madameghostly wrote:
Sung Tongs: i'll be honest, i used to think this album was just... alright. i liked Leaf House cause it was the first song, i liked Who Could Win a Rabbit cause it was the single, i liked Winters Love cause it was in that one simpsons episode (that's a lie, i liked it before i watched that one simpsons episode, but it probably helped some), i liked Kids on Holiday cause it was a bop... and that was about it
nine words: Animal Collective perform Sung Tongs at Pitchfork's 21st Anniversary. in something that might become a bit of a recurring theme going forward, i never really appreciated this album until i heard it live, and when i discovered that wonderful youtube video in mid-2018, oh boy, you bet i appreciated it
from the primal, manic energy of Leaf House, Who Could Win a Rabbit, and We Tigers, to the slow burn ambience of The Softest Voice and Visiting Friends, to everything in-between, there's a lot to love on Sung Tongs, and while i feel like it loses a bit of energy near the end (not to say i'm on #TeamWhadditIDoneIsAnAffrontToGod), i have no qualms about calling this one of their best
That performance really is amazing. I wonder how knowing their full discography effects how someone gets into this album. For me, I first listened in 2004 so the thrill of the new was massive. I had never heard anything like it. Also, 2nd half is massively underrated. Listen to Mouth and Good Lovin is isolation to unlock their singular awesomeness.
madameghostly wrote:
Prospect Hummer: hey, a new EP from Campfire Songs! i love this band!
okay, seriously though, time for a little more honesty - apart from the title track (see above), i never really paid this EP much mind, which, as has been proven many times in this thread and will probably be proven many more times in the future, was a mistake on my part. Vashti Bunyan adds so much to the vocal songs, which certainly weren't thin on the ground to begin with, and Baleen Sample is a very nice instrumental as well. all in all, a very good companion piece to Sung Tongs
i don't know if i really wanna call this a bonus because it's one song but
Baby Day: pretty good. i don't think i've heard enough live versions to determine if this is worse or better than those, but i think they did a pretty good job translating it to the studio
Prospect must not be forgotten! Baby Day is a rad little tune but I think he definitely has a lot more energy live.
dio wrote:
I will never listen to Feels, it's one of my least favorite in terms of conceptually the idea of listening to it front to back. Too saccharine. I would need 2 be in a whole other place in my life emotionally to do that.
Wow

I think you might be the first person I have ever encountered who speaks about Feels this way. Certainly the first fan. Feels is incredibly special to me. I don't see it as saccharine at all. That implies that it is overly sentimental. I think of it as dizzying and carnal. Full of love and warmth but never sickly sweet or cheesy. Anyway, I'll rant about Feels in a bit. Totally shocked at this take though.
dio wrote:
Anyway, Tongs I've always listened to thru out the years... and basically all their albums did this for their first 10 years, but who would have seen Tongs coming after Indian. Or even after Campfire honestly?
The leap from Ark to this is probably their most mind blowing.
dio wrote:
Up until MPP they're just constantly rounding out what an AC track could even sound like, picking all these different colors and vibes... Melodically maybe there's a bit of the first few albums in Sung Tongs and there's that whole *tribal* energy that showed up on Ark and sorta Danse (but interestingly not Spirit at all really) and there's the acoustics of Campfire of course, but up til then the Beach Boys vibes weren't really there at all. And the peppiness of Spirit's melodies that had kinda been eroded for 3 albums re-emerges brighter and poppier than ever.
I always find this journey so fascinating. Avey could clearly write a pop melody but went on this crazy path between Spirit and Sung Tongs.
dio wrote:
I think I kinda wish Feels had a different cover and was a little gnarlier. or the back cover was the front. I think I need to listen to those first Feels boots cuz I kinda wonder what it'd sound like with even a drop of Ark vibes added back in
This could definitely help you get into the album more. I personally just love the variety. The fact that the same band who makes me want to become a wild animal and live in the forest (Ark) also makes me want to cuddle my wife on the couch (Feels) is just awesome.
