[Tropic]

Surprised no one brought this up from the ama

wrote:

I think memes like the red velvet thing are annoying. kindly, let it go. it was a non event.

-josh

Hell yes

[dansemanatee]

Tropic wrote:

Surprised no one brought this up from the ama

wrote:

I think memes like the red velvet thing are annoying. kindly, let it go. it was a non event.

-josh

Hell yes

Damn I really liked the red velvet moment tbh

[floats]

I mean, no offense to Josh, but “it was a non event” has less weight coming from the mouth of the perpetrator. I’d need to hear from Avey before I could truly let it go.

[destiny]

I've had that fucking interview's jingle stuck in my head ever since I watched it a decade ago and I hate it. It's not even particularly good it just plays like 3 times in the video Ahahaha.

[blindmowing]

Having a moment with Centipede Hz

Remembering how much I loved this album when it came out in 2012…not sure why it’d fallen out of favour with me for the past 6-7 years but I’m officially back on board …

[coral lord]

Josh clearly is tired of being the subject of 99% of the stupid memes about the band, people need to give it a rest.

[Alcohol]

Long, winding, caffeine-adled aside:

What do you think of the desire to remix and remaster and recontextualize that is so en vogue these days? I understand the impulse. Financially, it is probably, for the artist, a no-brainer. But I can’t shake the impression that ultimately it cheapens the art.

Rhino, for example, is systematically reimagining the discography of one of my favorite bands, The Replacements. Some of the records, like Pleased to Meet Me, were simply remastered and a few mediocre B-sides were tacked-on, as is the custom. Tim, in addition to B-sides and a sonically mediocre live recording, was expanded with an entirely new mix. Yes, the original 1985 mix is famously “bad,” which only means fans disapprove of Tommy Ramone’s aesthetics. Too much “bad” 80s digital reverb, they say. The drums are too tinny, they say. So, the remix, of course, is sonically pure, rich, full, clear. Now, they say, you can finally hear what Paul is singing! And you can. Now, they say, the drums are huge! And they are. But guess what? In so doing, it isn’t Tim anymore. Not the Tim that slayed me and shook me to the core. The desolation of the record is gone. The weird mono-ish wall-of-sound tsunami that kinda hurt my ears but hit me straight in the heart is gone. The remix even features guitar licks that were recorded back in ‘85 but are, intentionally, inaudible in the original mix. So, in some cases, these are also different compositions. This is the case too with Don’t Tell a Soul, also maligned because of its original mix. They remixed it (the engineer even recorded new parts in some instances where the master tapes were missing, for example, percussion), resequenced the tracklist and even gave the record a new title, Dead Man’s Pop.

Of course, the revisionist urge is ascendant in all of the arts right now, as it is in politics, history, etc. There is certainly a larger philosophical aspect to all of this re: memory and time, but just in terms of this movement’s effect on the art object—I think it sucks. Your favorite records are talismans, right? They are magical objects. They are a product of a time, a place, a mindset. That is what gives them their conjuring powers. If we’re going to give Rubber Soul a stereo mix—if we’re going to change history—then let’s redo all of 1965 while we’re at it. Let’s have AI rewrite Dune, Fox In Socks, The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch. Let’s un-drop Agent Orange over Vietnam. Let’s un-kill Malcolm X. Let’s undo Johnson’s inauguration.

Milan Kundera: “The ethic of the essential has given way to the ethic of the archive.” I don’t want Feels remixed by Giles Martin and retitled Pacifier. I don’t want Centipede Hz deconstructed and “Father Time” replaced by “Gotham.” What’s done is done. Let it be. There are innumerable cliches to describe what’s going on, to describe our culture’s manic inability to detach.

Isn’t it now?

[roopn]

good post!

[memememe]

nah the new Tim is better

[hedgecore]

I enjoy listening to a remix/etc but I agree... part of the fun is hearing the context in which the music came about. Now, the remixed versions are the defacto ones on streaming services because old songs now "fit in" sonically with new songs on playlists. Look at the 50th anniversary remix of All Things Must Pass compared to the original one for an example. It's been a while since I listened to it, but the kick drum is more prominent, vocals a lot more upfront. Personally I love the sound of the original mix (and any master minus the 2001 cd release, which sounds like balls from I remember). It's nice and soupy, huge and epic and is a great compliment to the lyrics and mood of the record. Although looking at Spotify, the 2014 rerelease/remaster is the first one that pops up, which is cool


