Mentioned this in another thread and had some interest in others coming along for the ride.
For those trying to take a break from TS tracks and keen to take a tour through the AC back catalogue:
Being the weirdly obsessive person I often am, I've drawn up a bit of a schedule to revisit their back catalogue between now and TS release date. Roughly 10 weeks to go and roughly 10 eras to cover. There is so much to listen to! Plenty to keep us going.
Going to try and roughly stick to this and give everything a spin before Feb 4:
WEEK 1: Now – Dec 2
Spirit, Panda self-titled, Danse, Hollind
WEEK 2: Dec 3 – Dec 9
Campfire, Ark, Young Prayer, Blasted
WEEK 3: Dec 10 – Dec 16
Sung Tongs, Prospect, Feels, People, Berserker, Oboroed/Circus Lives
WEEK 4: Dec 17 – Dec 23
Strawberry, Pullhair, Water Curses, Dead Drunk
WEEK 5: Dec 24 – Dec 30
MPP, Person Pitch, Fall Be Kind, Down There
WEEK 6: Dec 31 – Jan 6
Oddsac, CHz, Honeycomb/Gotham, Tomboy, Keep, Transverse Temporal Gyrus
WEEK 7: Jan 7 – Jan 13
Slasher House, Sleep Cycle, Grim Reaper (+EPs)[/size][/b]
WEEK 8: Jan 14 – Jan 20
Painting With, The Painters, Gnip Gnop/Hounds, Eucalyptus, Meeting of the Waters
WEEK 9: Jan 21 – Jan 27
Tangerine, Cows, Conference of Birds, Live in the Land of the Sky, Music Box
WEEK 10: Jan 28 – Feb 3
Buoys, Day with Homies, Bridge to Quiet, Crestone
I guess if others are keen, this way we've got the schedule here in the OP and anyone can pop in and share thoughts on that week's albums/EPs etc.
Giving Panda - self titled a spin right now
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Splitting hairs here, but shouldn't PP and Water Curses be swapped? Even if in loosely chronological order
Yeh, I guess I was trying to find a middle ground between chronological order and stuff that worked well together as a unit of listening for the given week.
Awesome that there are few people keen to get in on it.
Have given Panda - self titled and Spirit one spin each so far.
I had honestly forgotten (just a little bit) how magnificent Spirit is. Haven't given the full album as listen for a while.
It's like walking through a pile of ripped up photos of your own childhood. Full of innocence, joy and nostalgia as much as it is full of destruction and loss.
Accepting that the fantasies that you once clung to no longer hold their magic. Really feel Avey and Panda tried to create one more magic spell for themselves (and for us) to hold onto here. It's such a unique album in their catalogue but so powerful.
I'm going to fucking love doing this.
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It's like walking through a pile of ripped up photos of your own childhood. Full of innocence, joy and nostalgia as much as it is full of destruction and loss.
Accepting that the fantasies that you once clung to no longer hold their magic. Really feel like Avey and Panda tried to create one more magic spell for themselves (and for us) to hold onto here.
this is well-put. damn. i can't wait for the new vinyl remaster. truly a special album
Dec 10 – Dec 16
Sung Tongs, Prospect, Feels, People
Dec 17 – Dec 23
Strawberry, Pullhair, Water Curses
Dec 24 – Dec 30
MPP, Person Pitch, Fall Be Kind
insane period of material. Christmas Week especially is just a magical streak... kinda get to revisit the MPP Xmas freebird feeling with a MPP listen on Xmas day... that would be cool
Yeh, I guess I was trying to find a middle ground between chronological order and stuff that worked well together as a unit of listening for the given week.
Seal Eyein' -> In the Flowers I don't actually think I've ever heard bc I'd listened to WC to death by the time MPP dropped.
foxtrot wrote:
It's like walking through a pile of ripped up photos of your own childhood. Full of innocence, joy and nostalgia as much as it is full of destruction and loss.
Hell of a way to put it Foxtrot, it's gonna be great
This is gonna rule. Gonna run a bath immediately after work, light some candles, and listen to Spirit. My favourite AC record and maybe just my plain favourite album of all time. Though maybe that'll change after this retrospective!
This is gonna rule. Gonna run a bath immediately after work, light some candles, and listen to Spirit. My favourite AC record and maybe just my plain favourite album of all time. Though maybe that'll change after this retrospective!
