I definitely appreciate certain tracks more than I used to, and certain tracks less than I used to. "Taste" went from being one of my favs to one I tend to skip now (though I attribute that partially to playing it too much). On the other hand, "No More Running" has basically gone from "the boring one" to "that really soft, beautiful one that gives the album some much-needed breathing room for its big finale". And "Guys Eyes" is probably the one I like listening to most nowadays, mostly because of that middle section with the climbing synth and the Noah's hypnotic vocal loops.
I know back when I first listened to it, I thought "My Girls" was unlistenable. I thought it was just overly repetitious noise and it kind of pissed me off. I was basically just like these old people reacting to it. (Skip to 2:23)
The funny part of this, of course, is that Merriweather Post Pavilion is arguably their most accessible, poppiest record (albeit with lots of reverb and layering that can be off-putting at first).
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:48 am
by utensilvirus
I was in college at the time. Back then, most of my ac-friends went to a different school than me. I was fortunate to have a handful of friends that introduced me during the ST era and I got to see ac live during Feels. Anyway, I remember going out to the lot to get high in my car alone jamming this in the cold. College was pretty isolating for me for some time, but connection to music always made tough times (still does) bearable. I will admit, it took me some time to get into MPP for some reason. I also distinctly remember when FBK and Water Curses came out. I was more instantly hyped on those songs. When MPP clicked, it was a weird and euphoric moment for me. Though I wasn't officially on the forum, I creeped it often. I also recall frequently listening to Bradford Cox's micromixes on his blog and being really hyped on ones the ac dudes were involved in.
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:43 am
by meys
salvaged these from an archived copy of myanimalhome.net...
^whoa this is awesome! Must be an early demo or rehearsal or something? Really trippy
Also thanks for those vids Meysell
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:00 pm
by jfw7
my instinct is that this is a recent remix from early recordings? I have trouble believing the song ever sounded like this in 2007
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:53 pm
by scrambledgreggs
so cool, that sounds like it could fit right in on Tangerine Reef
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:09 pm
by MrAirplane
he called it "House (HBDMPP Edit)". safe to assume that means happy birthday merriweather so definitely sounds like he recently made it
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:13 pm
by jetski
idk I could see them making something like that back then, but good point that it could be a new edit. Geo usually posts a tracklist on instagram at some point after the show airs so maybe he'll shed some more light on it then
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:19 pm
by MrAirplane
"Little nod to the MPP 10th bday with a recent snowy edit of the original My Girls demo"
lol there it is. That's such a sweet edit, really cool he played it. I gotta check out his radio shows more often
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:31 pm
by terrestrialjane
good mix , thanks g
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:50 pm
by Stanshant
Would really really love to hear the original demo. That was the song which basically turned me into such a total Stan. My Girls could never compete after the hours and hours of joy and laughter and tears I got from House. As much as I have banged on about the looser live versions of Brother Sport and Summertime Clothes and stuff, it was really the feeling I got from House which I always longed for and which they never even attempted to recreate on MPP.
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:42 pm
by BenPup
i wonder if original demo used the piano sample
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:09 pm
by Tesla
Does anybody have a link to "House"? I'm trying to find it but can't.
(Not the new edit, the version Stan is talking about).
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:13 pm
by scrambledgreggs
check out the live boots circa 2007 - House has since been re-tagged as My Girls
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:24 pm
by paralleoneirdwell
Tesla wrote:
Does anybody have a link to "House"? I'm trying to find it but can't.
(Not the new edit, the version Stan is talking about).
This is a soundboard version from the 9:30 club in 2007!! as broadcast on the radio, it is an interesting mix, the vocals are audible but also not loud, whereas many of the samples are quite loud and clear with exceptional stereo range!!
That's the one where the audio dips during Peacebone isn't it? Do not see myself going back to that one.
Love this recording though!
