"Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???


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What if that Moor Mother collage had been the only pre-release material we’d gotten? That would’ve been tantalizing and so fun to pick apart. A dream for the next album: to get some mashup of the full album and NOTHING ELSE.

Apparently that's kind of what PB had in mind for Mix Ticks but Domino put the kabosh on that

It still kinda happened with the pbvsgr.com loops
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Buoys basically did that idea as a preview video

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Let me know if this is a stretch. I know Noah is a fan of Stewart Copeland. I was listening to “Tea in the Sahara” today. The production and sonics on that record remind me a lot of the Skiffs/IIN? era, especially the way the Skiffs songs were rendered. And Noah’s style on the kit, of course. Another connnection: lead singer on bass. Love both groups, at any rate.
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DILWeed wrote:
Buoys basically did that idea as a preview video


this example is great; so are the earlier ones. PB seems to like the concept. so maybe i need something like this AND the willpower to resist any singles that get released. so, it's on me that i didn't have this experience with buoys lol

i think the moor mother collage takes it a step further (or more sideways) though - pieces from different tracks are woven together so closely that, freed from knowledge of the album, it would be hard to tell whether sounds are from the same songs or different songs. pretty trippy
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i don’t understand the point of the moor mother collage quite honestly.. i could see how it would work to bring some hype being released before, but it’s not an enjoyable piece of music to listen to. people seem to like it, but it sounds like amateur dogshit. am i really the only one?
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You’re definitely not alone, I haven’t seen anyone outside of here say nice things about it
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I was pretty excited about it before I heard it, just cause I'm a big fan of Moor Mother's stuff generally. A few neat ideas in there, but yeah no reason to listen more than once lol.
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gave this album a full spin for the first time in several months the other day while gently tripping on mescaline. previously i was kinda mixed on this tracklist, feeling like there were some a+ songs (soul, genies, magicians) and some songs that i wanted to like more but didn't totally land for me. and also kings which i never particularly liked listening to at all. lo and behold, with the right drugs, this thing is 10/10 with no dull moments. i cried during the first section of defeat, recovered, then cried again during the third section. i always thought stride's melody was slightly unintuitive and impeded the emotional weight of the lyrics, but this time it felt totally organic. broke zodiac and gem landed like pop perfection. i even loved kings. the album was patient, rewarding, perfectly paced. crack open a cactus juice for this one folks.
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Seems like kind of a pointless song to me and I wonder if Noah made it lame on purpose.

Is Dave about to release something????
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Yo central Ohio anco heads, magnolia thunderpussy in Columbus has two signed copies of isn’t it now, one by Avey and one by geo and avey. My bet is they are from when the dudes were in town last fall.
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pox wrote:
gave this album a full spin for the first time in several months the other day while gently tripping on mescaline. previously i was kinda mixed on this tracklist, feeling like there were some a+ songs (soul, genies, magicians) and some songs that i wanted to like more but didn't totally land for me. and also kings which i never particularly liked listening to at all. lo and behold, with the right drugs, this thing is 10/10 with no dull moments. i cried during the first section of defeat, recovered, then cried again during the third section. i always thought stride's melody was slightly unintuitive and impeded the emotional weight of the lyrics, but this time it felt totally organic. broke zodiac and gem landed like pop perfection. i even loved kings. the album was patient, rewarding, perfectly paced. crack open a cactus juice for this one folks.

Awesome.
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I'm listening to this album right now
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Would highly recommend - cool album full of great songs
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conswaygo wrote:
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Dave sounds possessed.

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Seeing these names again threw me into a nostalgic frenzy.

I wanted to wait but would like to be punched in the face now. Please and thank you :smoking:

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Happy belated birthday to this one! Cannot believe it’s been a whole damn year since this got released and even longer since the freebird. Also can’t believe I’m still a little burnt out on these tracks but it has future classic written all over. I’ll come back to this in a few years and probably adore every minute. Defeat and Magicians you are still my children. ATCAB…. See you in a few years lol
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how long do you have to wait until you can dub an album a "classic"?

if it's a year, then i can finally say this is a classic
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i'm ngl i think it is one of their best for sure.
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I have a weird connection with this album because last year around the time of its release I thought I had found my soulmate and he also loved Animal Collective and we listened to the album together when it came out... but then our relationship fell apart shortly after and I started to associate the album with intense grief and feeling distraught. but I've gone back to it every month or two since and I've been able to reclaim it for just myself. listening again today because it's so autumnal and it really is a beautiful and unique album, despite being kinda sprawling and messy at times (which kinda fits my emotional experience with it)

all this to say yes it is another classic, it holds up with the very best of their work
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Yeah this is up there for sure. Great example of how important the timbre of a record is just as important as the compositional elements. I loved Time Skiffs, but this record has an immediately clear sonic identity that is in itself so inviting and warm, and also unique in AC’s discography, and compared to many other artists discography’s too. One of the things I really love about this band is the care they typically put into the character of their recordings. Every record from Spirit to CHZ has an a sort of overall master texture that all of their compositions live within, that immediately give the records a sort of conceptual distinction from their contemporaries. For me, that quality felt absent on PW and Time Skiffs, which to my ears sound pretty blandly digital despite both containing great compositions. IIN? feels like it returns this idea that the recording itself can be an instrument, the tape sound, the room sound—everything just sounds unique. Modern yet vintage. More from a place of non-time than Time Skiffs, which sounds extremely
2020s to me in production.

Anyways I’m kind of just rambling. This shit is great!
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Is "Defeat" on this album?
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meys wrote:
Is "Defeat" on this album?

that one is one sinister grift i think
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i like when they shout feet
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The one thing that I continue to miss on this record is Noah doing those little AYE's in Genie's Open
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For me it’s Noah’s big AYYYYY during the first transition in that song. Doesn’t feel the same without it. Also Avey’s dolphin noises always made me chuckle
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There will always be a few little demoitis moments like that. But the fact that Dave included a little 'yup' in Defeat makes up for it. Still smile every time.
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I kinda wish genies got the skiffs treatment. In general I appreciate the stripped down approach taken on IIN vs TS and the song selection to that end, but genies feels like the one where there’s a lot of room left in the final product for some extra goodies
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Can anyone do that AI thing where they take a vocal of Noah's AYYYE from live recordings and insert it into the studio mix?
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i will attempt this (and then probably get obsessed with making a million other little edits hehe)
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hm that request reminded me that we haven't got the rest of the music box release yet. what's the hold up!
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Hard drives went missing in transit. Came up in an interview Josh did with Jordan Randall
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ugh i forgot about that. hope they turn up, i am dying for a better quality version of og defeat
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Fovrodi wrote:
Hard drives went missing in transit. Came up in an interview Josh did with Jordan Randall

WHAT
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