Okay, just had a bath and relistened to Spirit. What a fucking album man. How on Earth did these two guys in their early twenties make such a masterpiece. AS THEIR FIRST RECORD AS A BAND. I really hope the upcoming remaster doesn't mess with the mixing here too much because it's absolutely perfect as it is. Avey sounds like a wizard in the middle of a swirling vortex of spells, barely able to shout his commands through a cacophony of magical piano, drums and noise. My lord the lyrics are sad. You can really hear Avey yearning for a time he's lost and can't go back to. I wonder what he thinks about growing old now, and the way he portrayed it, twenty years later. If the album was just weird instrumentals and nostalgia, that would be enough, but on top of everything - THE SONGS ARE CATCHY AS HELL. I'm gonna have "I feel so elusive in Houston. You feel so exclusive in Houston" in my head for the next week. I love how each track has a simple little melody at its core which just completely mutate into these psychedelic star fields, packed with little quirks and intricacies.
This is probably my favourite album of all time, I could go on about it forever. Unbelievably beautiful.
If I've gotta hear one more person say they hope the remaster removes the high frequencies and noise I swear to god, I'll do something unspeakable.
I wouldn't want the high frequencies and noise to be taken out and I appreciate the unique mix of spirit, no other record I know sounds like it. I do wonder how it would sound with a "proper" mix. Or rather "full" mix, as it does sound like some frequencies are just missing, like an unfinished puzzle. I hope the announced re-release will beef up the sound or at least have an alternative mix of the record including (one can dream).
You should throw the Jane and Terrestrial Tones records in there too.
thought about this but decided those are kind of separate projects, outside the AC world. might still give them a spin when i'm revisiting that mid 2000s period.
Dec 10 – Dec 16
Sung Tongs, Prospect, Feels, People
Dec 17 – Dec 23
Strawberry, Pullhair, Water Curses
Dec 24 – Dec 30
MPP, Person Pitch, Fall Be Kind
insane period of material. Christmas Week especially is just a magical streak... kinda get to revisit the MPP Xmas freebird feeling with a MPP listen on Xmas day... that would be cool
Yeh, I was pretty chuffed when I realised that MPP would happen around Christmas. Still have such vivid memories of my first listen - walking around a small Japanese village in the snow at night. Was absolutely magical and still the greatest single first time listen of my life.
r_o_s_s wrote:
r_o_s_s wrote:
This is gonna rule. Gonna run a bath immediately after work, light some candles, and listen to Spirit. My favourite AC record and maybe just my plain favourite album of all time. Though maybe that'll change after this retrospective!
Okay, just had a bath and relistened to Spirit. What a fucking album man. How on Earth did these two guys in their early twenties make such a masterpiece. AS THEIR FIRST RECORD AS A BAND. I really hope the upcoming remaster doesn't mess with the mixing here too much because it's absolutely perfect as it is. Avey sounds like a wizard in the middle of a swirling vortex of spells, barely able to shout his commands through a cacophony of magical piano, drums and noise. My lord the lyrics are sad. You can really hear Avey yearning for a time he's lost and can't go back to. I wonder what he thinks about growing old now, and the way he portrayed it, twenty years later. If the album was just weird instrumentals and nostalgia, that would be enough, but on top of everything - THE SONGS ARE CATCHY AS HELL. I'm gonna have "I feel so elusive in Houston. You feel so exclusive in Houston" in my head for the next week. I love how each track has a simple little melody at its core which just completely mutate into these psychedelic star fields, packed with little quirks and intricacies.
This is probably my favourite album of all time, I could go on about it forever. Unbelievably beautiful.
If I've gotta hear one more person say they hope the remaster removes the high frequencies and noise I swear to god, I'll do something unspeakable.
Love how you describe it. Especially "Avey sounds like a wizard in the middle of a swirling vortex of spells, barely able to shout his commands through a cacophony of magical piano, drums and noise".
Such a special album and what a way to start. I agree that any remaster needs to keep the high frequencies and just beef up the rest.
I have to say, listening to Panda self-titled then Spirit back to back is interesting. One artist finding himself as a teen and the next creating a fully formed masterpiece just a couple of years later.