2007-05-14
Wexner Center, Columbus, OH, USA
1. Doggy
2. Hey Light
3. Who Could Win a Rabbit
4. In the Flowers
5. Guys Eyes
6. Taste
7. My Girls
8. Summertime Clothes
9. Graze, Part 1
10. Graze, Part 2
11. Daily Routine
12. Also Frightened
13. Brother Sport
14. Loch Raven
15. We Tigers
16. Leaf House http://www.mediafire.com/?jnikombmhyi
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:50 am
by svilla
Fovrodi wrote:
That's the one where the audio dips during Peacebone isn't it? Do not see myself going back to that one.
Love this recording though!
2007-05-14
Wexner Center, Columbus, OH, USA
1. Doggy
2. Hey Light
3. Who Could Win a Rabbit
4. In the Flowers
5. Guys Eyes
6. Taste
7. My Girls
8. Summertime Clothes
9. Graze, Part 1
10. Graze, Part 2
11. Daily Routine
12. Also Frightened
13. Brother Sport
14. Loch Raven
15. We Tigers
16. Leaf House http://www.mediafire.com/?jnikombmhyi
This was the first MPP show. I remember someone sharing his (very good) recording of House shortly after, but wanting trades for the full show. It never popped up, I think.
This one song was all we had, until Austin and Charlottesville came two weeks later.
And then this full recording (Yoko Bono's?) was shared years and years later.
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:48 am
by Stanshant
Fovrodi wrote:
That's the one where the audio dips during Peacebone isn't it? Do not see myself going back to that one.
Love this recording though!
2007-05-14
Wexner Center, Columbus, OH, USA
1. Doggy
2. Hey Light
3. Who Could Win a Rabbit
4. In the Flowers
5. Guys Eyes
6. Taste
7. My Girls
8. Summertime Clothes
9. Graze, Part 1
10. Graze, Part 2
11. Daily Routine
12. Also Frightened
13. Brother Sport
14. Loch Raven
15. We Tigers
16. Leaf House http://www.mediafire.com/?jnikombmhyi
Imagine being there and wondering what they would sound like after Strawberry Jam and they start with that version of Doggy and you'd be a bit gobsmacked and then a great version of Hey Light and then what the hell is this hahaha Who Could Win A Rabbit! Wow!
And then it all drops back to nothing and you think hmm this is a new one...familiar though...sounds quite Feelsy...sometimes I guess I have to miss my wife...
ORGASM OVERLOAD
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:17 pm
by denjanenna
Stanshant wrote:
Imagine being there and wondering what they would sound like after Strawberry Jam and they start with that version of Doggy and you'd be a bit gobsmacked and then a great version of Hey Light and then what the hell is this hahaha Who Could Win A Rabbit! Wow!
And then it all drops back to nothing and you think hmm this is a new one...familiar though...sounds quite Feelsy...sometimes I guess I have to miss my wife...
ORGASM OVERLOAD
I remember finding out Deaks wasn't going to be touring with them AFTER I bought the tix to the charlottesville show (for that first MPP tour) and being super bummed about it...I deliberately avoided listening to the first few shows of that tour, but I knew it was a new set of jams that people were raving about (especially that monkey paw lol)...one thing I miss about those shows is the twinkly house with the diff melody that avey sang..
but GODDAMN....my simple mind was already blown to bits halfway through guys eyes...
further mind blowing occurred at 930 club 4 months later when I first heard nomorerunnin
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:18 pm
by jfw7
svilla wrote:
Fovrodi wrote:
Love this recording though!
2007-05-14
Wexner Center, Columbus, OH, USA
Actually, setlist here is slightly different
thanks! for some reason i hadn't cleaned up this file and hosted it on my own account. fixing it now
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:42 pm
by jfw7
okay, i sort of roll my eyes at posts about old Taste but it really was a cool song back then
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:44 pm
by Stanshant
The best bit about Old Taste is Dave's verse vocals, a little more urgency there, more yearning than baked. He's providing the emotional heft and Noah is spiralling off in his own way, lifting it elsewhere when Dave is already lifting you in one direction. It's dizzying. The clattering drums and slowed down tempo mean that Studio Taste is worse by a long way. The component parts are laid too bare. The chiptuney sine wave melody is also worse than the original watery synth sound. It's one for the courts to decide, probably. Thank God they recorded the original version for the Beeb. Thanks, Animal Collective.
