[roopn]

On the subject of strings, though I find it unlikely for the album... Sundown with Cecil

[Slippi's Applesauce]

sundown would be cool for sure.

strings and woodwinds would separate this stuff from time skiffs and i think help make it more cohesive. they don't even have to be upfront in the mix, they can be reserved (like the violin on feels) and still help contribute to a very different atmosphere

[speen]

Can i speak with the CEO of animal collective? We need the strings and woodwinds

[coral lord]

let's add a string solo to gem and i

[opposite field]

Ok I feel like I can say now that a dream I've had for this material is for them to just go back to music box village and record it live. Bring back to musicians from the OG performance and just let it rip. Can we get someone to DM Deakin about this?

[Tropic]

That would be sick. With Noah involved. Hollindagain style. Do a few nights and mix it together. Just call it Music Box Village.

[Slippi's Applesauce]

That would be cool but their llueve vox are pretty rough sometimes (not so much avey but deak and panda- probably also bc of their complicated parts on keys and drums this tour) so maybe id like that idea more if they did vocal overdubs

Plus I feel like there’s a certain magic and ethereal quality to their studio vocals

[rampface]

Record a studio album at Music Box Village. Doesn't have to necessarily be "live"

Also, this collection of songs is exciting...

Kings
Magicians From Baltimore
Gem & I
Stride Right
Soul Capturer
Genie's Open
Strangers
Defeat

[roopn]

I wonder if lp2's art will be like an inverse of Time Skiffs, i.e. Three quarters dark, spacey, textured and a smaller portion collagey, washed out

Even if it's not that direct, I figure they will surely play off each other in some way right?

[KidEatsKeyboard]

A lot of the songs in this batch do sound like they should be paired with a black album cover, so if it was like an inverse of TS I'd be happy

[Hellomark]

Those fucking samples in the last part of Magicians that sound partially like electric guitar bends, partially like animals howling are a true stroke of mad genius. Goosebump inducing. I like how you can see Brian triggering the samples in that drop of sun video. He truly went off for that part. Brian if you're reading this, you're a genius. Hell, even if you're NOT reading this, you're a genius.

[dio]

the ending of Magicians is so incredible. Song is this huge slow burn build up but then eventually its a party song lol. Ending when geo is playing those sick guitar bend samples almost sounds VWish to me.

[Slippi's Applesauce]

Magicians is amazing. I love the Americana-style breakdown so much. Hopefully when it comes back Panda adds more vocals throughout so it can have a huge 3-part harmony

[Fovrodi]

One the eagle/two the noble/three the lizard/four the souulllll capturer

[nothingmaster]

Hellomark wrote:

Those fucking samples in the last part of Magicians that sound partially like electric guitar bends, partially like animals howling are a true stroke of mad genius. Goosebump inducing. I like how you can see Brian triggering the samples in that drop of sun video. He truly went off for that part. Brian if you're reading this, you're a genius. Hell, even if you're NOT reading this, you're a genius.

yes and the weeooweeooweeooweeoo in the first chorus

[dio]

Man I really fell in love with Magicians recently. Was glad to see it back but I was always so distracted by other music box songs I never really listened to it but now that it's back.

Man a lot say Magicians for opener but it could just as well be a closer. The ending verses and musically are very end credits. Could be a much happier ending for Skiffs 2 and the way it starts and build I could honestly see it following defeat too

Maybe Skiffs 2 is just structured around Genies-> Defeat -> Magicians

[foxtrot]

Would bloody love to see an album structured around Magicians and Defeat, then a separate one structured around the spacey/dubby tracks like Gem & I, Genie's and Broke Zodiac.

Just do a fucking King Gizz and give us 3 albums next year!

[Strange_Clams]

Used to think it was "where we get high under magnolias" on Magicians but it's definitely "where it gets hot under magnolias" and it's making me think about these specific magnolias in Baltimore near the Washington Monument

Because i have indeed smoked weed under those magnolias on a disgusting humid summer night before a public movie screening in the other section of the park nearby

[Slippi's Applesauce]

Woah I never considered either. Guess I thought it was “high on the Magnolias” but I prefer the hot line

[coral lord]

magicians is one of the best songs of this era, easily.

[dio]

Magicians is like a Spirit-sized epic, a true beast of a song. Structurally reminds me of Spirit and Defeat. Magicians and Defeat are both monster-sized and emotionally huge. Love em.

[BORCHENKO??]

