"Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???


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dio



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I think I'm only picturing Sufjan fuggin Stevens but i remember that dude dropped a huge like 10 min track for the Age of Adz era EP and sometimes I think that'll happen to Defeat. Seems kinda wrong tho... Idk, it'll be out there somehow eventually.

god i hope defeat turns out to be as wonderful as impossible soul

o shit I think I meant All Delighted People actually. Huge (and maybe my favorite?) sufjan song, coming from a fair weather sufjan guy. never listen to him at all, but that song was huge and really sweet and just blipped into blogosphere

its just weird to think of Defeat even being on youtube at any point. I hereby vow to only listen to FLAC thru quality sound system or vinyl thu a proper record player (one day) and hopefully i can follow along with provided lyrics and notation/arrangement on parchment by candlelight


we need fuggin Stride Rite and the panda songs too tho man. Magicians. They need to go ahead and just do a lil timeless masterpiece level artistic pinnacle of an album with these tunes. Like its time, yal got this, do it
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Go mega - Triple LP

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Stride
Gem and I
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Genie's
Kings
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Magicians
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Defeat
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Broke
Soul Capturer
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-etching-

Maybe a new song thrown in somewhere too
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ya why not man. every band gets at least ONE double LP. Friggin do it, spread out and stretch those legs and give us like 90 min of beautiful music (with 2-3 new songs and a surprise like Sundown w/ Cecil)
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...ISN'T IT NOW???
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dio wrote:
coral lord wrote:
dio wrote:
I think I'm only picturing Sufjan fuggin Stevens but i remember that dude dropped a huge like 10 min track for the Age of Adz era EP and sometimes I think that'll happen to Defeat. Seems kinda wrong tho... Idk, it'll be out there somehow eventually.

god i hope defeat turns out to be as wonderful as impossible soul

o shit I think I meant All Delighted People actually. Huge (and maybe my favorite?) sufjan song, coming from a fair weather sufjan guy. never listen to him at all, but that song was huge and really sweet and just blipped into blogosphere

the All Delighted People EP also had Djohariah which was 17 minutes long
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Odds are the next ac album is their best…..that rocks
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it really fuggin should be. No pressure, boys.
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dio wrote:
it really fuggin should be. No pressure, boys.

seriously. idk if anything could top spirit feels jam or sung tongs for me personally but magicians is maybe in my top five ever for them. so fucking psyched for this
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dio wrote:
coral lord wrote:
dio wrote:
I think I'm only picturing Sufjan fuggin Stevens but i remember that dude dropped a huge like 10 min track for the Age of Adz era EP and sometimes I think that'll happen to Defeat. Seems kinda wrong tho... Idk, it'll be out there somehow eventually.

god i hope defeat turns out to be as wonderful as impossible soul

o shit I think I meant All Delighted People actually. Huge (and maybe my favorite?) sufjan song, coming from a fair weather sufjan guy. never listen to him at all, but that song was huge and really sweet and just blipped into blogosphere
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True, amazing EP. But lets not forget one of his most stupendous compositions, Majesty, Snowbird, never even got the studio treatment.

At the end of the day you just get what you get.
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Damn majesty snowbird. What could’ve been
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a truly sobering moment for the thread
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Okay one release method not considered is that there are 10 more minutes to Defeat which we haven’t heard and the full title is “Long Defeat” and it’s released by itself as an album and also the band is now called Bone Fishmans
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^i had not considered this

defeat should be the lead single. Just from a marketing perspective. I can picture lots of “animal collective releases 25-minute new song” headlines
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hatredcopter wrote:
^i had not considered this

defeat should be the lead single. Just from a marketing perspective. I can picture lots of “animal collective releases 25-minute new song” headlines

