[Hellomark]

Will be expecting an extra slow and mournful 40 minute version of Queen in My Pictures for the EU shows coming up.

[hedgecore]

They're gonna piss on her picture, all four at once

[captainlunatic]

At the forums they were confused if we cared about the Queen

[Fovrodi]

Deakin is going to dedicate a performance of Royal & Desire to HM

[Stan]

I honestly feel like I'm in an alternate reality. I can understand that someone may be a Royalist, though I can't understand why, but for people to be openly weeping and bawling that a 96yo stranger has passed away, I genuinely can't understand where that comes from. I don't think it's performative either outside of the odd TV wanker or social media twat. It's like a collective psychosis or something. I have to get it off my chest here because I've been staggered at how many people I work with and am friends with are apparently devastated by this. At least I can have a fucking good laugh with my wife and get it all out of our system but we're off to a party later and even though they're some of our best friends and really fucking sound in basically every way, I know they're really upset about it and I will struggle to empathise for more than a few minutes. I won't take the piss but I'll get bored of nodding and frowning with faux-sincerity as they describe their heartache. As I say, it makes me sound like a bastard but it's like a form of mass delusion. All the talk of the family 'working' and 'serving the country' and this shit blows my mind. I don't consider being driven somewhere, shaking hands with a few people and saying hello is work. Before I was 25, I was a construction worker, barman, delivery driver, removals man, data entry, glazer, factory production line. That's work. It's like fucking culturally ingrained Stockholm Syndrome.

[Fovrodi]

[Tropic]

The people that think and feel that way genuinely live in a different fucking world to the rest of us.

[roopn]

I'm with you stan, sorry you're surrounded by that

[dansemanatee]

Stan wrote:

I honestly feel like I'm in an alternate reality. I can understand that someone may be a Royalist, though I can't understand why, but for people to be openly weeping and bawling that a 96yo stranger has passed away, I genuinely can't understand where that comes from. I don't think it's performative either outside of the odd TV wanker or social media twat. It's like a collective psychosis or something. I have to get it off my chest here because I've been staggered at how many people I work with and am friends with are apparently devastated by this. At least I can have a fucking good laugh with my wife and get it all out of our system but we're off to a party later and even though they're some of our best friends and really fucking sound in basically every way, I know they're really upset about it and I will struggle to empathise for more than a few minutes. I won't take the piss but I'll get bored of nodding and frowning with faux-sincerity as they describe their heartache. As I say, it makes me sound like a bastard but it's like a form of mass delusion. All the talk of the family 'working' and 'serving the country' and this shit blows my mind. I don't consider being driven somewhere, shaking hands with a few people and saying hello is work. Before I was 25, I was a construction worker, barman, delivery driver, removals man, data entry, glazer, factory production line. That's work. It's like fucking culturally ingrained Stockholm Syndrome.

I'm Irish this was good news for me

[wilandhugs]

I wore my Queen is Dead shirt and got some dirty looks on the subway yesterday-- like didn't we fight a whole revolution to get away from this shit man...

[headroom)))]

Great to hear perspective of those of you in England and EU. I live in the bay area in California and I feel all my friends don't care, and a lot are actually happy she's dead and are sharing articles/post of human suffering caused by the British Empire. I feel weird being psyched about the death of an old lady, but i get the hatred for the imperialism.
Collective grief is a really unique feeling. The last time I felt that was when Kobe Bryant died. There was a heaviness in the air in public spaces that was palpable. He was a hero to many people and nobody thought he would die so young. My gf's grandma was telling me of the day that John F. Kennedy got assassinated and how sad and devastated everyone was. She said it would've been like if Obama got killed during his term. I guess that if someone is a public figure in your life for as long as you can remember, there's a feeling of loss when they die. I was kinda sad when Alex Trebec of Jeopardy died. So I think I can kinda get it? But also, fuck that family, Harry knows. He got a mixed baddie and moved to LA.

[rohcti]

Stan wrote:

I don't consider being driven somewhere, shaking hands with a few people and saying hello is work. Before I was 25, I was a construction worker, barman, delivery driver, removals man, data entry, glazer, factory production line. That's work. It's like fucking culturally ingrained Stockholm Syndrome.

Interesting hearing your perspective. It's pretty hilarious hearing about her 'service' and looking up pictures of her all decked out in jewels and a crown, while living in a palace that were essentially given to her by the public. It seems gross

[rohcti]

Anyway I don't know what I'm talking about with the queen, but I do know from AC's insta that Strawberry Jam is 15 this week. Thoughts?

[dansemanatee]

kind of impossible for me to pick a favorite album from them but if I had to as of rn it'd have to be sj. it manages to be simultaneously some of the most bat shit crazy music and so damn cohesive at the same. there's not a second wasted on this thing and it flows together so well. it's insane that this whole album was conceptualized cause av saw a package of jam on an airplane and was like "hey what if we made our next album sound like this".

