[blindmowing]

Sonic boom wrote:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Chz0FXoMUF8/

Radio show w OG versions vs the Reset kids xp

WOW! What a treat!!! looking forward to it

recently got into your Experimental Audio Research all stars collab project ... The Köner Experiment is excellent

[Sonic boom]

blindmowing wrote:

Sonic boom wrote:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Chz0FXoMUF8/

Radio show w OG versions vs the Reset kids xp

WOW! What a treat!!! looking forward to it

recently got into your Experimental Audio Research all stars collab project ... The Köner Experiment is excellent

Thank you . That's kind . The Koner Experiment is one of my faves . All the credit really goes to Thomas Koner . I just had the idea & gave him stuff to chew on . I remember him saying he had a quantum leap moment with that project . It really is a nice LP . Was going to be on Mille Plateau records originally .

[hypo's]

hey maybe this has been answered before but

what's the story with the cover art? it's perfect

[roopn]

hypo's wrote:

hey maybe this has been answered before but

what's the story with the cover art? it's perfect

Marco Papiro, who also did pbvsgr, all things being equal, several more sonic boom/spacemen 3 projects and others
https://papiro.ch/

[Sonic boom]

roopn wrote:

hypo's wrote:

hey maybe this has been answered before but

what's the story with the cover art? it's perfect

Marco Papiro, who also did pbvsgr, all things being equal, several more sonic boom/spacemen 3 projects and others
https://papiro.ch/

Yeah , Marco Papiro is our buddy from Basel . He makes cool records too.... He did all the sleeves for EPs etc in the PBvsGR era . His work is usually based around abstracted letter forms . He created the "RESET" typeface that's used on the sleeve . I like it that some people don't see that it says RESET on the cover , though I don't quite understand why .......

I really love what he did for the sleeve too...... The colour palette is perfect for the record . Marco heard the stuff before he set on in & one of the briefs was that it should look like something for party supplies or a kids party , but maybe from the 50s or 60s or 70s when the print tended to be more basic & simple & blocky .

The actual sleeve has a nice texture . We used the reverse side of the board with a special print finish . He did an awesome lyric fold out too with a poster on the back . I did'nt see a finished copy yet , but I have a test sleeve & it's awesome.

Noah & Marco both really like abstract & unusual typefaces too & Marco nearly always builds his own . I believe much of his work is usually for the Pharmaceutical companies like Sandoz & Bayer who have operations in Basel . But for joy & love he does stuff for records & live shows.
The Swiss of course have a long & deep history with printing & typefaces.....though Marco is originally from Sicily .....Swisscilian typeface mafia..... : )

Here's his website https://papiro.ch

[roopn]

Wow awesome to know so much more about him, thanks!
And I'm excited to hear that the print is nice on the LP sleeve. Makes such a difference when a little thought gets put in. And excited to see the lyric sheet too

[rohcti]

Sonic boom wrote:

Swisscilian typeface mafia..... : )

Lol nice.
Thanks for the info, very interesting

[Sonic boom]

roopn wrote:

Wow awesome to know so much more about him, thanks!
And I'm excited to hear that the print is nice on the LP sleeve. Makes such a difference when a little thought gets put in. And excited to see the lyric sheet too

Yeah . A lot of thought went into it . We looked at many different recycled possibilities , but decided the best approach was to use normal stock elements in an unusual way . We believe keeping the manufacturing costs low but then offsetting each copy achieves the aim more efficiently . Recycling is an important part of the equation , but the work EarthIsland.org do in repair is a really important part too . Stemming our destruction & repairing our planet to hopefully be passed on to our children in a state more fitting .

We put a lot of research behind what we're doing . It's possible to still do nice things without doing crazy if you spendtime researching the possibilities and figuring how they can be structured to create something impactful from basic ingredients .

[hypo's]

Sonic boom wrote:

roopn wrote:

hypo's wrote:

hey maybe this has been answered before but

what's the story with the cover art? it's perfect

Marco Papiro, who also did pbvsgr, all things being equal, several more sonic boom/spacemen 3 projects and others
https://papiro.ch/

Yeah , Marco Papiro is our buddy from Basel . He makes cool records too.... He did all the sleeves for EPs etc in the PBvsGR era . His work is usually based around abstracted letter forms . He created the "RESET" typeface that's used on the sleeve . I like it that some people don't see that it says RESET on the cover , though I don't quite understand why .......

