[lhtd]

Praying that Dave and Noah recorded Sea of Light to include as a B-Side to a Genie's Open single

[blindmowing]

Because "Defeat" exists and might be on IIN? (sheer speculation, not sure if we should get our hopes up), I know this has probably numbed us to the hype of getting another long track on an AC album, but damn, other than Defeat we haven't had a 10-minute track on an AC album since 2004! ("Safer" comes closest at 9 minutes in 2007.)


"Magicians" is going to be SO special, SO epic.

[blindmowing]

A few mini reviews of the album:

wrote:

At 64 minutes, Isn’t It Now? stands as Animal Collective’s longest album to date. Despite its length, the album feels concise and cohesive, offering a seamless blend of anxiety and beauty, nostalgia and progress, sadness and hope. The project also captures the spirit of togetherness. The band finished recording the album in just 12 days, using no more than 24 channels.

wrote:

The album strives past a solely auditory experience, creating a space of internal and communal reflection.

I'm not sure I've ever read a review call a 60+ minute album "concise." Amazing.

What's more interesting is the word "cohesive" in talking about a group of songs from so many different writing sessions that we've all wondered how they're going to fit together. Doubly amazing.

[wilandhugs]

blindmowing wrote:

Because "Defeat" exists and might be on IIN? (sheer speculation, not sure if we should get our hopes up), I know this has probably numbed us to the hype of getting another long track on an AC album, but damn, other than Defeat we haven't had a 10-minute track on an AC album since 2004! ("Safer" comes closest at 9 minutes in 2007.)


"Magicians" is going to be SO special, SO epic.

Blue Noses! But it is an EP release. And Temporal Gyrus then too lol

[Benji]

Is it not confirmed that Defeat is on IIN? It's on the track list for the orchid record and cd on domino and the track list for Bandcamp.

Sea of light (trail version) B-side

[andthephantom]

I think folks are just worried that the song Defeat on IIN? isn’t the same song as Defeat (A Not Suite), but a different twenty minute track with a similar title.

[jerry wonder]

andthephantom wrote:

I think folks are just worried that the song Defeat on IIN? isn’t the same song as Defeat (A Not Suite), but a different twenty minute track with a similar title.

It is highly likely it is a completely different song, so Defeat as we know it will not be on the album, likely highly

[unrecordednight]

essentially 'defeat' is on the album but 'defeat' isnt on the album - hope that clears things up!

[MFpotus]

We just won’t know until the album is out

[the feeling store]

MFpotus wrote:

We just won’t know until the album is out

And even then... it's anyone's guess really.

[destiny]

Willie told me Defeat on the album is just spilling guts 20 times

[zak]

Spilling guts.. spilling guts spilling guts

[shellfishgrimes]

andthephantom wrote:

I think folks are just worried that the song Defeat on IIN? isn’t the same song as Defeat (A Not Suite), but a different twenty minute track with a similar title.

either this is some joke that every member on this board is in on, or nobody has actually preordered the album on Apple Music.

it's the same Defeat as the single, dudes. you can listen to it. Defeat is on the record!

[archie]

shellfishgrimes wrote:

andthephantom wrote:

I think folks are just worried that the song Defeat on IIN? isn’t the same song as Defeat (A Not Suite), but a different twenty minute track with a similar title.

either this is some joke that every member on this board is in on, or nobody has actually preordered the album on Apple Music.

it's the same Defeat as the single, dudes. you can listen to it. Defeat is on the record!

hey man pretty sure its in the forum's guidelines to avoid spreading misinformation.. there has so far been no confirmation that defeat will be on this album, let alone any album. not trying to make you feel bad or anything but yeah just be careful what you post because a lot of people will read this and believe it without looking into it any further

[Stan]

I messaged Dave on Insta and he said "what's Defeat?"

[foxtrot]

shellfishgrimes wrote:

andthephantom wrote:

I think folks are just worried that the song Defeat on IIN? isn’t the same song as Defeat (A Not Suite), but a different twenty minute track with a similar title.

either this is some joke that every member on this board is in on, or nobody has actually preordered the album on Apple Music.

it's the same Defeat as the single, dudes. you can listen to it. Defeat is on the record!

Why the board full of trolls rn?

Not cool dude. Don’t get my hopes up.

[coral lord]

Honestly, not even joking, I wish Defeat were on the album :/

bums me out that we waited years and they teased us like this. Oh well.

[tdegenaro]

The defeat bit is so good. I wonder as we squirm towards the inevitable freebird if there will be one more iin meme to carry us across the finish line

[tdegenaro]

I propose we shift discussion to evaluating the merits of what medium you’re buying the album in. With songs clocking in as long as they are I’m saying CD is the best

[Slothrope]

Defeat (A not on the album Suite)

[Stan]

tdegenaro wrote:

I propose we shift discussion to evaluating the merits of what medium you’re buying the album in. With songs clocking in as long as they are I’m saying CD is the best

Bandcamp.