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:01 am
by Tap
shopping cart taste is best taste tho
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:31 am
by rohcti
This might be sacrilege but I'm partial to the Painting With era taste
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:21 am
by roopn
PW taste is dope except it's too sloow
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:29 pm
by Tropic
Wasn't Hz Taste sorta dubby?
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:37 pm
by Stanshant
Yeah. If Lablakely Dress is the best ever reworked and most varied song they've performed, Taste is the worst. Just want to get things straight for the database.
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:38 pm
by jetski
Aziza wrote:
Taste is one of my favorite songs in general and I think I will always be partial to the studio version, though the shopping cart version is a very close second. that updated one they did on the Hz tour with the skittering hi-hats was a fun surprise too (is that the same as the PW-era one people have mentioned? they didn't play that when I saw them then.)
The PW era one is similar but it's extra extra slow. It's like 50% the tempo of the studio version.
Hz tour Taste is one of my fav reworks of theirs for sure, it's like the trap version lol. Cans I don't remember if it was particular dubby sounding but been a while since I listened
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:50 am
by destiny
PW Taste is amazing, the revamped driving percussive noise is so fire. speed it up!
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:59 am
by Tesla
Despite some of the usual reliance on thesaurus-abusing purple prose and that is typical of a Pitchfork article, as well as some questionable moments where the writer turns 2009 into a theology, this is a pretty good write-up of the historical relevance of the album and what it meant for the band (as well as the indie music scene generally).
Edit: lol I had never seen "Shopping Cart Taste" before. That's really neat. Also, haven't listened to their Painting With rendition of it, but I should; I was relistening to that album recently and enjoying it more than I previously had, so that's good. "Taste" has always been an important song to me, despite me growing less fond of it after listening to it what must be well over a hundred times by now. As I've gotten older and started to reflect more on what consumption-as-identity entails (especially as a socialist), it's made me even more appreciative of how important culture and art is beyond simple enjoyment of it. Songs like "Taste" ask such a simple question, but it's groundbreaking and important in its simplicity, and that sort of critical engagement with the things we consume is part of what forms our identities.
Like, to put it simply: It isn't what we consume that shapes us, it's how we react to it. And that's sometimes why people fight so strongly about songs or movies or books that we love or hate. That shit matters to us, and it should.
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:40 am
by destiny
i wrote a review i wanted to share about mpp!! it talks about the songs themselves and their impact on the wooorld!! plz read and tell me what u think! it is long thooo... :3 i posted it on rym!
Notes.
1. Remember when every review was written like this? What a nightmare.
2. Speaking of reviews, every reflection on Merriwether's 10th tries to tie some bullshit political narrative like the album being a "celebration" for the beginning of the Obama years when the album was as apolitical as could be. Average write-ups about Merriwether's decade in our ears probably start with a substanceless, ridiculously stupid sentence like "It was 2009. We were eight years past 9/11, in a seemingly new and broken world. The most unlikely heroes - in this case, a collection of synthed out freaks and weirdos (maybe not synth'd out since music publications never reference anything related to music in any animal collective review) put together a much needed plea for sanity as the world went to hell in a handbasket."
3. Before i begin the ac SUCKfest and if im still making straw(berry)men i can basically write every single review for any animal collective on this site: "its not that good!" or "its so tribal/playful/colorful!!!"
