[Fovrodi]

lhtd wrote:

seconded on the track list. I listened to it all day yesterday forvrodi and noticed how the medieval jazz theme was much more prominent to my ears

Thanks heaps dudes! This encouraged me to revisit the album for the first time in maybe months, very proud of the order, had a chill afternoon

[tay's tee games]

Great job, Fovrodi. Only thing I can't quite get on board with is Walker as a closer but I also sorta think... this album doesn't have a standout closer? To me, Defeat and Genie's are the closers of the era and they didn't manage to get either on this thing so it feels a bit open-ended or possibly inconclusive in a way.

[Fovrodi]

We'll see you out...THERE

[roopn]

lol. I like your sequence too.

grats on 200 pages everyone

[conswaygo]

Revisited TS after a long time away. It sounds even better to my ears now. There isn't a track I want to skip.


Grateful for this LP.

[foxtrot]

Revisiting this now after overplaying Defeat a bit today.

Fuck I love this album. It feels so homely and lush. Like I've set up my home just how I want it and its such a welcoming and beautiful space to be in.

[Sufjan]

I love this album too. They just went for straight beauty on most of these songs and I love it. I think TS2 is shaping up to be its more ambitious brother but this album will have real staying power, because the songs are so good and the aesthetic is so soothing

[foxtrot]

Sufjan wrote:

I love this album too. They just went for straight beauty on most of these songs and I love it. I think TS2 is shaping up to be its more ambitious brother but this album will have real staying power, because the songs are so good and the aesthetic is so soothing

100%.

[foxtrot]

Fovrodi wrote:

lhtd wrote:

seconded on the track list. I listened to it all day yesterday forvrodi and noticed how the medieval jazz theme was much more prominent to my ears

Thanks heaps dudes! This encouraged me to revisit the album for the first time in maybe months, very proud of the order, had a chill afternoon

Just had a listen to Fovrodi Skiffs. Good fun! Definitely gave the collection a fresh feeling!

[captainlunatic]

HOW DID THEY KNOW

[andthephantom]

With so much talk over the last 18 months about how they weren't able to record this one with the live in-person dynamics, it would be cool to put together a Live Skiffs version based on the best boots for each track. Same order as the LP.

[foxtrot]

Have you seen my ‘Blast Skiffs’ version on YouTube?

Same thing but from the Blast sessions so just missing Strung.

https://youtu.be/bLDeI2Ddrd0

(On my phone so can’t get embed link)

[andthephantom]

Oh - awesome! Thanks. This is exactly what I had in mind.

[blindmowing]

foxtrot wrote:

Have you seen my ‘Blast Skiffs’ version on YouTube?

Same thing but from the Blast sessions so just missing Strung.

https://youtu.be/bLDeI2Ddrd0

(On my phone so can’t get embed link)

Woahhhhhhhhh thanks for this. Maybe I knew this excited in the past and had forgotten about it, but this is the vibe I'm needing again. Thank you!

[foxtrot]

Sweet! Great to see it still holds some value!

[dansemanatee]

Just listened to time skiffs and it still sounds as good as when it came out if not even better, but I finally get why a lot of people aren’t a fan of the track listing. Dragon slayer->strung works so well for me but walker and cherokee feel like they move at too similar a pace to be next to each other. We go back is also just such a weird pic for the penultimate track, should have been passer-by

[Dusty]

Has anyone here heard the Japanese exclusive bonus track live version of Car Keys that comes on that edition of the CD? I’d love to hear that performance in HQ

[Slothrope]

It still burns that one of the best anco demos of all time (passerby) became the worst song on its album (passer-by)

[tdegenaro]

Sloth what’s your #1 passerby demo/live cut?

[Slothrope]

tdegenaro wrote:

Sloth what’s your #1 passerby demo/live cut?

the Henry Miller boot is my go to 2019 boot, very high quality recording and minimal crowd noise. I just wish it had 2019 Dragon Slayer/Shine as well, but Meow Wolf satisfies that craving suitably

[zauderhaft]

Fovrodi wrote:

try:

1. Prester John
2. We Go Back
3. Dragon Slayer
4. Strung With Everything
5. Royal and Desire
6. Cherokee
7. Car Keys
8. Passerby
9. Walker

this really is a way better listening experience, cheers!

[Fovrodi]

Aw, thanks!

tay's tee games wrote:

Great job, Fovrodi. Only thing I can't quite get on board with is Walker as a closer but I also sorta think... this album doesn't have a standout closer? To me, Defeat and Genie's are the closers of the era and they didn't manage to get either on this thing so it feels a bit open-ended or possibly inconclusive in a way.

Happy?