Yeah this was my first time sitting down and listening to his self titled from start to finish. Maybe I heard it in full like a decade ago, but it left no impression on me. Honestly, the second half is a nostalgic, kinda sad, meditative experience. Enjoyed it a lot more than I expected
Heading off on a train ride tomorrow after work. Gonna listen to PB's self titled for the first time ever on the journey. Very excited. Anything I should keep in mind?
I guess just keep in mind that he was 18 when he made most of it. It wears its influences on its sleeve and doesn't really have much of the 'AC sound'. It's a great little lo-fi bedroom indie album but definitely approach it from the perspective of it being a fun easter egg type thing in the broader catalogue. Also, Noah hadn't really found his voice yet. Not a game changer but there is still heaps to enjoy on it!
Hope you really enjoy the listen.
My thoughts after giving it another spin today:
It has some real strong points and some nice little signposts of things to come.
‘Inside a Great Stadium and a Running Race’ has a great beat (very Autechre). This one, ‘Fire!’ and ‘We Built A Robot’ remind me of Casiotone For The Painfully Alone and other similar stuff around at the time. ‘Fire!’ has a cool bouncy little indietronica groove that I really enjoy.
‘Mich mit einer Mond’ is really sweet.
‘Ohne Titel’ hints at some of the cool, high pitched chirpy synth stuff that would pop up on future early releases.
‘O Please Bring Her Back’ and ‘Ain’t Got No Troubles’ are both interesting in the sense that you can hear Noah starting to develop some song writing skills. They’ve never done lot for me though. ‘Ain’t Got…’ reminds me so much of the sort of shit my friends and I used to make when we were 16 and listened to a lot of Nirvana and other grunge.
The run of ‘Winter In St. Moritz’, ‘Liebe auf den Ersten Blick’ and ‘A Musician And A Filmmaker’ on the other hand is gorgeous. Kinda bedroom Tortoise vibes. Evocative and elegant. Great mix of melancholia and beauty. This stretch is easily the highlight of the album for me.
Sometimes When It Hurts is also really pretty.
The end of A Lover Once still gets me. This track is really moving too. Feels like Sparklehorse, Daniel Johnston, Elliott Smith or any of those awesome sad sack indie dudes from the late 90s.
Real shit... musician and a filmmaker is top 3 panda songs for me. i love his tones... why was young panda so bummed? sometimes when it hurts bad it feels like dis... what happened to my voice song... god damn. and this album is so funny bc.. panda bear just says shit so matter of fact-ly.
"man down, this man needs medical attention"
"it will be a long day tomorrow"
i love it sm. i love it so so much. baby panda is quintessential to his catalog to me cuz we know where he came from. singing about being on a farm and shit... just glad to be so simpleee
Definitely don’t hold it in the same regard as you but loving revisiting it as part of kicking off this thing. So awesome that it holds such a special place for some out there. I think every record we cover in this retrospective will have its fans that hold it especially dear. Which is pretty rad.
made a mix tape for a friend in high school that started with "sometimes when it hurts this bad it feels like this" and tried to include at least one song the sample described, wish I could find the tracklist
Panda bear S/T and Spirit They’re Gone could be another classic Avey/panda Speakerboxxxx/The Love Below situation. Both carry and exude the childlike spirit so intensely, yet come at it from different angles and aesthetics.
The Panda Bear album is better than I’d previously thought. If this album was trimmed down to 40-ish minutes of music which stayed more in the lo-fi indietronica lane and didn’t go too singer-songwritery, then this could’ve been considered a classic of that bedroom indie scene. However, it’s weighed down a bit to much with some of the inchoate sing-y tracks that don’t quite hit as much as the more ‘produced’ songs. You can tell Panda’s got an innate ability to produce music, but he hasn’t found his voice yet…which is probably why he disowns the album. Still, there are many tunes here that warrant obsessive listening!