[Tikwid]

How about sound/lyrics predictions for All The Clubs Are Broken? Was pretty fun in the runup to Time Skiffs guessing what Strung would be like - I remember Slothrope getting it very close, even down to predicting there'd be several big moments of silence. For this new jam I reckon the Of Montreal comparisons are suggesting a Wraith Pinned To The Mist/Gronlandic Edit sort of tempo, a little bit disco in the same way TriKid was a little bit disco. As for the lyrics, I think an overt ACAB sentiment would be surprising, not in terms of the AC's own views but in how they express them in their music. But maybe the broken clubs = destroyed truncheons?

[preacherben]

it's just college but its "you don't have to be a cop"

[Hellomark]

Actually it would be sick if All the Clubs was actually TriKid, it would fit given the length and the "medieval pop song" description. The only thing is that they probably wouldn't have included it in that official Music Box release if they had it planned for IIN...

[soothsailor]

i wouldn't be surprised if acab ends up having the vibe of trikid, kind of like how bluish was the sonic evolution of maya/from a beach. something propulsive and electronic is what i'm guessing. faster than 120 bpm though

[soothsailor]

soul capturer has grown on me quite a bit now that the first listen sheen has worn off. it's gonna be a great vibe-setter for the rest of the album. avey's (and panda's) vocals rule, i like the lyrics, the songwriting is simple but effective. it might end up being one of my least favorite compared to defeat and the other behemoths waiting to be heard, but it does just fine as an opener. very welcoming

[jerry wonder]

I have decided to go on a sort of music fast leading up to the release--I will not choose any music to listen to, only what is heard in my environment, or put on by other people in casual situations. I stopped listening to the singles so they have some newness in the context of the album. This is, in part, to help me focus on making my own music, but also to have IIN be a true whopper of a first listen. I've stayed away from the boots for a long time now, which I haven't done for an AC album leadup since SJ.

So far I am 5 days in and it's feeling good--one side effect is I am making up a lot of songs throughout the day to get through the withdrawal, it feels nice and creative...

[soothsailor]

tdegenaro wrote:

I propose we shift discussion to evaluating the merits of what medium you’re buying the album in. With songs clocking in as long as they are I’m saying CD is the best

went with tangerine vinyl for the feels, but gonna be doing most listening via digital download (flac)

[Stan]

preacherben wrote:

it's just college but its "you don't have to be a cop"

Big laugh

[Slothrope]

I’m predicting AtCAB will sound similar to to the more upbeat songs on 7s but with full band setup.

[nothingmastered]

there's a non-zero chance of harpsichord on acab

[dio]

I think acab is a jaunty, jangly lil acoustic guitar heavy piece and has the title in the lyrics like "..and all the clubs are brokKEEEEN" like I might record the version of it in my head honestly. The only "medieval" vibe truly will be in form of either flute type sounds or ya maybe harpsichord/auto harp. It will have kind of older English nursery rhyme imagery and geo will do weird magic spell type sounds and like. Teleportation sound fx throughout

[floats]

my vote is for a feral, hollinndagainesque recording of the boys shattering medieval instruments in the studio. After a cacophonous climax, a moment of silence, and a satisfied sigh, "All the clubs are broken" is whispered in unison

[Slippi's Applesauce]

Based on the village green comparison, I’m hoping for some harpsichord haha. This era has been pretty simplistic song structure style (even kings) so I would love if it wasn’t a quick verse chorus type song. Something like the burglars with 1000 parts in a short time would be fun, or maybe it’s just a repeated melodic line that builds in intensity. Either way I’m expecting intricate harmonies

[Dudders]

dio wrote:

I think acab is a jaunty, jangly lil acoustic guitar heavy piece and has the title in the lyrics like "..and all the clubs are brokKEEEEN"

Lol this immediately made me think of Gettin' to the Point. Maybe it's just that song with slightly different lyrics and a Village Green sample instead of Eddie Cochran.

[destiny]

Tri kid being acab is fucking me up rn. Imagine you just hear tri, tri tri kid tri tri kid kid

[dio]

I mean ya it'd be kinda cool but like... it def aint Tri Kid right. Unless maybe they re-worked the hell out of it and made it more medieval... gotta be careful about that word tho... I think it means a lot of diff things to people, so going off one person saying medieval could mean nothing.

but smoking gun I think is that tri kid was included in the MBV release. I do like Tri kid tho kinda, maybe studio Tk will live one day... you never know if there's gonna be a EP for this era.... doubt it but who knows. PB <3s, Tri Kid, Sundown with Cecil and The Path ???

[Benji]

unrecordednight wrote:

essentially 'defeat' is on the album but 'defeat' isnt on the album - hope that clears things up!

Gotcha!

This might be the final sign that I need to go to the doc for a tism test

Soul Capturer is similar to Prester John to me. Takes singing along a little to feel it, that don't tempt me bit is amazing

[Slippi's Applesauce]

tri kid was so trash

[muark]

blindmowing wrote:

A few mini reviews of the album:

wrote:

At 64 minutes, Isn’t It Now? stands as Animal Collective’s longest album to date. Despite its length, the album feels concise and cohesive, offering a seamless blend of anxiety and beauty, nostalgia and progress, sadness and hope. The project also captures the spirit of togetherness. The band finished recording the album in just 12 days, using no more than 24 channels.

wrote:

The album strives past a solely auditory experience, creating a space of internal and communal reflection.

Where did you find these?