I really love what he did for the sleeve too...... The colour palette is perfect for the record . Marco heard the stuff before he set on in & one of the briefs was that it should look like something for party supplies or a kids party , but maybe from the 50s or 60s or 70s when the print tended to be more basic & simple & blocky .

The actual sleeve has a nice texture . We used the reverse side of the board with a special print finish . He did an awesome lyric fold out too with a poster on the back . I did'nt see a finished copy yet , but I have a test sleeve & it's awesome.

Noah & Marco both really like abstract & unusual typefaces too & Marco nearly always builds his own . I believe much of his work is usually for the Pharmaceutical companies like Sandoz & Bayer who have operations in Basel . But for joy & love he does stuff for records & live shows.
The Swiss of course have a long & deep history with printing & typefaces.....though Marco is originally from Sicily .....Swisscilian typeface mafia..... : )

Here's his website https://papiro.ch

ty for response, still need to buy the physical LP

[tdegenaro]

Pete did Marco also do the inner sleeve for PBVSGR with the grim reaper saying "I know not what tomorrow will bring"? that's one of my all time favorite pieces of album artwork period.

[Sonic boom]

tdegenaro wrote:

Pete did Marco also do the inner sleeve for PBVSGR with the grim reaper saying "I know not what tomorrow will bring"? that's one of my all time favorite pieces of album artwork period.

The drawing ? Those we're by a guy from Lisbon called Hugo Oliveira .

[Fovrodi]

Sonic how do you feel about fungi in general? Plant? Animal? Mineral? Fascinating form of life, first to form on land which is a recent development for me

[Sonic boom]

Fovrodi wrote:

Sonic how do you feel about fungi in general? Plant? Animal? Mineral? Fascinating form of life, first to form on land which is a recent development for me

AnimalVegetableMIneral Collective ? All are equal to me . But I can be a fun-gi on a good day.... : )

I think they've been an overlooked key element . They were only re-classified as not being a plant in 1969 (in my lifetime.....) . Our understanding of mycelium is also very recent . The largest living organism on our planet I believe.....
I also think their symbiosis with algae & bacteria that results in Lichens might also be key . I saw they've found our immunity to antibiotics can be reset using algae , making the antibiotics become super effective again.
If every living creature on this planet (and many minerals) are thought to be the progeny of and share DNA collective with fungi then it is hard to imagine the cure for all our ills does not lie within that massive kingdom .For our bodies & our minds .
They have found fungi that eats plastic and leaves no toxic byproducts . They might be the answer to a lot of things...
Drug companies like "plants" with alkaloid contents , and fungi have them....the science is moving really awesomely fast now with computer connectivity & more people working together as opposed to separately . Seeing & sharing other disciplines always informs your own ....

Sometimes there's not mush room for a fun-gi , but I always got space : )

[Tropic]

Great question and answer

[wilandhugs]

Sonic boom wrote:

Fovrodi wrote:

Sonic how do you feel about fungi in general? Plant? Animal? Mineral? Fascinating form of life, first to form on land which is a recent development for me

AnimalVegetableMIneral Collective ? All are equal to me . But I can be a fun-gi on a good day.... : )

I think they've been an overlooked key element . They were only re-classified as not being a plant in 1969 (in my lifetime.....) . Our understanding of mycelium is also very recent . The largest living organism on our planet I believe.....
I also think their symbiosis with algae & bacteria that results in Lichens might also be key . I saw they've found our immunity to antibiotics can be reset using algae , making the antibiotics become super effective again.
If every living creature on this planet (and many minerals) are thought to be the progeny of and share DNA collective with fungi then it is hard to imagine the cure for all our ills does not lie within that massive kingdom .For our bodies & our minds .
They have found fungi that eats plastic and leaves no toxic byproducts . They might be the answer to a lot of things...
Drug companies like "plants" with alkaloid contents , and fungi have them....the science is moving really awesomely fast now with computer connectivity & more people working together as opposed to separately . Seeing & sharing other disciplines always informs your own ....

Sometimes there's not mush room for a fun-gi , but I always got space : )

Awesome analysis. Didn't know that about algae, Ami-need-ta read some more into that!!

