like p4k? ,,, centipede,,, pw,,,,,are you guys serious???
BUT OH NO... this experimentation sucks now????. everyone was on board for merriweather but they hate centipede lolololol... but people love danse manatee..
it drive me crazy because it feels like people dont really connect with the artist then.
its an unfair judgement of new school ideas...
man then you are not following the story well.
painting with is basically the perfect album for that band to create.
just sit down and listen to spirit and realize that same band made painting with,
THATS FUCKING BEAUTIFUL

Post **Posted:** Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:39 am

Nice post. Reminds me.....

Bagels in Kiev isn't a very good song.

Post **Posted:** Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:47 am

Painting With is their most experimental album to date.

Post **Posted:** Sat Apr 23, 2016 6:04 am

i have seen AC live 9 times and panda always blows me away with his energy. last i saw them in seattle i had an emotional movement when i noticed how much he gives it at the end of the Burglars. so much heart

here are my contributions to this thread. see if anyone can relate
in my opinion:

- the crazy live versions of chores were so awesome compared to the SJ version
- i love the way avey used to sing on My Girls and wonder why he changed it
- they could have done a better recording of Crimson cause that song is amazing
- the only uninspired moments i feel on PW is the Vertical chorus, and it's frustrating because that song has the best verses
- their music videos are pretty whatever
- songs i don't get: winter wonderland, turn into something, moonjock, butcher baker candlestick maker, floridada

Post **Posted:** Sat Apr 23, 2016 6:30 am

godzillalotus wrote:

Nice post. Reminds me.....

Bagels in Kiev isn't a very good song.

Bagels is good, but compared to the rest of PW it's kinda dull

Post **Posted:** Sat Apr 23, 2016 6:32 am

myersbeard wrote:

- songs i don't get: winter wonderland, turn into something, moonjock, butcher baker candlestick maker, floridada

Besides Floridada, those are legitimately among my favourites on each of their albums

Post **Posted:** Sat Apr 23, 2016 6:53 am

myersbeard wrote:

- i love the way avey used to sing on My Girls and wonder why he changed it

Yeah, the early live vocal which went way low, sounded like that 'soul' sound he mentioned wrt Laughing Hieroglyphic. I really loved that. So much emotion to it. Likewise, Noah's high harmonies on My Girls. On record, it's very mellow and all mid range. Great, but different, and I preferred the earlier renditions.

Post **Posted:** Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:52 am

IMO the only early version I prefer is Taste Place.

Post **Posted:** Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:54 am

roopn wrote:

myersbeard wrote:
- songs i don't get: winter wonderland, turn into something, moonjock, butcher baker candlestick maker, floridada

Besides Floridada, those are legitimately among my favourites on each of their albums

Butcher... is such a boring fucking song. It's the only panda song I can barely listen to.

Post **Posted:** Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:16 am

myersbeard wrote:

- the crazy live versions of chores were so awesome compared to the SJ version
- i love the way avey used to sing on My Girls and wonder why he changed it
- they could have done a better recording of Crimson cause that song is amazing
- the only uninspired moments i feel on PW is the Vertical chorus, and it's frustrating because that song has the best verses
- their music videos are pretty whatever
- songs i don't get: winter wonderland, turn into something, moonjock, butcher baker candlestick maker, floridada

I'm not contrarian but... these are just "things I don't like about Animal Collective", I'm not sure you understand the point of the thread?

like, none of these are especially contrarian/unpopular views

Post **Posted:** Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:37 pm

Hash wrote:

myersbeard wrote:
- the crazy live versions of chores were so awesome compared to the SJ version
- i love the way avey used to sing on My Girls and wonder why he changed it
- they could have done a better recording of Crimson cause that song is amazing
- the only uninspired moments i feel on PW is the Vertical chorus, and it's frustrating because that song has the best verses
- their music videos are pretty whatever
- songs i don't get: winter wonderland, turn into something, moonjock, butcher baker candlestick maker, floridada

I'm not contrarian but... these are just "things I don't like about Animal Collective", I'm not sure you understand the point of the thread?

like, none of these are especially contrarian/unpopular views

k

Post **Posted:** Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:19 pm

Wow ... good stuff here ...

I cant believe ive been on this thread for like 30 minutes ...

Anyway yes the Animal Collective will always be the greatest ...

And that is mine and most of our popular opinion ...

AC changed my life and lots of yalls too ...

Best band ever ...

Post **Posted:** Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:33 pm

my reaction to this thread.