yes! i honestly think this makes sense... Like push people to listen to it by seeming audacious enough to release such a huge one for an advance single, but like, it warrants that! Anyone who tries to listen (and sticks with it) will probably be sold! esp if they were like an older fan who fell out post-mpp maybe. i just want people to hear this thing in general
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F Defeat we got Danger
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Jam wrote:
Okay one release method not considered is that there are 10 more minutes to Defeat which we haven’t heard and the full title is “Long Defeat” and it’s released by itself as an album and also the band is now called Bone Fishmans

ahead of that album they release "Defeat (short version)" and it's 42 min long and we're all like fuuuuck how long is long defeat gonna be
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Jam wrote:
Okay one release method not considered is that there are 10 more minutes to Defeat which we haven’t heard and the full title is “Long Defeat” and it’s released by itself as an album and also the band is now called Bone Fishmans


"Defeat (a suite)"
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kinda feel like Genies is gonna be the first single
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Oh man I forgot about how perplexing the single choices were for Skiffs, can’t wait to puzzle together their decisions about this next batch
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Defeat (single mix) - 2:34
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The biggest flex would be if the official title isn’t even defeat and it’s like “isn’t it now” or something
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at the Vancouver show today, Avey said "we just finished recording some new songs."

i'm curious if he's just talking about the January sessions or if they recorded some more during their little break in between July and August tours.
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I'm assuming he meant the january sessions because I think he also said something about them playing lots of new stuff just after (or before, not sure)
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Saying he "JUST" recorded them does seem a little weird of a way to describe something in January but who knows. Maybe they did more + finishing touches in july
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dio wrote:
Saying he "JUST" recorded them does seem a little weird of a way to describe something in January but who knows. Maybe they did more + finishing touches in july

hmm, just listened back to the boot, the exact phrasing is "we recorded some new music recently. so we've got a bunch of new stuff. more music to be released."

i guess January could still be considered "recently." sorry for the false alarm.
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curious if this "the great challenge / into the void" song will show up in some capacity on the next releases or what the deal is with that piece.
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Notice he’s not saying “album” anymore
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I hope gem and I main synth line sounds sticky and drippy or oozy like Repo black dice shit maybe like Pigs from impossible
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this has been too long. this and skiffs belong together. stop forcing them apart domino!
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Sounds like it was recorded analog with plugins and shit but transferred onto a computer for at least mastering btw
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are they playing a new song? the instagram stories from last night have a cool sounding track with dave singing, doesn't sound familiar at all
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People saying it might be an intro to Strung
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yea it's been played before strung for i think all the shows on this current leg. i saw them back in july and they did do a similar less structured intro to strung too, so maybe it's a developing song? i called it "the challenge" on my split of the vancouver boot.

edit: here it is from the vancouver boot https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aBhPw_ ... sp=sharing
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Oh shit a lot of info in this interview

https://silentlight.substack.com/p/day- ... interviews
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"I think the best...sometimes the best versions of things are the first, kind of intuitive representation of the mood; the first thing that comes out is from the heart, y'know, and I think after that, you can start to overthink things, and you can lose sort of, like, the rawness, or the original intent..."

One hundred percent agree and said the same about their music for years, so don't quite get why this doesn't translate to capturing this first intuitive version on record. Not trying to be shitty here but this is exactly why I prefer their earliest shows of an era to the albums, in most cases.
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Was just in the process of quoting that bit. The managerial role is there for the taking !
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Good interview but did him so dirty to transcribe every um ah and stammer. Lol
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I cleaned up, like, 20% of the “, like,”s and “um”s but couldn’t find it in me to excise everything—my first artist interviews ever, and I guess I’ve learned about myself that taking an axe to mannerisms, even boring ones, isn’t my style…
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Tropic wrote:
Was just in the process of quoting that bit. The managerial role is there for the taking !

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robertsona wrote:
I cleaned up, like, 20% of the “, like,”s and “um”s but couldn’t find it in me to excise everything—my first artist interviews ever, and I guess I’ve learned about myself that taking an axe to mannerisms, even boring ones, isn’t my style…

Fair call! I can talk shit but I know making such a choice isn't so simple. Thanks for the interview
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