Spirit remains my least favorite AC album. In theory/on paper, I love the forest child lost within the frequencies thing. The fantasy world-building is great, and a perfect vehicle to express emotions…and aesthetically I love the idea of lo-fi recordings of piano/guitar/drums joined with these demented Disney soundscapes that get flung into the highest of frequencies, but I have to admit listening to it isn’t a great experience overall. It wears on me as a whole album. There are classics – in the second half of the album especially. “Chocolate Girl” nails the psychedelic Disney aesthetic. Every element of that song is perfect.
pretty fun to run through these early albums and hear sound FX that they'd later use on their praised albums... like there's a sound effect in the middle of "Chocolate Girl' that they used all over MPP as one of the swampy layers (notably heard at the opening of "In the Flowers")
I still find Spirit astounding, a record which scratches a unique itch, something incredibly rare and special. The opening track is magnificent and hypnotic, like blowing open the doors to a new world and it only gets better from there. April, La Rapet, Penny Dreadfuls, Chocolate Girl are all marvellous and the record culminates in the ne plus ultra unparalleled anthemic edition of AC in Alvin Row.
Danse and Hollind are where AC blows the doors off my brain and i find my true kinsmen ... Danse is top 5 AC for me; never have found another record that comes close to being the same
Due to a couple of requests I have chucked the Jane and Terrestrial Tones records in. I mean really, people are just going to listen to what they want to listen to anyway but yeh, they're in the schedule now so people can chat about them in the given week.
I wanted the weeks to finish on a Thursday (day before new release day) which meant this first 'week' is more like a week and a half. Oh well, more time to dig into these first 4 albums. Love the chat about Panda and Spirit so far. Looks like people haven't moved onto Danse/Hollind quite yet. I'm planning a focussed listen to Danse today. Will probably go back around and relisten to all 4 for this week before Dec 2.
blindmowing wrote:
The Panda Bear album is better than I’d previously thought. If this album was trimmed down to 40-ish minutes of music which stayed more in the lo-fi indietronica lane and didn’t go too singer-songwritery
Totally agree with this.
blindmowing wrote:
Spirit remains my least favorite AC album. In theory/on paper, I love the forest child lost within the frequencies thing. The fantasy world-building is great, and a perfect vehicle to express emotions…and aesthetically I love the idea of lo-fi recordings of piano/guitar/drums joined with these demented Disney soundscapes that get flung into the highest of frequencies, but I have to admit listening to it isn’t a great experience overall. It wears on me as a whole album.
Totally disagree with this! I can understand that some people might find it sonically draining though.
blindmowing wrote:
Danse and Hollind are where AC blows the doors off my brain and i find my true kinsmen ... Danse is top 5 AC for me; never have found another record that comes close to being the same
Interesting that you don't find the sonic assault on Danse as draining as Spirit. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on these two as we start digging into them. Danse is a special one for me too. The first case of them making something so foreign and so intriguing that it just baffles the mind.
blindmowing wrote:
pretty fun to run through these early albums and hear sound FX that they'd later use on their praised albums... like there's a sound effect in the middle of "Chocolate Girl' that they used all over MPP as one of the swampy layers (notably heard at the opening of "In the Flowers")
Yeh, I'm loving this aspect already. It's going to be so rad slowly making our way through the whole catalogue and witnessing the progression and the foreshadowing as they evolve and introduce ideas that get developed more later on. Not sure I've ever systematically made my way through quite like this before.
Stan wrote:
I still find Spirit astounding, a record which scratches a unique itch, something incredibly rare and special. The opening track is magnificent and hypnotic, like blowing open the doors to a new world
Absolutely captures my feelings about this album too. And so many AC records for that matter.
FEEL ON1NE!!! wrote:
la rapet is one of ac's finest songs... i cant believe he wrote that shit at 19
Same! Alvin Row and April and Choc Girl get a lot of attention but I think this and Bat are right up there.
if Spirit was tracks 5-10 it would be a perfect AC album. i know everyone who loves Spirit will scoff at this, but that's where i'm at. enjoying the backhalf as much as i did this past listen makes me want to give the front half a bunch more listens...maybe it'll come together for me. at the moment it's almost like the album shows the progression of his idea for this album becoming realized as each song goes on, and by the back-half he totally figures out how to master his vision.
i moved onto Danse Manatee today. this is the ultimate frequencies record and i think this album must be listened to at ear-bleedingly HIGH VOLUMES to get the whole experience. very visceral album. i remember jay reatard saying it was one of his favorites. at the time i wasn't a fan of Danse, but his take on how much he engaged with the frequencies and textures was one of the reasons i wanted to dig back into it (this is years ago) and sure enough it became a favorite. i believe Geo also referenced this as his favorite AC album for awhile
best track: In The Singing Box.
my friend used to play Deerhoof in the thrift store she worked at when there were customers in there that she wanted out. i can imagine this would be another good album to play when you're trying to get people to vacate the vicinity.
