[dio]

roopn wrote:

I know we're drifting from the topic at hand here but Faces in the Crowd aka Ms Pac-man is head and shoulders above the rest of the pbvsgr era tracks. So fun to sing, great lyrics, totally danceable. Mr Noah is good but I find the production so maximal it's hard to focus on any one thing. Would've been great stripped back to just that roaring synth, drums and vocals - homies style. Less doggy noises and modular bloops at least for some of the song idk

Faces is amazing. Makes me like wanna cry. Almost hard to listen to 'cuz I attached like so many emotions to it when it came out.

And nah I still kinda think Mr. Noah is a real WTF moment for me in his discog. The noisy butt-hole guitar works better for me on that one track on Chillin w/ the Homies (tomboy's psychotic little brother).

But yeah, I kinda love that I like the EPs from Greaper era better than the actual album, cuz why not, but if I could remix any AC Lp it'd probably be Greaper (and then CHZ maybe).

Cuz like Faces, No Mans Lands, Jabberwocky and Lisbon Zoo seem almost the far-and-away best tracks outside of Selfish Gene. But maybe they're like too powerful to be an a full length LP or something, idk.


annnnyway... Tomboy..

[dio]

if I could change one thing, I might dial the ol 'verb down slightly on Friendship and Afterburner. There's a point when there's so much it seems like... incorrect. but nah I dig it. It's really just the rare times when it drops down to a single vocal line/track, but it usually works when the whole Choir of Noah is there.

also realized some of the sampling, especially on those songs remind me of BD's Creature Comforts. The whole like, a-techno-virus-riddled-jungle kind of vibe.

in fact im pretty sure he was directly influenced by the way that like a millennia ago, the Kree and the Coati tree-people both occupied the blue-area of the moon and sought the favor of their Skrull overlords. Of course, the Kree developed a futuristic city with complex physical infrastructure while the Coati grew a lush rainforest and we all know how that turned out lol (it inspired TB)

[roopn]

Thanks for the write ups, drunk and sober. Great reading

[Fovrodi]

Tropic of Cans wrote:

Slow Motion easily the dud track on this, if there has to be one

Didn't catch you were talking about this, sorry

[dio]

"Keep you safe girl, just a little bitch"

[headroom)))]

Tropic of Cans wrote:

Slow Motion easily the dud track on this, if there has to be one

No Way Jose! Its great! The beginning sounds like a 50 Cent song, which cracks me up.
I like the 7" version a lot more than the album one. The delay on the vocals on that version have a cool rhythm. The way they come in and out with the guitar chords make me feel like my depth perception is being fucked with.

[sound science]

I agree, I love the delay on the single! Fits very well with the almost dubby vibe of the track. That loud spring reverb at the beginning of the album version is sweet too though.

[headroom)))]

sound science wrote:

That loud spring reverb at the beginning of the album version is sweet too though.

Yeah, every time I hear that sound when playing it in my car I think I ran over something.
Also, Scheherezade is the jam!! Those piano notes are haunting and PBs voice is super ethereal. I recently bought a knockoff Panda Bear shirt with the Tomboy cover art. Been wearing it a lot lately.

[preacherben]

dio wrote:

Mr. Noah sucks ass, damn. wtf.

i love mr. noah a lot, but i didn't realize until years after the fact how much it sounds like the post-grunge version of something on tomboy lol. i really do love it still though

[ClownFrown]

I've said it before and I'll repeat it again: Drone is one of PB's finest moments so far. It was the first of the Tomboy singles that I listened to and it completely floored me (still does). I understand that it might be "un-exciting" or "easily overlooked" by most listeners because of its simplicity and starkness. But it is those very elements of simplicity and starkness that heighten its impact. To me, Drone distills the saturated colours of Person Pitch into pure light and shadow--melody, texture, and words all become slow and monolithic... glacial in their movement.

(I'm too twisted to finish this thought at the moment, but trust me: Drone is excellent and I will complete this sentiment eventually).

[Cooper]

Drone is the perfect example for tension+release in songwriting

[Hellomark]

Cooper wrote:

Drone is the perfect example for tension+release in songwriting

It's also one of my favorite tracks from the Tomboy era and I agree with this 100%. I feel like it's a case where you can really see Noah's love of Daft Punk shine through. Not necessarily in the specific sonic pallet of course cause Drone sounds nothing like DP, but just in the way it's an exercise in pure, satisfying tension and release with few other elements involved. I've always felt similarly about DP tracks like One More Time, where the whole track is just showcasing this excellent ability to introduce a theme, withhold it, and bring it back in the most satisfying way possible. Drone is doing something similar, but instead of with four on the floor kick drum, it's been stripped down even more to the point where the formula is being achieved with simple, drawn out melody resolution. The very last "aaagggaaaiiinnn" in Drone often gives me chills.