[hypo's]

fun fact: fungi are more closely related to animals than plants

everybody watch Fantastic Fungi (docu) and check out all of the TED talks that Paul Stamets has done, he's an inspiration

mycology and phycology ftw, if I ever go to grad school it will be for something phycological, algae is the fucking coolest, I could stare at Volvox all day long

https://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpa ... -14433403/ really neat peak into potential origins of multicellularity, it's pretty psychedelic

terence mckenna has some great writings about fungi as well but it's more spiritual/conjectural than scientific, still worthwhile imo

[Fovrodi]

Very thoughtful and lovely response Mr. Boom!

hypo's wrote:

fun fact: fungi are more closely related to animals than plants

everybody watch Fantastic Fungi (docu) and check out all of the TED talks that Paul Stamets has done, he's an inspiration

mycology and phycology ftw, if I ever go to grab school it will be for something phycological, algae is the fucking coolest

AC put his book Mycelium Running on their ATP Bookclub, turned me onto a fascinating interview with him, TED talk is really good too

[grundletron3030]

Really truly loving this album, been jamming it on the regular. Such good vibes.

Had to hop on here to ask one question: does anyone else think of "Swingtown" by Steve Miller Band everytime they listen to "Gettin' to the Point"? Once I hear it, I can't unhear it...they are in the same key for goodness sake! Take a listen, particular the vocal entry around 40 seconds in...

Someone tell me I'm not crazy.

[hypo's]

I hear it

[foxtrot]

definitely hear it

[rohcti]

I'm in the bathroom, I hear it

[jetski]

^lol

wow I have not heard this song in forever but I can totally hear that, Im gonna have to mash em up

[Sonic boom]

grundletron3030 wrote:

Really truly loving this album, been jamming it on the regular. Such good vibes.

Had to hop on here to ask one question: does anyone else think of "Swingtown" by Steve Miller Band everytime they listen to "Gettin' to the Point"? Once I hear it, I can't unhear it...they are in the same key for goodness sake! Take a listen, particular the vocal entry around 40 seconds in...

Someone tell me I'm not crazy.

you are crazy . but nice crazy . I heard people say Queen Bitch .....I think that Eddie Cochran riff is a key evolutionary trail starter though .

[grundletron3030]

Sonic boom wrote:

grundletron3030 wrote:

Really truly loving this album, been jamming it on the regular. Such good vibes.

Had to hop on here to ask one question: does anyone else think of "Swingtown" by Steve Miller Band everytime they listen to "Gettin' to the Point"? Once I hear it, I can't unhear it...they are in the same key for goodness sake! Take a listen, particular the vocal entry around 40 seconds in...

Someone tell me I'm not crazy.

you are crazy . but nice crazy . I heard people say Queen Bitch .....I think that Eddie Cochran riff is a key evolutionary trail starter though .

Thank you Petek, and thanks again for crafting such tasty morsels for all of us, both on the album with Noah and here in the chats. Definitely hear some Queen Bitch too. Sussing out the connections and sonic genealogy is always part of the fun, but even more so with this gem of a record.

[hedgecore]

woop woop - https://tapeop.com/podcast/episode-72-p ... onic-boom/

[Fovrodi]

Pete are there any plans to tease or compile the unused loops?

I know you boys have already shared so much, can't help but get greedy

[roopn]

sweet interview

[Sonic boom]

Fovrodi wrote:

Pete are there any plans to tease or compile the unused loops?

I know you boys have already shared so much, can't help but get greedy

The ones we didn't use ? From the LP or otherwise ?

Some are so good....I have a faint dream they might get used , so sitting on those seeds still...

But these 3 here in the d/l below yr welcome to .
We will rock you mighta be expecting the unreasonable ..... : )
Good to keep the parameters wide early on...

https://we.tl/t-C6p1BgLpbz

[LeadHat]

oh man that devo auto mow-down loop rules !! thanks for these lil glimpses! hearing y'all over those heavier rock loops would be a real mind bender

[Sonic boom]

LeadHat wrote:

oh man that devo auto mow-down loop rules !! thanks for these lil glimpses! hearing y'all over those heavier rock loops would be a real mind bender

yeah.... has a tone of sick loops u can grab in these guy .




had it in my head since 79 when i bought this on a bootleg EP . this version of Blockhead is great too .



Here's the Ltn Pigeon one too



The Queen one is the outro not the intro too ....that was the only time ...

[Fovrodi]

Thank you! Mow down loop sounds like Madlib to me, never heard that Devo song before

[tdegenaro]

Just wanted to say I finally, finally, finally got in the right headspace with the right headphones to really listen to this album. what a tremendous, incredible album. the LP cuts, the instrumentals, those three loops you just shared - boom - this is a masterpiece. thank you thank you thank you.