Magicians reminds me of Crimson

[foxtrot]

Magicians is Crimson turned up to 11. And Crimson was already like an 8 or 9

[meys]

time skiffs 2: the legend of deakin's gold recording sessions soon!! (via blast radio broadcast #4)

[Hellomark]

The part where Deak was just listing off the songs they still need to record... this is gonna be the best album ever.

[Hellomark]

MAGICIANS
GEM AND I

STRIDE RITE
KINGS WALK
BROKE ZODIAC

DEFEAT

GENIES OPEN
SOUL CAPTURER

final tracklist prediction, this feels the most right to me/what I would be most stoked on hearing.

[phodicae 2]

Hellomark wrote:

MAGICIANS
GEM AND I

STRIDE RITE
KINGS WALK
BROKE ZODIAC

DEFEAT

GENIES OPEN
SOUL CAPTURER

final tracklist prediction, this feels the most right to me/what I would be most stoked on hearing.

Not another 2XLP!

[foxtrot]

TS2:

Kings
Defeat
Magicians


TS3:

Broke Zodiac
Gem & I
Stride Right
(New studio only track)
Soul Capturer
Genies Open (10mins long)

[dio]

Literally was just doing super hard math figuring out Defeat and Magicians alone are roughly a whole half hour.

So going by their normal 50ish min album length or less that still leaves 20 min of other jams which is honestly enough but yeah, def ends.up.being one of their longer ones

Kinda feel like Broke and Gem need to be a doubleside single or sumn

[dio]

What if there is no Skiffs 2 and instead we get a Defeat/Magicians 12'' double single and a panda/deak (stride) heavy EP.

I mean the Defeat/Mag single would still be album sized but at end of day would technically be just two huge songs

[blindmowing]

this is a total predicament isn't it.

60-70 minutes of material... throw it all on one album or split it into a few releases? which songs get released first?

how does the band and ultimately how does the label want to market this material? i'm so thrown.

my guess is LP + EP... in the vein of 2009 when AC dropped MPP then FBK later in the year... FBK being a very healthy length for an EP (27 mins). i think we get a 25-minute EP in fall 2022 and another 45-50 minute LP in 2023.

[destiny]

Gem and I and Broke zodiac are perfect companions to the behemoths of magicians, defeat and kings and offer much needed levity and are deceptively emotional. A 8 song lp would be so perfect with those on it and Genies. They can make their best album ever

[blindmowing]

Hellomark wrote:

MAGICIANS
GEM AND I

STRIDE RITE
KINGS WALK
BROKE ZODIAC

DEFEAT

GENIES OPEN
SOUL CAPTURER

final tracklist prediction, this feels the most right to me/what I would be most stoked on hearing.

i really need to make this compilation and give it some run-throughs... i'm verrrrrrrry intrigued by this. very.

[foxtrot]

FEEL ON1NE!!! wrote:

Gem and I and Broke zodiac are perfect companions to the behemoths of magicians, defeat and kings and offer much needed levity and are deceptively emotional. A 8 song lp would be so perfect with those on it and Genies. They can make their best album ever

this is pretty spot on actually. soul capturer and stride right aren't quite at the same level for me. but these 6 would make a flawless album. just be hard to sequence them effectively.

[Slippi's Applesauce]

the new stride right is incredibly grandiose imo. probably one of the top 3 glow ups with we go back and broke zodiac

it’s gonna sound massive with those heavy drums. absolutely deserves a spot on ts2!

[foxtrot]

just relistened to the blast version and yeh, its gorgeous. i guess the main melody just hasn't quite grabbed hold of me in the same way as others yet.

[coral lord]

Slippi's Applesauce wrote:

the new stride right is incredibly grandiose imo. probably one of the top 3 glow ups with we go back and broke zodiac

couldn't disagree more, only because it was a 10 back in 2019 as well. i love the old version, and i also love the new drum buildup to waltz version.

[Slippi's Applesauce]

i mean it was great in 2019 but the addition of avey's harmonies, more lyrics, the higher melody chorus, more intensity, the spacey intro, etc. all brought it up for me. the last couple years i definitely considered it the most "normal" of the songs, but now it really stands out

only thing i kinda miss are panda's vocals and the outro (and even that might've just been bc of the girl's harmonies), but it's incredible even without those!

[KidEatsKeyboard]

Just a heads up, I'm working on a Time Skiffs 2 comprised of Blast sessions. It'll be Magicians -> Gem and I -> Stride Rite -> Broke Zodiac -> Defeat -> Genie's Open. Been really in love with listening to them in this order so I wanted to put it together more efficiently. Will have it up later today hopefully

[Slippi's Applesauce]

What about kings!!

Thanks for doing that tho can’t wait to hear it