A fascinating, idiosyncratic, thorny bush that is full of totally unique ideas, crazy textures and unbridled energy. Creative, adventurous and visceral.
For me, Danse is the most pure, the most unfettered AC record. Ark would hone this sound into something fiercer and more fecund. But here, it was gnarly and loose. Awkward yet unencumbered.
Manatee sets the scene perfectly. Electronic yet very primal and elemental. And then Penguin Penguin just goes nuts! I feel like these two tracks (and Another White Singer) are just little snippets that lead you into, and unlock, this whole new world. This unhinged, carnal mess that is still full of playfulness and wonder. Unlike anything else. Love Panda’s manic drum assault, the piercing frequencies and the ‘AH ahhhh!’ bits. So many insane textures rattling around. Have always really enjoyed the way the insect like sounds come in here and lead into the transition to Another White Singer. An early example of their careful consideration of sequencing and providing a unified sonic experience. Another White Singer is so simple yet so infectious. The chanted backing vocals hook me every time. I like to imagine these first three tracks as parts of a whole opening suite. We get our first introduction to the ‘AC’ sound – brave experiments with electronics, noise rock with playful overtones and crazy textures, and primal layered vocal work that taps into something genuinely timeless and almost apocryphal.
Essplode – pretty much the only track Danse haters see any merit in – obviously introduces a strong melodic element that wasn’t really prioritised in the first section of the album. I never get the criticism that this album lacks song writing skills or whatever. This dude (Dave) had just written SPIRIT FFS. He can obviously write a song. But he teamed up with his buddies and they decided to tap into something deeper. More elemental. Danse isn’t about ‘songs’. Anyway, this is the closest they get and they obviously nail it. The melodies here are just sublime. Panda is all over the shop in the best possible way. Those high synths swirl around, providing a through line from Spirit. The chorus is so sweet, the noise elements and the build in the middle all so satisfying. The fact it ends with the sweet guitars and cute ‘yeh! yeh!’ stuff over the final chorus is also the perfect way to finish. All that said, for me, this song is a great little tune but essentially a breather before the quintessential Danse track…
Meet The Light Child. No song on this album does it better. A multi-part epic that captures everything brilliant about this era. Love the twisted ambience set by the first section. The mind bending guitars spinning gloopy psychedelic webs around your face while super low bass warbles and super high noise skitters around the periphery. The sighing ‘Hey giiirrrllll’ parts. I freaking love the second section with the big ‘Whoa-oooohhh-ohhh!’ explosions. Then the totally childlike, unashamed, instinctual, super joyful little freak out – seriously – no artist I have ever heard can make stuff like this and get away with it. Love all the little screechy, chanty bits that pop up here. The next section evolves into this lush, widescreen thing of beauty. Love the gentle vocals, that sweet two note chiming melody, the droning guitars and Noah’s loose, free jazz drums bouncing like skipping rocks across a pristine lake. One of my favourite sections of the whole album. Only topped by what follows: the last part of this glorious, sensual, carnal journey thorough the light. Dave says ‘Meet The Light Child’ and then the breathtaking ‘Bah bah, bah bah, bah bah, berrrrrrr’ section leads the song out. I could listen to this last little section for at least another minute or two. It captures everything that makes this band brilliant and beautiful. Also love the lyrics in this one. Dave’s unique take on ‘love songs’ already emerging. In lots of ways, I feel like this song was a precursor to Feels. Top 5 AC songs of all time for me.
Runnin’ The Round Ball is a great thumping groove to lock into after the loose, formless progressions of Meet The Light Child. Feel like this track signposts later deep dives into the trance-like electronic beat driven stuff on MPP etc. (reminds me of Guys Eyes in particular). In much the same way, Bad Crumbs hints are Noah’s developing sense of melody and a bunch of the ambient, textural yet melodic stuff they’d embrace later.
Living Toys is a cool drone piece and works well wedged between the shorter, punchier ideas on either side. That said, it’s the only part of this album that I don’t love love. I never skip it (I’m not really a skip tracks person) but it doesn’t pull me in quite like Meet The Light Child or Ahhh Good Country. I do dig the intense build up sections and it definitely conveys a mood. Darker and less lively than other parts of the album. Like a moment of doubt after a commitment has been made. They’ve thrown themselves into this new sound, laid bare, exposed. This track is like a moment of anxiety or hesitation before forging ahead.