[Stan]

Still playing this every other day, sometimes more, excellent album, incredibly consistent and feels rich after sitting with it for a while now, maybe maybe not far behind PP for me as best PB non-AC release. My current favourite elements are the toytown piano/synth lines, deceptively simple and very beautiful. Production and arrangements are also fucking gold, so well balanced and satisfying.

[hypo's]

I've listened to reset 2x as much as time skiffs at this point

[Dallou]

hypo's wrote:

I've listened to reset 2x as much as time skiffs at this point

at least

I don't get tired of it, I listen to it the same way I listen PP or Feels or Down There. Feels like a classic AC related album. It already is part of the family.

[Sonic boom]

Stan wrote:

Still playing this every other day, sometimes more, excellent album, incredibly consistent and feels rich after sitting with it for a while now, maybe maybe not far behind PP for me as best PB non-AC release. My current favourite elements are the toytown piano/synth lines, deceptively simple and very beautiful. Production and arrangements are also fucking gold, so well balanced and satisfying.

tdegenaro wrote:

Just wanted to say I finally, finally, finally got in the right headspace with the right headphones to really listen to this album. what a tremendous, incredible album. the LP cuts, the instrumentals, those three loops you just shared - boom - this is a masterpiece. thank you thank you thank you.

hypo's wrote:

I've listened to reset 2x as much as time skiffs at this point

Dallou wrote:

hypo's wrote:

I've listened to reset 2x as much as time skiffs at this point

at least
I don't get tired of it, I listen to it the same way I listen PP or Feels or Down There. Feels like a classic AC related album. It already is part of the family.

Nice . Psyched to read it's settling in .Still cooking up some spells here for future magic : )
This is a sort of a Bi Release - The November vinyl release is gonna be a spot for sure ...still have Lucas' amazing video too...
Comparisons might be unfair .I think Time Skiffs had challenges for the AC guys in that they didn't want to record it remotely , but with the big C there was little choice . I think it was a first for them . I actually thought it was a great way to change out habits of working in certain ways . I thought they pulled it off .
Reset was kind of built for the times because it wasn't started (unlike TS) until after the pandemic had landed . It's built from different perspectives & fabrics . Noah & I got to surf the vibes over long liquid nights of chicken and chatting . I think it put a second focus lense on our binocular thinking & that served us well .
I would have gone stark raving super dingbat crazy beyond the crazy I am & the extra crazy I then felt without Noah & his family & a few other friends & loved ones we surfed with. Was fucking tough but way improved . Even in tough times , trying to just bust thru against the apparent odds really helps . If you force your thinking down the right pathways those become the pathways your thinking naturally seeks .It takes time & isn't overnight but it eventually seamlessly happens .
I knew this s t r e t c h was going to be formative & important in my life from the start of it. I had a weird sense . When All things being equal came out in early 2020 & I saw the reaction , I knew somehow it was the perfect time for it & my theory that "for every action there is an equal or opposite reaction" (not only in physics) would playout here .
An MIT study in the early 70's (and many others) predicted the collapse of our supposed civilisation by 2050 with the then calculable predictions based on population x consumption x pollution x resources etc . The study also noted that 2020 was considered the final point it could be pulled back into sanity if enough people realised and adapted their lives to consider it .
I believe mental wellness also comes from feeling you consider your actions & the resonances of them . ecologically and sociologically . I make zero claims to be perfect , but I try . And I try again .
There have been experiments in which researchers sought to determine what percentage of total population a minority needs to reach the critical mass necessary to reverse a majority viewpoint. The tipping point, they found, is just 25 percent....
Therein lies hope & solution I believe ..... have a great week out there & enjoy the late summer vibes & colours xpk

[lhtd]

I'm getting my doctorate in ecopsychology right now (or really environmental studies but from a depth psychological / Jungian vantage). Holding a lot of reverence for the ecological and psychological considerations you're touching upon as such, Pete.

The arts and humanities are integral for us to approach what even is the right question to ask with regard to "this moment." So I'm stoked that my favorite musicians are finding ways to express images of this moment such that we can arrive at the question imposing itself on us in a meaningful and consequential way.

Might I recommend to all this talk by the renegade Jungian, James Hillman, on aesthetics, psychology, and Nature:



Also everyone checkout their ecological footprint with this calculator... really puts into perspective how absurd and short-lived our current modern lifestyles are: https://www.footprintcalculator.org/home/en

[Sonic boom]

lhtd wrote:

I'm getting my doctorate in ecopsychology right now (or really environmental studies but from a depth psychological / Jungian vantage). Holding a lot of reverence for the ecological and psychological considerations you're touching upon as such, Pete.