[jfw7]

ClownFrown wrote:

I've said it before and I'll repeat it again: Drone is one of PB's finest moments so far. It was the first of the Tomboy singles that I listened to and it completely floored me (still does). I understand that it might be "un-exciting" or "easily overlooked" by most listeners because of its simplicity and starkness. But it is those very elements of simplicity and starkness that heighten its impact. To me, Drone distills the saturated colours of Person Pitch into pure light and shadow--melody, texture, and words all become slow and monolithic... glacial in their movement.

(I'm too twisted to finish this thought at the moment, but trust me: Drone is excellent and I will complete this sentiment eventually).

felt this exact thing from the minute the first bootlegs came out. it seemed so un-song at the time. i think you're right that person pitch would feel that way too but it's obscured by all the samples' rhythmic/temporal content—they are just as monolithic but you feel like they're groovin

[roopn]

All drone posts

[denjanenna]

drone is objectively trash and you're all wrong.

nah jk, drone is such a gem in the catalog. as great as yccom is in an opening context, drone was such great tone setter for that batch of songs...seeing/hearing that at governors island was quite a powerful experience (AND to hear that segue into daily was blissss)

[Freak]

listened to Tomboy againnnnnnnnn still a masterpiece

Noah "the undisputed dub post malone" Lennox

[roopn]

was just listening to a show - 2011-11-29 - and learned that the mororik version of preakness predates the pbvsgr material - it sounds really cool with the tomboy guitar still in there. interesting mix of eras knowing what came after it. it's a good boot, even though its incomplete. comfy in nautica sounds great. noah's vocals got pretty unhinged in this era.

any favourite 2010/2011 shows?

[meys]

Did Pete ever upload the digital version of the box set? I feel like we were waiting on sales of that to die down so they could all go to charity.

[lhtd]

No <\3

Been too afraid to ask for it after all these years

[jusswerjk]

Anybody have a link to that demo that Pete freebirded awhile back? I remember it sounding like the album but missing some leads here and there.

[tdegenaro]

1 - what demo

2 - tomboy box set is on soulseek

[lhtd]

the boxset on soulseek is a vinyl rip, which is great and better than nothing, but it ain't a digital version of expanded edition's mixes

[meys]

tdegenaro wrote:

1 - what demo

2 - tomboy box set is on soulseek

That's a vinyl rip lol. Pete mentioned a couple years back that once sales of the actual box slowed down he would see about uploading the digital versions. I would assume that those sales have probably run their course by this point!

[tdegenaro]

OOOHHH i understand now

[jusswerjk]

Whoops. I was drunk when I wrote that. I was thinking of the Grim Reaper demo that Pete shared awhile back.

Wrong thread, but I'll still take a link if anybody has one.

[tulis]

jusswerjk wrote:

Whoops. I was drunk when I wrote that. I was thinking of the Grim Reaper demo that Pete shared awhile back.

Wrong thread, but I'll still take a link if anybody has one.

Hey bud if you're on soulseek I have all the Greaper demos that I've found in a file (as well as other unreleased AC rarities), u/n is deleted5959, file is Panda Bear\Singles & EP's

To be clear, no officially released stuff


ETA: if one of you is currently downloading at 6:54 EST on 6/10, and you're encountering errors, I realized I hadn't updated the folder and so disconnected and reshared my folder so that it updates--my apologies. Check it again, I added some stuff (and removed one or two legally gray things)

[jusswerjk]

Ah yea. It’s the ATP rehearsal I wanted. Thanks, dude. And god bless the wazzup sample. Shall it never be forgotten.

[tulis]

jusswerjk wrote:

Ah yea. It’s the ATP rehearsal I wanted. Thanks, dude. And god bless the wazzup sample. Shall it never be forgotten.

O I've got those too, let me throw those on Soulseek

[chickenchips]

Hey. Asked about this on the subreddit and discord but maybe some diehard panda bear solo album lover could answer here.

Does anyone have a HQ vinyl rip of the alternative mix of Tomboy from the 4xLP Boxset?

I saw a comment from Sonic Boom that said the album is mixed differently on the boxset, but PB didn't announce this because he didn't want to fleece the fans into buying it (respectable). Well, I only buy CDs but this wasn't released on CD as far as I can tell. I checked soulseek and the usual suspects but couldn't find it anywhere. Not an expert user on any of this (never needed to before now) so might be user error there. Kind of a big commitment for me to buy the box set, get gear to rip myself, just to listen to one album. But Tomboy is amazing so I'm kind of tempted if a hero can't provide. paging the Panda Bear wizard Preakness pls help if you can.