captainlunatic wrote:
yeah, if i had one complaint about the album it's that it could've been a little bit more experimental. i actually remember when it first came out i had the same thought... like, "damn, this sounds so tame compared to sung tongs" and especially compared to ark. but over time i've really come to appreciate the sequencing and the almost wall-of-sound production style (which they dropped for sj but brought it back with mpp). and the songs themselves are of course masterpieces. so many all-time classics on that one... grass, purple bottle, banshee beat. those three alone are almost too good to be on the same album together
I guess just because its lush and beautiful doesn't mean its not experimental. One of the things that is so wonderous about the album it manages to be experimental without sounding harsh or 'difficult'. Pretty rare to get an album that is so original yet still so comforting and inviting.
bullseye wrote:
Sung tongs:
Probably my favorite AC record in terms of production. Everything sounds full, crunchy, warm and natural, even with some sounds being pretty out there and weird. It's one of the best examples of merging electronic and acoustic sounds IMHO.
Totally agree! Full, crunchy, warm, natural. Perfect descriptors.
bullseye wrote:
I initially thought that the album is rather front heavy with the good songs, but after repeated listens the second half also starts to unfold. Good lovin outside is probably my favorite. This and mouth water are just baffling from a rhythmic perspective, I don't even know how to count them, it's basically all just feeling and flowing.
And Dave and Noah just feel so in synch with each other than it never comes across as clunky. It just flows.
bullseye wrote:
Prospect hummer:
I like the EP a lot and I like vashtis vocals but it's really hard not to think about how great it could have been when listening to the boots of that time. So many gems didn't make the cut or didn't turn out so well in the studio, IMHO. Learning how to dive is so nice and energetic on the other music boot, the studio version doesn't even come close. Imagine it with a sort of production as on WCWAR, it would be glorious (they also completely butchered baby day in the studio). I also like prospect hummer much more with pandas lead vocals. They could have glued together baleen sample and always you and just make it an epic 20 minute meditation in the style of visiting friends. It doesn't make any sense to think about all these "what ifs", but they could have done a sung tongs 1.5 with all the material they were sitting on. I'm glad we at least have some decent boots though!
I love Prospect Hummer but being an album listener most of the time I kinda do this for every era. A 'what if they threw all the other songs from the era together and made an extra album' type thing. Thye have enough material that there could pretty much be a 2.0 for every album from Ark through to PW.
dio wrote:
^From a Beach exists in a no-space b/w Water Curses and FBK and its tragic as hell.
Agree.
dio wrote:
Good Lovin is my favorite far and away. Certainly was not initially... that would be Leaf's/Love and Soft Voice. But damn Good Lovin. It's gorgeous.... and like... romantic. I like how it sounds like someone is hushing avey sometimes. And Panda has some of the most insane back-up Vox oat on it.
Good Lovin >>>>>>>> most music
Panda's stuff cracks me up in the best way. I fucking love this song too.
scrambledgreggs wrote:
listened to Prospect Hummer and Berserker. Prospect is not only their best EP but possibly my favorite EP of all time? the story behind it is so incredible, bringing a legendary folk singer out of retirement through a mutual appreciation of each other's music. and then she went on to release two more great albums! I get the sentiment that these songs could've also been great with traditional Avey/Panda vocals but I think Vashti's presence just makes it so much more special. her voice also matches the childlike nature of the songs/tongs just as well
Yeh the story is so heart warming and helps give the Ep this real sense of warmth and support. Love it.
scrambledgreggs wrote:
Berserker sounds like Young Prayer stretched out with really inventive ambient techno beats placed underneath it. I love that style of Panda's vocal delivery, no discernible lyrics but just really emotional/yearning/longing sounds in his moaning. "Swan" really goes places over its 25 minutes, that segment in the middle with the extreme vocal processing is slightly terrifying but just goes so well with what the rest of the track is doing. I'm usually not a fan of ambient techno but Jane manages to make it so interesting, I lost count of how many times the loops changed and beneath the surface there's just so much going on
Yeh, this is definitely the best Jane. I think it sets an atmosphere really effectively. Going to give it a close listen in the next little while. Would love to hear Panda incorporate the wordless yearning style into some new stuff.
