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"Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
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When I saw him play sunset live in 2018 he sang this refrain over the ending that kinda switches around some of the earlier lyrics, it was “to pay to play to black out anyway” over and over and I always sing that part when I listen to it. are there any boots of him doing that at other shows?
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I think Skiffs is 5 stars but I also think that dio is right.
Defeat/Magicians/SC/Kings > Slayer/SWE/Cherokee/Passerby/WGB
Broke/Gem > Car Keys/Walker
Genies > Prester
Stride > R&D
Which really blows my mind. IIN is going to rival their golden era and is pretty much guaranteed to be a classic. My level of anticipation is higher than it has been for any new release (by any band) since MPP.
Defeat/Magicians/SC/Kings > Slayer/SWE/Cherokee/Passerby/WGB
Broke/Gem > Car Keys/Walker
Genies > Prester
Stride > R&D
Which really blows my mind. IIN is going to rival their golden era and is pretty much guaranteed to be a classic. My level of anticipation is higher than it has been for any new release (by any band) since MPP.
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Sunset is great of course, especially the verses. I also wanna shout out living in the after, that song is constantly in my head
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Band: Magicians, Prester John, Broke Zodiac, Royal (couldn’t pick 3 out of these)
Panda Bear: In My Body, Crescendo, I Know I Don’t Know
Avey Tare: Midnight Special, Hey Bog, Lips at Night
Panda Bear: In My Body, Crescendo, I Know I Don’t Know
Avey Tare: Midnight Special, Hey Bog, Lips at Night
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V hard to stop listening to Soul Cap when it just keeps getting better everytime I return to it. It's in that magic phase of new AC studio recordings where I keep unbelievably discovering new details. Rest of the album is going to be a damn feast.
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The vocals at the end of Soul remind me a lot of the stuff they would do with Sung Tongs songs live during the MPP era, like that "wawawawawa" break in leaf house.
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Woo! panda bear remix is a great pick, i forgot about that song, so fuckin good
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Only slightly related to the above but I wish Boneless was on Spotify. I’ve got a playlist of all Panda’s random bits and it’s a big hole!
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quick studio clip (peep questlove in the comments)
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvTDCnJO ... I2Ng%3D%3D
also based on that last syllable which sounds more like "found" (the lyric in 2021), i guess avey changed that line to "what have we become" in the studio after recording
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvTDCnJO ... I2Ng%3D%3D
also based on that last syllable which sounds more like "found" (the lyric in 2021), i guess avey changed that line to "what have we become" in the studio after recording
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So sick. I'd love more recording session footage/more behind-the-scenes insights like Russ' note about flipping the tape upside down to get reverse reverb. It looks like this album was a joy to record and hopefully that's what a lot of the press cycle will revolve around instead of them mostly having to talk about Music Box again lol. Also love the Deak head bob
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Glad to see there’s more Midnight Special lovers out there. That’s probably gotta be my #1 Avey song.
And now I am having a dilemma. I preordered the purple vinyl, but the orange one also looks so damn good. I’m contemplating whether I should buy it or not.
And now I am having a dilemma. I preordered the purple vinyl, but the orange one also looks so damn good. I’m contemplating whether I should buy it or not.
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Slippi's Applesauce wrote:
quick studio clip (peep questlove in the comments)
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvTDCnJO ... I2Ng%3D%3D
also based on that last syllable which sounds more like "found" (the lyric in 2021), i guess avey changed that line to "what have we become" in the studio after recording
oh wow that's fascinating. we almost ended up with "there was not serpent the water the rainbow the werewolf that they found" as the immortalized lyric rather than a relative blip in the song's history.
i think it's funny that after recording it as "crawling from the serpent" he changed it back again to "there was not a serpent" for the 2022 live shows. i wonder if he got sheepish about it at some point after enough changes since deak and panda had to be singing the same words as him. like
"uh, guys, i was thinking maybe, uh..."
"defeat lyrics again?"
"no! ...yes."