I know the majority of people don't give a shit about that and like or aren't consciously aware of the changes to the new ones, but it sucks for that stuff to be slipping away over time. I don't want a bluray of an old movie that has been digitally altered to take the grain out of the picture, or replacing those old glass breaking sound effects that have absolutely no high end to them lol with high def cool sounding noises. Just gimmie what it looked liked and sounded like back in the day, displayed at the highest quality (sourced from a good print, etc)

[tdegenaro]

blindmowing wrote:

Having a moment with Centipede Hz

Remembering how much I loved this album when it came out in 2012…not sure why it’d fallen out of favour with me for the past 6-7 years but I’m officially back on board …

i feel like the bonefish pod (of which I am not a part of but guys if you're here and you want a certified panda bear meets the grim reaper freak to guest my schedule is open) doesn't get enough plugs around these parts and while the fellas are divided on CHZ I really, really enjoyed the episode and gave a relisten an added depth just after hearing those guys dish about it.

highlight take: CHZ is animal collective's nu metal album lmao.

anyway all i want to add is chz is like, fucking incredible, and I'll freely admit my first time seeing them live was at p4k 2011 and obviously chz was my first new release as a fan but like, goddamn, good piece of music. i feel like a lot of the stuff a lot of fans want out of anco they deliver in spades on that record.

[jfw7]

did someone make the 100000th post in this subforum today? congratulations to all who post

[PolarBear]

My wife is watching Austin & Ally and I’m trying so hard not to be a nerd and tell her that the shop they work at, which is called Sonic Boom, is also the name of an artist Panda Bear works with :’)

[blindmowing]

Alsatian Darn

what a song

[Fovrodi]

Image for the latest O'Brien System looks like little Geo dressed as Pee Wee Herman for Halloween

https://www.nts.live/shows/geologist/ep ... tober-2023

[dansemanatee]

blindmowing wrote:

Alsatian Darn

what a song

last time i listened to tomboy i was sitting on my porch and it was one of those summer nights after a rain storm where its hot but also windy and the clouds in the sky are super defined and dark grey, which is exactly how that song has always felt to me.

[lhtd]

Anyone else simultaneously excited and perturbed by MPP on Apple Music? Looks like they added the live in LA Summertime Clothes that was a bonus track in Japan... but they also "replaced" the songs, which now have gaps in-between them, and the record is no longer amongst their 'top tracks'. The latter isn't so important but it was helpful for me when I was on the go and felt like listening to MPP without pushing too many buttons.

[tulis]

lhtd wrote:

Anyone else simultaneously excited and perturbed by MPP on Apple Music? Looks like they added the live in LA Summertime Clothes that was a bonus track in Japan... but they also "replaced" the songs, which now have gaps in-between them, and the record is no longer amongst their 'top tracks'. The latter isn't so important but it was helpful for me when I was on the go and felt like listening to MPP without pushing too many buttons.

I know what you mean, annoyed the heck out of me too. What I found is that there's exactly 2 seconds of silence added on to each track. In the Music desktop app (or iTunes if you use Windows), if you Get Info for each song, you can go to the Options tab and reduce the Stop time by 2 seconds, and that'll fix it on your Apple Music mobile device

...for whatever reason, though, it doesn't remove the gap on playback in the desktop app, though

[dansemanatee]

merriweather post pavillion more like room on fire

[Tropic]

Just watched Mulberry Street. Great little film and Loch Raven over the credits was a nice surprise. Then I see Josh Dibb's name in the credits as 'additional creature voices'. Terrestrial Tones also on the soundtrack and Danny Perez art director. P cool

[jfw7]

wow, looks like that's maybe the first mention on CA? he's "Josh Bibb" on imdb which is funny and the danny perez entry isn't linked to our guy. same cinematographer on both too. what was the terrestrial tones track?

e: https://ringostrack.com/en/movie/mulberry-street/33732 The Sailor it looks like. blood on the wall too (who also show up on "they keep me smiling" with AC + TT (+ Jane + Excepter + GGD)

[Tropic]

The Sailor.

Cool, hopefully Josh can chime in again !