4. OK RLLY ONE MORE THING: Stop calling them AnCo!!!! A*C* was an abbreviation created to mock ac by hipster runoff and other assorted no job blogging jack offs in TWO DOUBLE O NINE and the fact taht it caught on by meme loving dufuses is testament to the flawed public perception of animal collective's music and their mission statement!!! this has been an iko psa :3
this album is the greatest album ever and your an idiot if you dont like it. ok not off to the greatest start...this album is SOOO GOOD!!! in 2007 ever making depression anxiety strawberry jammeroonies The AnCo were touring in support of THE Jam of a lifetime of course playing completely new songs...but wait...this time they were playing oldies too! To throw in something for some oldheads since in 07 they been doing it for a while they played CLASSICS. Like when ppl not familiar with ac see ac they get bummed out they werent playing greatest hits...but these sets were greatest hits. In 2009 they were LITERALLY playing greatest hits sets! Picture it: u in a club, seeing the animal collection, and they open up with DOGGY, into HEY LIGHT, into WHO COULD WIN A fucking RABBIT? Give me a fucking break. And then, since people in the audience probably knew who ac were and expected them to play new shtuff, they break the ice on the then called "Fam Jams" with In the Flowerz...and...
They made this album basically sending eachother audio stems off of dropbox...and knowing the amount of random shit they put in their songs that could mean mr noah lennocks was getting very angry when his sample of the girl falling in willy wonka the chocolate factory wasnt sending to mr avey tare becuz of shit internet...WHAT AN IMAGE!!!
when they played these bitches, they were SPARSE. something like "house" had its piano arpeggio maximalized in studio to become "MY GIRLS", which is a song you mightve heard about. song for aerial stopped being sunflower by the beach boys and started being GUYS EYES, a pulsating, piano driven romp that isnt about touching yourself (but most ppl think it is...you SICKOS). the dancer stopped resonating with cicadas and crickets in the climax, and got fuckin loud, all starting with davey tare saying one of his post personal lines...well ever
"i guess sometimes i just miss my wife"
which, in studio, is turned into the almost transcendentalist idea of "if i could just leave my body for a night" and in that explosion of sound all our homie sings about is dancing wit someone he loves. ending with "to hold you in time" basically puts a bow on like..some of my favorite ac lyrics ever. ever!!!
so obviously from live to studio producer ben allen said fugg this silent shit yall gotta get loud and mixed the bass and the vocals high, which is something ac never really did. the rhythm in all ac albums are pretty nuts, but for inexplicable reason in studio ac likes to hide it away so to hear it in the forefront of merriwether is pretty amazing. but still, the songs stay basically the same as their "fam jam" forms aside from everything getting louder and Taste becoming a different song. look up taste bbc (which looks HORRID written down but trust me its the radio station u pervert ;3) to hear what tastey place sounds like...and theyre are many arguments over which is the superior version, which is all subjective which begs the question, do you appreciate the subtleties of taste, bud? :3
they said fuck the loud stupid electric guitars and moved to synthesizers with a focus on arpeggiated chords for this group of songs, with songs like my girls, daily routine, taste, and in the flowers (though this being acoustic guitar) really going do do DO DO do do on C chords and clean no arpeg songs like guys eyes, bluish, and lion in a coma creating dense electronic atmospheres with all the wacky sounds ac puts in their projects. atop the basic compositions are about 300 vocal overdubs and assorted sounds geologist put of water dripping and giraffe sounds, with a focus on rhythmic repetition which has been a factor in EVERY animal collective song composition.
the themes of these songs are ALL about family (hence fam jams), love, and generally being thankful for the environment and people around you. i would bargain the whole damn THESIS of this album is, in fact, "its sick to be grateful" because through all the love songs, when avey tare sings "i want you walk around with you" it becomes apparent every loving line said in this damn thing can almost be quantified as being lovingly appreciative of someone's presence. even in the darker songs like also frightened, where panda bair sings about his fear for his children and the anxieties that come from being a parent it all comes from a place of love and a feeling of respect towards his children and wife. in daily routine, panda bear sings about his daily routine of bringing his child to school and in taste, avey sings about how reactions to our surroundings shape us and understanding the subtleties and cruelties of human subjectivity. i promise guys eyes is not about touching urself.