Throwin’ The Round Ball – another early experiment playing with those chirpy synths, looping layered vocals and uniquely candid, pure feeling that would come to be defining elements of their approach. Love this little track.
Ahhh Good Country improves on a lot of what Living Toys hinted at. The droning guitars drive the song more successfully here. The vocals really soar and grip the listener. The melodic element is stronger yet none of the noisy textural detail has been lost. Love the lyrics. Like ‘Meet’ and love songs, this is a great example of an early nature themed song. Particularly love the imagery of the line ‘Mountain lions gonna surely wake up’.
Lablakely Dress – love those frequencies at the start. Love the freaky vocal effect (another signpost for future sounds). Love that reverbed tinny drum sound that comes in and out. Love the Panda vocals floating around. Just a fantastic track. Beautiful haunting atmosphere.
In The Singing Box is such a perfect closer. Have heard lots of people say that they find this album oppressive and/or anxiety inducing but I totally disagree. I feel like so much of it is really playful. A bit ugly at times but that’s all part of the sense of discovery. You toddle clumsily before you walk. Anyway, this track perfectly sums up that joyful, spirited feeling that permeates the record for me. The opening vocals are so sweet and bouncy, the whole rhythm of the song is like watching kids throw around a ball. It’s wonderful. I love the way the droning two note high pitched synth is anchored by the in-and-out Panda beat and the synth bass. Then the whole thing gets even more fun when the high synth starts moving around and all the yelpy vocals come in. I mean, fuck me. Listen to the sounds these guys are making. They don’t give a fuck. They’re completely consumed by the pure joy of making sounds with their voices. This part of AC is the single most appealing feature for me. And its effortlessly and delightfully displayed here.
Danse has a certain primordial feel that makes it really unique. It’s not as simple as sounding ‘tribal’ or ‘noisy’. It’s like the first pre-historical creature with legs climbing out of the swamp. It’s full of intense wonder and discovery. Yet it is also dirty and grotesque. Crude and clumsy yet unfettered and without pretense. A filthy little beast brimming with the spark of new possibilities.
Looking at this schedule and I have to admit something openly here. I consider ac my favorite band but I have straight up no idea what blasted or oboroed are
The living toys is where danse manatee made sense to me. I always liked stuff like Singing box and runnin da round ball, but living toys is where it made sense to me, like what they're trying to do. I'm not gonna say i know exactly, but to me it's like, music for wounded CD pop music??? idk it's so stupid but they pull it off. I was in iris record store in jersey city listening to living toys, nice little sound system they got with their headphones, the deep bass hit that plays every verse... yeah motherfucker i get it. i dont think they went into it with an intention of doing it that way, it just sort've ended up like that since geo was mixing it and into that shit at the time. if it sounded like ark this album would be so much more accessible and make so much more sense chronologically at the time, and looking back in retrospect, which would actually make no fucking sense whatever.
The daginn version of lablakey is top 10 ac songs of all time for sure.
Looking at this schedule and I have to admit something openly here. I consider ac my favorite band but I have straight up no idea what blasted or oboroed are
They're the two Terrestrial Tones releases (Avey and Eric Copeland of black dice) preceding Dead Drunk
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I skipped ahead and listened to Jane - Paradise today, what a treat! “Solid gold wall” may be the closest to Panda Bear solo that they ever sounded, such a beautifully forlorn ambient melody. “Slipping away” I guess is also on Berserker so wasn’t as surprising, but the centerpiece “wait” goes through so many different sounds but never seems to drag on despite being 20 minutes. I also found the buildup at the end to be quite the thrill.
Jane in general I think is super underrated, I first listened to them right after discovering AC in 2007 but never got into their sound since it was so much more minimal and exploratory than AC’s material but revisiting it much later I’m always super impressed
Anyway back on this week’s topic I’m really excited to revisit Danse. “Bad crumbs” has always been a hidden gem for me that I don’t think gets called out enough. I’ve always thought it would be so cool for them to bring back Danse songs at live shows that fit the new styles, they all have incredible melodies tucked away inside they could really highlight in a live setting
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