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also i'd previously said that prester john is the best non-IIN AC song of the past five years but if i'm being honest about what i enjoy listening to most then i would say it's probably Bug Mall. that thing is just buzzing with creativity even if it is basically just a bunch of ambient sketches stitched together
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油の男 wrote:blindmowing wrote:on the topic, i guess i've played AC enough for my wife that when i play Feels she thinks it's normal enough that when her very conservative rural midwest parents come over, she says "play Feels i think they'd like it"
Conservative rural guy here, love Feels, was my first album. Love all AnCo albums. It's just good vibes.
im gonna need some explanation here,
conservative meaning what?
do you hate brown people and gay people?
Jeez.
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I can’t stop thinking about this album. I’m a 42 year old father of three with a busy life etc but I can’t stop thinking about this album.
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I can’t wait to finally see this band with DEAKIN
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I can’t wait to finally see this band with DEAKIN
it's a totally different band with that guy, you MAY NOT LIKE IT
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I’ve listened to SC once but it was such a glorious first listen my hopes for this record are sky high. Like foxtrot, this is the most hyped I’ve been since MPP… easily. I was hyped for Chz but didn’t like the source material as much. The total unknown of PW was super cool but it came during a time I was less into AC again. The 2019 boots instantly put me back into an AC obsessive phase and my love for this band returned to 00s levels with added depth / appreciation for their past and trajectory that their music means more to me now than ever… so ya, this is shaping up to be a classic during a period of my life where I’ve come to love AC with a thicker and wider depth… so this is feeling pretty monumental to me.
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Was on vacation for the last week and a half and have a question about the Defeat single -- I see there's a 12" listed on Domino and Bandcamp, did those truly already sellout or have they not been up for pre-order sale yet?
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@utensilvirus, I think it did sell out because I ordered mine the day it came out and got a confirmation and everything.
Also, wish I didn't jump the gun and get the purple IIN vinyl, shit kinda looks like Barney smh. If anyone wants to trade for a black vinyl, PM me. I'll also throw in an extra copy of that Avey Pharmacy EP if you want.
Also, wish I didn't jump the gun and get the purple IIN vinyl, shit kinda looks like Barney smh. If anyone wants to trade for a black vinyl, PM me. I'll also throw in an extra copy of that Avey Pharmacy EP if you want.
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allowed myself another listen of SC. trying to limit myself but i’m way too hyped. nothing new to say: this album is going to sound so good. i’m already astounded by the details that keep revealing themselves in just this one song, and i can’t believe it is only the first track of the longest AC studio album (and we haven’t even heard the intro for the studio version!)
unbelievably hyped. echoing what everyone said, I’m thinking about it constantly. it’s one of those things on the horizon i remind myself of when I’m having a rough day and need something to keep me going
curious what other people make of the line “goodbye William Tell” — aside from the famous apple scene, my main association with William Tell is Rossini’s overture. i have no idea what Dave is getting at with this line haha
unbelievably hyped. echoing what everyone said, I’m thinking about it constantly. it’s one of those things on the horizon i remind myself of when I’m having a rough day and need something to keep me going
curious what other people make of the line “goodbye William Tell” — aside from the famous apple scene, my main association with William Tell is Rossini’s overture. i have no idea what Dave is getting at with this line haha
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allowed myself another listen of SC. trying to limit myself but i’m way too hyped. nothing new to say: this album is going to sound so good. i’m already astounded by the details that keep revealing themselves in just this one song, and i can’t believe it is only the first track of the longest AC studio album (and we haven’t even heard the intro for the studio version!)
unbelievably hyped. echoing what everyone said, I’m thinking about it constantly. it’s one of those things on the horizon i remind myself of when I’m having a rough day and need something to keep me going
curious what other people make of the line “goodbye William Tell” — aside from the famous apple scene, my main association with William Tell is Rossini’s overture. i have no idea what Dave is getting at with this line haha
I think he's using William Tell as an overarching idea of someone who is courageous and can save something. So goodbye William Tell is like losing courage.