Spoiler: show

Post **Posted:** Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:49 pm

Post **Posted:** Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:08 pm

Someone get CampfireBeast in here

Post **Posted:** Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:16 pm

-Well first off Panda Bear is the only one who's name of an animal. So what gives.
-Can't call a radio station CENTIPEDE FM guys. Toooo many letters.
-Avery Tare should sing less, in fact he shouldn't sing at all. He should just honk like Skeeter from doug, honk honk. If they sample enough honks he won't have to go on tour ever again.
-I dont even have a brother so who should I sport
-My gf dumped me last winter so winter is actually the time for hate, not love, easy mistake to make as I did when I ask her out last Valentines day. Valentines day should be moved to the summer or something maybe to my birthday
-It's actually less safe in the dark more crimes happen in the dark.
-Actually my favorite color is blue not whatever the fuck color that is
-Should have named Strawberry Jam NBA Jam cause strawberries are fuckin gross and Panda Bear "got game," basketball game that is. Should of called it How Panda Bear Beat Shaq and dunked the other three losers straight into the trash
-Why didn't they make a sequel to Air Bud starring an actual panda bear voiced by Noah Lennox. Instead of some avantguard horse shit.
-I know why they called it oddsac by the way, but trust me you don't want to know. Suffice to say you don't want to get dunked on by Panda Bear. Especially if you have testicels

Post **Posted:** Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:32 pm

^ hilarity

Post **Posted:** Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:44 pm

Post **Posted:** Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:12 am

thread saving post

Post **Posted:** Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:16 am

Great job

Post **Posted:** Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:07 pm

I think Alvin Row is only okay.

Post **Posted:** Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:07 pm

the original version by the chipmunks is better cause it's autobiographical

Post **Posted:** Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:59 pm

haha

that's something though, good job Treckasec

Post **Posted:** Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:37 am

drbsl wrote:

Painting With is their most experimental album to date.

Treckasec wrote:

I think Alvin Row is only okay.

Post **Posted:** Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:44 am

deadwall wrote:

ok here's my bad dreams about the band....not all how i feel all the time....i dont wanna sound.....but yea....these are mine, sorry

- CHz and Painting With I have to try to listen to
- Geo should fuck off during interviews n let others talk
- Painting with is one album too many of this kind of material
- They need to bring back acoustic guitars and wow us again
- They could break up any day now
- If they break up Panda may just go away forever
- Deakin's album's cool, but he's slacking per band contribution
- A new album without Geo would be chill AF
- A new album without Avey would be chill AF
- They need to bump their game up to classic rock status
- ....like, able to play any of their old songs but also be exciting!
- They wont do this, who are we kidding?
- Panda's lack of vocals during CHz and PW is dissapointing
- Pulhair Rubeye is hella underrated
- Wide Awake is worst song on CHz and is not Peak DEak
- The Sung Tongs live shows were the high point of the band
- Panda's done having fun, Avey is worried about him
- PBVGR style visuals should have carried into PW live sets
- Their ATP Event had better acts than their Camping weekend

and lastly, the worst thought i have about the band...

- PANDA'S JUST DOING IT FOR THE MONEY

....there i said it

lemme clarify...

I love them absolutely, this is just the airing our bullshit feelings thread...as far as Panda only being in it for the money....i was a being a dick about it, and of course hes not ONLY in it for the money...and I love his recent material, BUT I feel like he'd rather chill n not be a band bro, in his heart, and a fear i have is he's doing the band for a last few rounds...just feel like Avey's more inspired....

basically, "i hate fathers and I never wanted to be one"

Post **Posted:** Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:48 am

pbvsgr demoes are far and away the most interesting thing to come from the band in years... and i mean years... like 2007 at least

Post **Posted:** Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:09 am

On another note I think panda bear's self titled is his best solo album

Post **Posted:** Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:07 pm

Stanshant wrote:

scrambledgreggs wrote:
Monkey Riches is the worst song on CHz

Yeah, I'll have that. The worst thing they've ever done, purely because of that loop. Sounds like something I did on the Nintendo DS Korg synth in three minutes, passing the time while I'm having a fairly brisk shite.

agree with this. it's my least favorite AC song, yet when we saw them play it, i was jumping around and loving it. it REALLY didn't translate to the studio i think.

jfw7 wrote:

FBK (especially after its midpoint) represents the start of the (worse to me) C Hz era rather than the end of MPP

interesting. can't say i disagree.

Hellomark wrote:

on a highway is probably one of my least fav ac songs.

agreed

Post **Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:14 am

you're all only in it for the money, i'm outta here man

Post **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:58 am

tomboy is the best one by a lot

dud · Post **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:04 am

William H. Macy wrote:

tomboy is the best one by a lot

Post **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:04 am

Mr Fingers wrote:

PP and MPP have aged like milk left in the sun.

don't really agree about pp but I see what you mean about MPP, it can really sound "2009"

I think of all their releases Water Curses has aged the worst.

Post **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:24 am

roopn wrote:

Mr Fingers wrote:
PP and MPP have aged like milk left in the sun.

don't really agree about pp but I see what you mean about MPP, it can really sound "2009"

I think of all their releases Water Curses has aged the worst.

man, i just don't hear this at all. these releases sound vibrant and vital as ever to my ears.