[scrambledgreggs]

I just listened to it the other day not realizing a major anniversary was coming up! still such an incredible and emotional album

[captainlunatic]

dansemanatee wrote:

kind of impossible for me to pick a favorite album from them but if I had to as of rn it'd have to be sj. it manages to be simultaneously some of the most bat shit crazy music and so damn cohesive at the same. there's not a second wasted on this thing and it flows together so well. it's insane that this whole album was conceptualized cause av saw a package of jam on an airplane and was like "hey what if we made our next album sound like this".

That was PB

[MrAirplane]

also i thought the airplane story was only related to naming the album, not conceptualizing it at the beginning

[Tropic]

I believe he saw the jam on a flight and said that the record should be mixed/mastered/whatever to sound like the jam looks. Which they did, then naming the album after the jam. Glad the queen is dead

[wilandhugs]

Tropic wrote:

I believe he saw the jam on a flight and said that the record should be mixed/mastered/whatever to sound like the jam looks. Which they did, then naming the album after the jam. Glad the queen is dead

Yeah this is the input I was gonna add. I believe most of the songs already existed and were performed live, I think the idea came about in 06 prior to the recording sessions so the influence began there. But in a way the original guy is right, cuz a lot of those earlier songs were total skeletons in 05/early 06 and the 'meaning' to the band hadn't been revealed yet if that's the case.

[Fovrodi]

Avey: Noah [Lennox, aka Panda Bear] saw the jam packet on a flight and we decided that's exactly what we wanted the record to sound like. The image came through working on the songs and it just seemed to make sense as it had a futuristic quality to it and at the time we wanted to make forward-thinking songs. It's very much a post-Feels record - it's a little more inward, where we were almost reassessing what was going on in our lives. This record is about finding positivity and knowing that every thing we do together is special.

https://spinsnneedles.blogspot.com/2007 ... ctive.html

[Stan]

Ugh still my gut feeling favourite album by them, extraordinary collection of diverse, cohesive songs. Almost underrated these days, I'd say. SJ, WC & Safer. Fuck off come on. Wow.

[Hellomark]

Fireworks, Street Flash and Safer is like this sacred trifecta of perfect, too good for this wretched Earth songs. Nothing is better.

[captainlunatic]

I think SJ might be their most successful translation from live to studio, or rather the biggest improvement (in terms of how they sounded in '06 to on the album)

I still wanna hear that first scrapped mix though

[Tropic]

[youtube]https://youtu.be/kjjjX30MjAo[/youtube]

Plaid shout us out

[Tropic]

Some mod fix that for me

[dio]

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/m ... 0579535504

Yal seent the REAL CA shoutout from avey on this pod with geo talking about the Dead. ?

[Stan]

What he say? I cbf listening to an interview but appreciate the heads up.

[dio]

usual narrative of dave and brian met basically cuz of wearing Dead shirts at school and then some dude in the cafeteria turned them onto bootlegs for first time and yadda yadda. But Dave mentions that CA was basically HIS idea cuz he told a fan to make a place to trade files. Didn't mention CA by name but he said it was a community that is "still going"

i thought Demarco's interview before the AC segment was good too

[headroom)))]

Yeah, good interview with all of them. I can definitely see the Dead influence on the live bootleg sharing. This community is awesome, super blessed to have it! Thank all y'all.

[andthephantom]

The Crestone score came out three weeks before the film release. The Inspection is due out November 18. If the Crestone timing is followed here (not saying it will be, just dreaming) that would give us The Inspection score around Halloween. If we get a taste of something before the Europe shows, I’m betting this is it.

[awesome]

wtf how had i never heard this before

[tobinge]

this is my new atiba song. a full version probably doesn't exist given the format of the show doing covers of the same song each episode but i want to dream.

[dio]

what the hell is that. Is it the closer for every episode? Such a weird vibe lol, panda be crazy

[Fovrodi]

would sj be a stronger album if they swapped cobwebs in for winter wonderland

[headroom)))]

Fovrodi wrote:

would sj be a stronger album if they swapped cobwebs in for winter wonderland

Iono bout that never been too big on cobwebs. But If they closed it with Safer and threw in Water Curses and Street Flash in there, it might contend with the holy trifecta of Sung Tongs, Feels, Person Pitch. Insane how much magic came out of their world from 2004-2007.

[scrambledgreggs]

no the SJ sequencing is already perfect. everything in its right place

[captainlunatic]

SJ is perfect as-is EXCEPT they should've made it a single LP or made proper side endings between Chores and FRG and WW and CC, not that half-assed fade-out bullshit where you can hear the track on the next side coming in

[Daffy Duck]

That song ‘brown thrasher’ from the ‘for the birds’ compilation should be coming out any day now. Anyone know when the next volume is supposed to come out?

[Cooper]

SJ sequencing has always been a beacon of confidence in terms of creative honesty. Obviously would’ve been epic to have safer as the ender but it wouldn’t have fit 100%

[dansemanatee]

sj has maybe the best pacing out of any album I've listened to. flows so perfectly. love safer but glad its not the closer, wouldn't fit at all and its also probably my least favorite sj era song. derek is a great song to begin with but in the context of the album its such a glorious closer. also winter wonderland is probably in my top three on the album i wouldn't trade it for anything