[chickenchips]

wrote:

Hey bud if you're on soulseek I have all the Greaper demos that I've found in a file (as well as other unreleased AC rarities), u/n is deleted5959, file is Panda Bear\Singles & EP's

Looked you up on soulseek, i see your profile and that you have 115 files, but when i try to browse it gives me "error trying to get file list".

edit: found your discord msg saying you don't run Soulseek all the time. will just be cyber stalking it now and again

[tulis]

chickenchips wrote:

wrote:

Hey bud if you're on soulseek I have all the Greaper demos that I've found in a file (as well as other unreleased AC rarities), u/n is deleted5959, file is Panda Bear\Singles & EP's

Looked you up on soulseek, i see your profile and that you have 115 files, but when i try to browse it gives me "error trying to get file list".

edit: found your discord msg saying you don't run Soulseek all the time. will just be cyber stalking it now and again

it's up now, there should be 232 files at this point, lmk if it's not working right. i unshared and reshared the folder so it should be working now...

[preakness]

Not sure if anyone’s interested, but I made a visualizer for the singles version of tomboy. It immediately got blocked for copyright so I unlisted it. Worked hard on the visuals, really wanted everyone to have access to these mixes and a sick visual to trip out too!

https://youtu.be/DPVW8Zl3p_w?si=33frgZy3Gjc3thQz

[tulis]

Thank you!

[marmoacolazionereloaded]

dio wrote:

roopn wrote:

I know we're drifting from the topic at hand here but Faces in the Crowd aka Ms Pac-man is head and shoulders above the rest of the pbvsgr era tracks. So fun to sing, great lyrics, totally danceable. Mr Noah is good but I find the production so maximal it's hard to focus on any one thing. Would've been great stripped back to just that roaring synth, drums and vocals - homies style. Less doggy noises and modular bloops at least for some of the song idk

Faces is amazing. Makes me like wanna cry. Almost hard to listen to 'cuz I attached like so many emotions to it when it came out.

And nah I still kinda think Mr. Noah is a real WTF moment for me in his discog. The noisy butt-hole guitar works better for me on that one track on Chillin w/ the Homies (tomboy's psychotic little brother).

But yeah, I kinda love that I like the EPs from Greaper era better than the actual album, cuz why not, but if I could remix any AC Lp it'd probably be Greaper (and then CHZ maybe).

Cuz like Faces, No Mans Lands, Jabberwocky and Lisbon Zoo seem almost the far-and-away best tracks outside of Selfish Gene. But maybe they're like too powerful to be an a full length LP or something, idk.


annnnyway... Tomboy..

I'm absolutely with you with Faces in the Crowd. Makes me like wanna cry all time. I'm not mother tongue, so I don't get all the words immediately. I remember the first time that I listened to it, feeling super moved, like tons of goosebumps. As If unconsciously I know what he talk about, as if the palette of the sound was the idiom of my soul. Then after that I read the lyrics and I was destroyed

[marmoacolazionereloaded]

In this ten years i usually have fantasies about Surfer Hymn as an Animal Collective's song on Centipede Hz, im the only one?

[blindmowing]

ah Surfer's Hymn is such a solo Panda song to me... like quintessential starry-eyed beachwave Panda doing a solo trip... couldn't imagine that one with a band

if it had to land on an AC album i'd pick MPP

[pox]

never thought about it but i could imagine surfers hymn on mpp. warmer production, dave singing the harmonies, some geo additions to the synthetic burbles and you're there. they should bust it out next tour as a group.

[blindmowing]

pox wrote:

never thought about it but i could imagine surfers hymn on mpp. warmer production, dave singing the harmonies, some geo additions to the synthetic burbles and you're there. they should bust it out next tour as a group.

exactly. and you know what, it may have been as big of a hit song as "My Girls"\

i will maintain the 7" single version of "surfer's hymn" is 10/10 perfect music though

[marmoacolazionereloaded]

pox wrote:

never thought about it but i could imagine surfers hymn on mpp. warmer production, dave singing the harmonies, some geo additions to the synthetic burbles and you're there. they should bust it out next tour as a group.

I was thinking more of a version with the drumkit he used to play in Centipede era. Something sonically very full like that album was and super energetic that, in some way, can rythmically follow the path of Monkey Riches

[pox]

interesting. i never thought of surfers hymn outside the context of the echoing watery beach vibe, but it does kinda have the clattering noisy quality of centipede as well. i hear what you're getting at with the monkey riches comparison.

this convo is making me hear tomboy in a new way which is pretty neat. it was never a favorite of mine but i might be a listen or two away from having it finally click.