The arts and humanities are integral for us to approach what even is the right question to ask with regard to "this moment." So I'm stoked that my favorite musicians are finding ways to express images of this moment such that we can arrive at the question imposing itself on us in a meaningful and consequential way.

Might I recommend to all this talk by the renegade Jungian, James Hillman, on aesthetics, psychology, and Nature:



Also everyone checkout their ecological footprint with this calculator... really puts into perspective how absurd and short-lived our current modern lifestyles are: https://www.footprintcalculator.org/home/en

That's amazing . Nice direction to be looking .
yeah....I support no political parties . I'm more Lennon than Lenin . But I think if we perceive somethings wrong & don't do anything to try to address that, we're clearly part of the problem & not the solution . When we can stop forgiving ourselves for the things we do personally that we know are part of the problem we have hope & for those who do that I think mental wellness increases .
No knights in shining armour will save us . If we can grasp that we as individuals are not so important in the grande scheme , beyond how we detrimentally impact our environment & our society , we will be getting back on track . We all can undo what we were all part of creating .
This doc looks interesting . I left school at 16 & I don't know so much about Jung , Nietsche or Freud but what I did assess from my observations is they all found a little bit of truth & all also things I think are not so true . Do u know Buckminster Fuller ? I never heard him utter a word I didn't think was deeply true .
Looking forward to watching it this evening . Good luck with your studies & thank you for your kind words !

[preakness]

Sonic boom wrote:

Fovrodi wrote:

Pete are there any plans to tease or compile the unused loops?

I know you boys have already shared so much, can't help but get greedy

The ones we didn't use ? From the LP or otherwise ?

Some are so good....I have a faint dream they might get used , so sitting on those seeds still...

But these 3 here in the d/l below yr welcome to .
We will rock you mighta be expecting the unreasonable ..... : )
Good to keep the parameters wide early on...

https://we.tl/t-C6p1BgLpbz

Damn boom this is super cool.

[lhtd]

Sonic boom wrote:

lhtd wrote:

I'm getting my doctorate in ecopsychology right now (or really environmental studies but from a depth psychological / Jungian vantage). Holding a lot of reverence for the ecological and psychological considerations you're touching upon as such, Pete.

The arts and humanities are integral for us to approach what even is the right question to ask with regard to "this moment." So I'm stoked that my favorite musicians are finding ways to express images of this moment such that we can arrive at the question imposing itself on us in a meaningful and consequential way.

Might I recommend to all this talk by the renegade Jungian, James Hillman, on aesthetics, psychology, and Nature:



Also everyone checkout their ecological footprint with this calculator... really puts into perspective how absurd and short-lived our current modern lifestyles are: https://www.footprintcalculator.org/home/en

That's amazing . Nice direction to be looking .
yeah....I support no political parties . I'm more Lennon than Lenin . But I think if we perceive somethings wrong & don't do anything to try to address that, we're clearly part of the problem & not the solution . When we can stop forgiving ourselves for the things we do personally that we know are part of the problem we have hope & for those who do that I think mental wellness increases .
No knights in shining armour will save us . If we can grasp that we as individuals are not so important in the grande scheme , beyond how we detrimentally impact our environment & our society , we will be getting back on track . We all can undo what we were all part of creating .
This doc looks interesting . I left school at 16 & I don't know so much about Jung , Nietsche or Freud but what I did assess from my observations is they all found a little bit of truth & all also things I think are not so true . Do u know Buckminster Fuller ? I never heard him utter a word I didn't think was deeply true .
Looking forward to watching it this evening . Good luck with your studies & thank you for your kind words !

Yeah, Buckminster Fuller has a deep imagination that I admire. I'd be curious to hear if you imagine your songs and sounds in similar proportions to his architecture. There's a synthetic yet terrestrial quality that comes through in his work, and it's a dynamic that seems also to be negotiate the spatial arrangements in All Things Being Equal.

I too had a shit education... the people who built our prisons also built our schools (talk about architecture!). Freud obviously has his problems but is vastly under appreciated; even more so for Jung, for whom the notion of soul (not as a spiritual substance but as the quality of perspective, if you will) was paramount and in my opinion, a necessary yet absent concept from environmental and even psychological discourse. What do we even say about Nietzsche...

Appreciative of your encouragement and words. More Lennon than Lenin... ha. I might be more Lemon than either of them. Although if we're leaning in that direction, I'm more likely an Okra, an Ochre, an Orca.