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wilandhugs wrote:
NightlifeMingus wrote:allowed myself another listen of SC. trying to limit myself but i’m way too hyped. nothing new to say: this album is going to sound so good. i’m already astounded by the details that keep revealing themselves in just this one song, and i can’t believe it is only the first track of the longest AC studio album (and we haven’t even heard the intro for the studio version!)
unbelievably hyped. echoing what everyone said, I’m thinking about it constantly. it’s one of those things on the horizon i remind myself of when I’m having a rough day and need something to keep me going
curious what other people make of the line “goodbye William Tell” — aside from the famous apple scene, my main association with William Tell is Rossini’s overture. i have no idea what Dave is getting at with this line haha
I think he's using William Tell as an overarching idea of someone who is courageous and can save something. So goodbye William Tell is like losing courage.
interesting — the legend of Tell does fit in with the overarching medieval vibe/theme of these songs
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Yeh, I think it’s about losing your ability resist.
Blindmowing - I feel exactly the same way!
Blindmowing - I feel exactly the same way!
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I’m So happy to wave goodbye to this era. Isn’t it Now?? These songs got me thru these past years and I have the words Time Skiffs tattooed on me. I’m ready for the next era and to the new feels
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@utensilvirus, I think it did sell out because I ordered mine the day it came out and got a confirmation and everything.
Also, wish I didn't jump the gun and get the purple IIN vinyl, shit kinda looks like Barney smh. If anyone wants to trade for a black vinyl, PM me. I'll also throw in an extra copy of that Avey Pharmacy EP if you want.
if you want a color vinyl version still there's also tangerine being sold by Rough Trade. If you ordered through Domino you might be able to contact them about cornpilling.
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I freaking ordered this together with reset in dub so I won't get to listen on my big plastic circles until December!!!
It's ok though I also ordered the defeat single so that's sweet. Still in stock last I checked on the UK domino store, if any US heads are desparate
It's ok though I also ordered the defeat single so that's sweet. Still in stock last I checked on the UK domino store, if any US heads are desparate
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ok im ready for the freebird
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ok im ready for the freebird
yea if someone wants to drop it now i wont have to go on autopilot for the month of august. i have some really important stuff to take care of and would rather hear it sooner
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I have an inexplicable feeling that this will freebird within the month. That apple music download thing was a good lead but doubt it will eventuate.
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I do NOT want this to freebird. This is an autumn album. Deserves to be heard first on its intended date when the leaves are changing colour for those in the northern hemisphere. For those in the south, hope it links up with spring pretty well too!
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Don't want to will anything to happen, but if it does freebird I hope it's a quality rip and all of the album. In good faith I will pre-order the vinyl if it does and I don't even have a record player
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blindmowing wrote:
I do NOT want this to freebird. This is an autumn album. Deserves to be heard first on its intended date when the leaves are changing colour for those in the northern hemisphere. For those in the south, hope it links up with spring pretty well too!
agreed, and also i do not want to deal with the dilemma of whether or not to listen to it because i’m not sure i have the strength to resist
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I will hammer any old dogshit freebird same as ever
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I will hammer any old dogshit freebird same as ever
Same. Life’s too short.
AC is my drug of choice and I’ll smash any dirty little baggy into my system.
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As always I'd feel bad for the band but I got a 9 hour drive to do next month I think this thing would sound real good in my car
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scrambledgreggs wrote:
it's gonna freebird like 3 days early and be a bad vinyl rip from some random reddit user as always
lol...ya
i'm with y'all though, if this freebirds i absolutely WILL listen, don't get me wrong. when it comes to AC, my self-control is non-existent. i don't want it to freebird though...for the band's sake and for timing's sake, right after i get back from upstate new york enjoying woodsist fest and the lakes and forest. to get home, smell the autumn leaves, take a walk in the quiet of the day and listen to AC's next masterpiece...oh, it would be perfect.
of course though, instead of this idyllic first listen on the band's intended day of listening, i surely will be listening to a shitty vinyl rip of this on shitty headphones during my lunchbreak on a bad mood day and i'm gonna come on here and freak out with the rest of y'all
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scrambledgreggs wrote:
it's gonna freebird like 3 days early and be a bad vinyl rip from some random reddit user as always
"guys how do I rip this" one track, the absolute dirtiest LP needle you've ever heard, there will be a skip, it'll be 192kbps, and your friend will have this rip in their library for the next 15 years
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