Slippi's Applesauce wrote:
Prospect also might be my favorite EP of all time. it's so easily digestible, the three actual songs are great, and baleen sample is a nice soundscape to lose yourself in.
i probably listen to it 2 times a month, it's become very meditative and comforting to me. immense calm. i'll throw it or just another diamond day on when im feeling rough and snuggle up in some blankets or something. not to mention the title track, which is a top 5 ac song imo
Yeh, you're spot on. It is so intimate and calming.
Fovrodi wrote:
I am crying and you are also crying
What a bunch of absolute champions.
blindmowing wrote:
We've entered the period of AC music that has a strangle hold on me. Sung Tongs-MPP is the greatest 4-album run in the history of music, constant companions in my life
I'd include Ark in that and make it a 5 album run. Absolutely with you though. This stretch of albums has enriched my life more than any other music in existence.
blindmowing wrote:
each of which is considered my favorite album of all time given the season:
Winter = MPP
Spring/early summer = Sung Tongs
Late Summer = Feels
Autumn = Strawberry Jam
This works beautifully! I think MPP gets winter because a lot of us would still associate it with when it freebirded right?. man that was special. the greatest christmas present ever. will never forget my first listen (but i'll save that for later).
blindmowing wrote:
Sung Tongs, when set in the context of the indie music landscape, is an anomaly for how it ended up connected to the freak folk movement Devendra Banhart-Joanna Newsom were heading up in SF. While the band denies any correlation to the scene or the label, it's undeniable that the music fits in as a psych-y, experimental deviation to the sound coming from the west. This is notable to me because so much of their music before this was much more connected to the New York sound/east coast bands/vibes. This is the first album where I say they begin to take over TERRITORY, sonically. This is when their pilgrimage really takes them far away from home, and I'd argue every album since Sung Tongs sees them exuding a different portion of land within America. This album was recorded in Colorado, but it sounds a lot more like New Mexico or something more southwest.
It was always funny seeing music critics/journos trying to find a place to slot AC into during those years. They were so original, prolific and varied and the music writers just couldn't figure it out. One minute they were New York noise makers like Black Dice, then they were freak-folk like Devendra, then they were indie rock like Arcade Fire, then they were chillwave, indietronica, etc etc.
blindmowing wrote:
ST perfectly encapsulates my childhood experience, the wonder and curiosity and mania of my pre-teen days wandering around drinking the sun and sword-fighting imaginary animals. They have moved on from forest children to holidaying hooligans, galivanting through campgrounds and lakeside resorts, darting into obscure forests and emerging into the serene countryside with a trunk of electronic gadgetry to go along with their acoustic guitars and floor tom. It's perfectly boisterous, uncouth, wide-eyed and imaginative. Lyrically, they have distilled the spirit of Animal Collective's early years perfectly on this record...capturing the essence of their joy and free-spiritedness. Sonically it is such a treat, little electronic sounds pinging and ponging, fragments of field recordings twisting and twirling and tumbling and seeping through the songs. Vocally, they're going gangbusters, using every kind of voice and inflection they can think of, from elated hollers to garbled mouth experiments to whispers to chants. These songs showcase the greatest mix of a straight song being warped just enough. Songs for daydreaming, hoola-hooping, wandering, driving, anything you'd do on a summer's day... oh man, and I'm just touching the surface.
This is so good. You're absolutely spot on blind. Love the images they conjure up for you. Hard relate.
madameghostly wrote:
Feels: perfect. a masterpiece in every way. i've loved this album since the day i first heard it, and there's always something new to discover when i hear it again (like i think this listen was the first time i ever really paid attention to the backing harmonies on the bridge of Grass. gorgeous stuff. also it took me this long to realize both Young Prayer 6 and Loch Raven have "i will not give up on you" in the lyrics. funny that)
just about every song on this album is an S-tier AC song in my eyes. i've even come to appreciate Flesh Canoe. no, really, i went into this thinking "oh man, this is gonna be great. this album would be perfect if it wasn't for Flesh Canoe" and then the album was like "oh, would it? BOOM" and a switch got flipped in my brain
Awesome that it has clicked for you. This song is fucking incredible. Always think about my wife and I living together and just letting our guard down. Beautiful beautiful stuff. And I agree, the whole album is absolute perfection.