[dansemanatee]

Need to watch this, the sailor is one of my favorite songs. would be perfect in a movie

[awesome]

this would be cool to read....

wrote:

Today, Talkhouse announces the inaugural edition of Talkhouse Reader, a brand new print and digital zine launching next Tuesday, November 7th. Featuring original essays, criticism and conversation about music and film from the people who make them, the publication will further embrace the first-person storytelling and artist-focused mission that all of Talkhouse is built upon. From Talkhouse.com's online media platform to the award-winning Talkhouse Podcast Network, Talkhouse Live events and now Talkhouse Reader, each step forward continues to prioritize authenticity, credibility and creativity, bringing its audience deeper and more directly into the minds of its favorite musicians, actors, filmmakers and others in their respective fields.

...

Panda Bear and Avey Tare share an oral history of Animal Collective's NYC beginnings....

https://shorefire.com/releases/entry/ta ... t-platform

[hewasbeingstinky]

You can download the digital version of the talkhouse zine for free if ur curious! Funny anecdote about a short lived moving company Noah and Dave started.

[awesome]

oh damn, thanks for the hot tip, reading now


edit: looks like they stayed with some gang gang dance members while recording IIN? —— i wonder if they'll turn out to be the collaborators on this EP deakin mentioned

[awesome]

new yorker crossword today

[andthephantom]

awesome wrote:

new yorker crossword today

oh nice! i construct crosswords as a side hustle, and i have a themeless puzzle with animal collective and all four members hidden around the grid and clued in a non-AC way. it's now been rejected by all the major crossword editors. lol. glad the boys broke in somewhere!

[Tropic]

andthephantom wrote:

awesome wrote:

new yorker crossword today

i have a themeless puzzle with animal collective and all four members hidden around the grid and clued in a non-AC way. it's now been rejected by all the major crossword editors.

obviously hahaha

[muark]

andthephantom wrote:

awesome wrote:

new yorker crossword today

oh nice! i construct crosswords as a side hustle, and i have a themeless puzzle with animal collective and all four members hidden around the grid and clued in a non-AC way. it's now been rejected by all the major crossword editors. lol. glad the boys broke in somewhere!

Get it up in crosswords.com so we can have a squiz!

[hewasbeingstinky]

Avey has a new track on a compilation according to his IG!

[augustjsmith]

You can hear it free here: https://soundcloud.com/user-703915832/0 ... -avey-tare

Avey at his most freeform, still quite melodic. Contains a full recipe. Like a Eucalyptus cut but more brittle and metallic.

[dansemanatee]

augustjsmith wrote:

Like a Eucalyptus cut but more brittle and metallic.

That's such a good way of putting it. To me it also sounds like if the outros on skiffs was a full song

[Hellomark]

Love this, wish it went on longer.

[rohcti]

Oh man. This is so good.

[destiny]

you gett oned chopped shallot

[blindmowing]

Mark Richardson on the Bonefish podcast about Young Prayer.

Probably the most succinct explanation of why I love Animal Collective:

"AC's [creative process is] very instinctive feeling, responding to the moment, being in the moment. In the ways its manifested, these kind of vocal arrangements -- they speed up, they slow down, they're yelping or maybe barking -- you sometimes imagine kids who are playing -- they're running around in the woods making sounds, and their music sometimes sounds like that. I think of that kind of approach to music is very spiritual because it's very much about honouring the moment and spontaneity and feels very much like a celebration of life. It's very physical. The way they make music with their hands in terms of how they strum the guitar and how they use their voices is like feeling the pleasure in making sounds. It's like, "Oh I made a different sound there that's going to be in my music." It's pretty spiritual in and of itself."

[opposite field]

blindmowing wrote:

Mark Richardson on the Bonefish podcast about Young Prayer.

Probably the most succinct explanation of why I love Animal Collective:

"AC's [creative process is] very instinctive feeling, responding to the moment, being in the moment. In the ways its manifested, these kind of vocal arrangements -- they speed up, they slow down, they're yelping or maybe barking -- you sometimes imagine kids who are playing -- they're running around in the woods making sounds, and their music sometimes sounds like that. I think of that kind of approach to music is very spiritual because it's very much about honouring the moment and spontaneity and feels very much like a celebration of life. It's very physical. The way they make music with their hands in terms of how they strum the guitar and how they use their voices is like feeling the pleasure in making sounds. It's like, "Oh I made a different sound there that's going to be in my music." It's pretty spiritual in and of itself."

This is a really good quote. Mark has been writing about AC for a long time, always nice to har him go on about the band. Reminds me of my pitch for Painting With to a friend which was something like "imagine if you took all of those fun sounds you make when you're aimlessly playing around with a synth and actually make a record out of them."

[foxtrot]

fantastic quote. exactly why these boys are the best.

[Cooper]

That is sublime