A:

• Prester John
  We Go Back
  Dragon Slayer

B:

• Strung with Everything
  Royal & Desire
  Cherokee

C:

• Car Keys
  Passerby
  Walker

D:

• Defeat

Hehe, actually tried this and dug it

[destiny]

I like the walker closer. We'll see you out... THERE. Reminds me of Buoys. SEE YOU AROUND

[Fovrodi]

Beginning:Middle:End::Prester John:Royal & Desire:Defeat gives it a cool balance, may change when all of it's out. I previously didn't think the split eras could mix, really think Defeat is gonna be the glue

[Dusty]

I’m gonna be trying out this combined tracklist when Isn’t It Now? comes out, based on the flow of the 2019 shows

1. Passer-by
2. Car Keys
3. Gem and I
4. Dragon Slayer
5. Broke Zodiac
6. King’s Walk
7. We Go Back
8. Cherokee
9. Walker
10. Stride Rite

[awesome]

so...... any chance we get an announcement this week?

or prob next, which would be ~2 months before 9/29?

[lhtd]

The Blast version of Walker is so much more of a walking song. Damn.

[corrie]

Man listening to blast skiffs here really reminds me of the demoitis i felt when i heard studio car keys, did end up really liking the studio version but i so love the way it slips into the groove live, could have benefitted from a more protracted intro

[rohcti]

^100%, I was really hoping they would keep the dreamy intro, it deserved it

[preacherben]

gotta say, soul capturer and defeat having a fairly different production style and energy has made me appreciate skiffs a ton more. i feel like without the weight of uncertainty regarding when/if songs like defeat, magicians, genie's etc were coming, this album can now be solidly its own unique thing. I always really loved it but just listening back today made me appreciate certain things in its production that i might have criticized previously. I like that it's low-key, often relaxed, and slightly at a distance. it's like a birdseye view of the era, whereas IIN is gonna be the nitty gritty

[destiny]

i love we go back's chorus so much lol.

[Fovrodi]

Real ear-worm and fun burst of energy, no idea why they put it so late in the album

Time Skiffs, as a symptom

[evan6032]

Decided to revisit this today while I was golfing. Walker is such a bop. Really an amazing glow up from the 2019 live versions to the studio

[NightlifeMingus]

Fovrodi wrote:

try:

1. Prester John
2. We Go Back
3. Dragon Slayer
4. Strung With Everything
5. Royal and Desire
6. Cherokee
7. Car Keys
8. Passerby
9. Walker

I tried this out and it might have ruined the original for me. love the pacing here, really enjoyed walker as a Derek-esque lift at the end (no shade to R&D, which is a great closer for its own reasons)

[foxtrot]

Prester definitely works exceptionally well as an opener.

[Stan]

Yeah, Fov's tracklisting really freshened this one up for me. I think it flows way better. I've also mentioned the odd sequencing of the ambient coda of PJ then *pause* then a separate ambient intro to SWE. I can't see how that works on any conceptual or musical level. I can accept that some people may like it or get used to it but I can't even see how it happened. I also don't even see why SWE needs an ambient intro. It adds nothing to an already long song and doesn't even set the tone. If it's there to give contrast to the bouncy opening when the song kicks in, well, again, the outro to PJ works perfectly for that. It's a decision I simply don't understand and it feels like a goof.

[muark]

Yeah I mean I prefer the Strung intro much more than the Prester outro but completely agree. Tbh besides strung all of the ambient interludes that are tacked on are pretty useless and don’t do anything for me.

[foxtrot]

No way! Walker outro add on is rad! Love the way the Cherokee outro works too.

Agree that the PJ one is definitely the least engaging of the bunch though.

[dansemanatee]

Walker outro is one of the best moments of the album for me. Maybe the best honestly.

[headroom)))]

Stan wrote:

I also don't even see why SWE needs an ambient intro. It adds nothing to an already long song and doesn't even set the tone. If it's there to give contrast to the bouncy opening when the song kicks in, well, again, the outro to PJ works perfectly for that. It's a decision I simply don't understand and it feels like a goof.

I kinda know what you mean in terms of there being a really long floaty instrumental passage between Prester and SWE. But, i think the intro to SWE is super crucial to the immediate hit of music. The tempo change from the bendy dreamy guitars into the fast twangy guitars is super cool. So I'd vote to cut out the Prester outro and long live the SWE intro. Honestly, I could never really get into Prester John, and skip it most of the times.

But while i'm on my pedestal, the hollering ending of SWE is kinda whack. I'm like whyyyyy isn't there more exciting drumming during this part. It feels disparately needing something to spice it up from the repetition. But this might be cuz I don't connect with that melody at all, so it sounds extra long.

Also Walker outro is BEAUTIFUL. It sounds like avey and panda singing two different voice memos in their phones and mixing them together. It sounds hella intimate, like they're sharing a page from their diaries.

200 Pages!! Woop Woop!!