madameghostly wrote:
People: (Bandcamp version cause that's the one i have) this thing is a Tikwid sandwich on stale bread. okay, maybe it's not that bad, but when you put a song like Tikwid next to People and My Favorite Colors... y'know? like they definitely could've made something better with some of the other outtakes they had in the Feels era
Harsh! I think People is underrated. Its like happy Ark. Great middle ground between the screamy intensity of Ark and the lush sonics of Feels. Its just such an awesome vibe too. Love this song. That said, Tikwid is next level.
madameghostly wrote:
Fickle Cycle: now this is what i'm talking about. this song is a certified banger for sure. could've easily been on Feels
For sure. Always wish Tikwid and this had been squeezed onto Feels. Really, anything to make Feels longer. That album should just never end.
phodicae 2 wrote:
foxtrot you're like the main one writing beautiful paragraphs getting me embarrassingly pumped about albums i hadn't had on my mind recently.
Ha! Glad people are enjoying mine as much as I'm enjoying theirs. Also, no shame! I am so fucking pumped atm. About albums I've loved for 15 years! Let alone TS (don't listen to Walker yet, don't listen to Walker yet, don't listen to Walker yet...)
phodicae 2 wrote:
all of you are straight up better than pitchfork, if there was a journal that just had like all of you not hating on albums, but just describing why you liked them, i'd read it.
I've actually thought about this a few times. A kind of 'if you can't say anything nice' type thing. Just me ranting about why I absolutely adore a bunch of art. Just nothing but good vibes.
Alright, FEELS.
Hold me. Hold me back actually. There aren't enough hours left in the week to write down everything that's great about Feels. This album (just like MPP a few years later) arrived at the perfect moment in my life. A time when I was giddy with love. The woman I shared that love with is now my wife. We have three kids, 5 chickens and a cat. And I am so incredibly grateful that I have the love in my life that I do. This album isn't saccharine for me. It is genuine, wholesome, electrifying, carnal, lustful, comforting, warm, dizzying and rich with stories and feelings that I never tire of.
My 1st listen this week was so different to previous weeks in this schedule. For Ark, I knew I wanted to be alone in nature. For Danse I knew I wanted to be focussed on all the details. For Feels I knew I wanted to be on the couch with my wife. In the end our cat joined us too. It was another blissful listen to Feels notched up. The couch, love, comfort, cuddles, domesticity, warmth, electricity, smelling her hair, petting my cat, soaking up every ounce of the album. Hence no specific notes.
My review for Feels over on RYM is just a bit of fun really. It's about how psychedelic and sensorial the album is:
My eyeballs are bleeding apple sauce and my finger nails have turned into halved grapes. My feet are melting into the concrete and my mouth is drooling ginger honey.
But the album means so much more to me than that.
Feels is like eating perfectly ripe Peaches at the perfectly right moment. Not just an album I love but an album I’m ‘in love with’. This album is like a honeymoon period that never ends. Everything just feels so full of excitement and potential. Every brush against their skin sending tingles up your spine.
Every track tells a part of the story for me.
Did You See The Words = getting comfortable with each other's bodies, wondering if the passion will remain as we grow and mature (thankfully it has so far)
Grass = the nervous energy about budding romance
Flesh = living together and letting vulnerability in so that love can flourish
Purple = the thrill of the thought ‘I am in love with someone”
Bees = the way love makes you more mindful, gentle, a more empathetic part of the ecosystem
Banshee = reflecting on all the relationships that got you here. they ended but it was worth it.
Daffy = giddy and disoriented and watching the relationship grow and change
Loch = cuddles on the couch. commitment and dependency in the most intimate and healthy way
Turn = wondering if we're too smitten, trepidatious yet hopeful about how this will grow and develop
Anyway, Feels is pretty good hey