IKO FUN FACT TIMEE: DID U KNO, in 2007 perfomances of Daily ROutine in a transition to another song (cant remember exactly) a sample from the same children's audio book that the infamous "MY SINGING VOICE IS GONE" sample at the end of Alvin Row is used? as the song shimmers down, we hear "mr. bear, can you help me find my singing voice?" crazy shittt huh!additionally, the tree forg sample used in live versions of "the dancer" is the same treefrog sample used in SPONGE LUKE, which is a feels era song that sadly was only played once...one of my favorite feels era tunes evar btw.
there is nothing more that animal collective love doing than putting fucking water noises in their music. and u kno wat? it works so well. and they never did stop - in 2018, they brought back BEES, with a trance beat, and looped a sample of homer simpson going "the king of nowhere." unfortunately, it works and its a fuckin bop!!!
the album maintains a pretty constant energy, with it dipping with daily routine's panda approved structure of poppy first half, blissed out second half then continuing a middle-tempo introspective arc of tracks 6-9, which then comes into maybe my favorite song on this album...no more runnin. i fucking love this song man. this helped me so much when i was faced with ALL problems in life, and i'm sure it will just continue to help. its the song i played on loop when i had my first ever crush on a boy, which was fucked up espesh when u never confronted those feelings before lol. at every anxiety i faced and every fugged up trauma filled time this song would fill me with hope! so thats my personal connection, its placed perfectly as the penultimate track, calming us down before that song. when they sing the title, and the chord progression repeats (with the frogs ribbiting :3) it centers me and its sick that 4 minute fucking bell noise fest has that amount of profound effect at all.
this album is one to boogie to of course. sportcha brother has filled more venues with weird white person dancing than a radiohead and edm concert combined. how? i have no fucking clue. the animal collective as many publications would call them were already becomign indie darlings but this album just fucking ultra propulsed themselves into the main picture, where the experimental electronic plunderphonics jam multi-member collective became a psychedelic art pop three piece ensemble aka brooklyn beach boys. animal collective's music is not outwardly accessible. this does not have a good or bad connotation. it is just fact that they play and record their music in a way which encourages and required more than one listen, their music grows as you listen to it to see exactly wtf is happening. they decide on an idea and flesh out an idea with their core musical stylings of being jamming on a song and giving a song a full intro, middle, and ending which can bring their songs to 10 to 15 minutes sometimes. this time, they did a pop record after the dark psych rock styling of the jam. when my girls and summertime clothes become widely played music in shitty coffee shops around the world and people looked up animal collective its a bless they had did u see the words and fireworks to mask their abrasive stuffs which is like every album. this lead to the narrative on animal collective to them being a super psychod out beach boys when in reality sun city girls was more of an influence to their style and playing of music. to have a band like animal collec in the limelight like that is just nutty to me! looking with all this context, it makes sense that centipede hz was as divisively received by new fans and the media when the narrative had already been written.
but whatevs it blew up which makes sense because this is fucking amazing music and it introduced so many people to the art. this album turned 10 and it still holds up. its influence is seen everywhere, even subconsciously written into beyonce songs. their music has helped me out and i am eternally grateful, and its just sick being grateful! ^_^
5. ur dum lol :3
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:22 am
by Tesla
Pretty good write-up. Very informative. I'm particularly guilty of Point 4, and have knocked it off.
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:45 pm
by terrestrialjane
Should wrote hell in a bucket
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:36 am
by jetski
ITS BEEN 10 YEARS MAN LET IT GO
JUST ACCEPT THAT BEN ALLEN WON
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:39 pm
by Calamity Pete
P4k saying MPP didn't redefine indie feels like revisionist history lol.... like what about Chillwave? All the reverb soaked summer songs that came out the next couple years? idk maybe I'm just overestimating the Animal Boys but I feel like it had a huge influence on both indie and mainstream music...... or maybe it was all coincidence ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re: MPP IS 10 TODAY
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:43 pm
by jetski
They mentioned chillwave and said that Person pitch seemed to be more of a blueprint for that rather than MPP which seems accurate to me
I have no idea if MPP was actually widely influential or what but I feel like it was a lot of people's gateway into experimental music, just based off of people I've talked to. It definitely served as one for me. So even if people didn't try to imitate the specific style of the music, maybe it still impacted them in other ways