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I still don't understand this song all these years on. It is a behemoth.
To my tastes, it not only towers above everything else on CHz but also stands out in their entire discography. They've never done anything like it. It's the most 'rock' Noah has ever been but that doesn't begin to cover why it's such an incredible outlier.
The beat is pure Tomboy, which makes sense given it came out of the same era of writing sessions, but it's absolutely banging. Hard and lolloping like Bonham but also sticky and very hip hop. Slow Motion comes closest probably but that is nowhere near as idiosyncratic.
The verses, or whatever you might call the structured vocal parts epitomise Dave's comments about how authoritative the Tomboy songs sounded to him. They're almost like a sermon, but delivered to himself. There's such pain in the words and delivery but also such conviction. The repetition. He's drawing a line in the sand.
And all the while you have these strange orchestral stabs slashing at the chords. They sound like knives slicing through guitar strings. You have this ecstatic modulated violin on the keyboard which is unlike any sound they've ever played. It reminds me of Deakin's astonishing guitar line which bursts into Water Curses, but only in that I've never heard anything like it, not just in their music. It winds its way through the entire song - how did they even write this part? And why?!
Noah changes gear, "No more in the wrong place, no more in the wrong time, no more getting through trials in sight" and these drums and strings and keyboards and stabs smash together and start dancing around each other, we hear these distant 'oh oh ohs' and the vocals are suddenly swinging and sassy as fuck, "no more little fights, never more a broke mess at night" and I am bouncing. It's delivered like a psalm, though. Total confidence and wisdom. Where can this song even go from here?
"Out of my..."
And we are somewhere they've never been before.
I said at the time that the chord changes in the middle section were the new Banshee Beat but there's so much more going on here. That winding violin is now wailing with joy and pain, pure catharsis. Those 'oh oh ohs' are like the voices of the dead brought back to life, delivered with no emotion but they make you want to cry.
The string stabs and the bass drive on, and then there is a colossal chord change lifting everything up, holding the entire song aloft for a weightless moment and then piledriving it back into the dirt and I don't even know what the hell is happening now. Years of hurt are coming out, streaming down your cheeks. The 'oh oh ohs' are now reassuring, comforting, we've all been there, we're in this thing together. Let it out.
Almost aware that they've wrought everything from the song, the final section just puts us back on the level. Live, this section was perhaps the high point but even the strained, desperate "lift this weight" feels like reaching for a moment which has already passed. I don't think they'll ever do anything like this again.
To my tastes, it not only towers above everything else on CHz but also stands out in their entire discography. They've never done anything like it. It's the most 'rock' Noah has ever been but that doesn't begin to cover why it's such an incredible outlier.
The beat is pure Tomboy, which makes sense given it came out of the same era of writing sessions, but it's absolutely banging. Hard and lolloping like Bonham but also sticky and very hip hop. Slow Motion comes closest probably but that is nowhere near as idiosyncratic.
The verses, or whatever you might call the structured vocal parts epitomise Dave's comments about how authoritative the Tomboy songs sounded to him. They're almost like a sermon, but delivered to himself. There's such pain in the words and delivery but also such conviction. The repetition. He's drawing a line in the sand.
And all the while you have these strange orchestral stabs slashing at the chords. They sound like knives slicing through guitar strings. You have this ecstatic modulated violin on the keyboard which is unlike any sound they've ever played. It reminds me of Deakin's astonishing guitar line which bursts into Water Curses, but only in that I've never heard anything like it, not just in their music. It winds its way through the entire song - how did they even write this part? And why?!
Noah changes gear, "No more in the wrong place, no more in the wrong time, no more getting through trials in sight" and these drums and strings and keyboards and stabs smash together and start dancing around each other, we hear these distant 'oh oh ohs' and the vocals are suddenly swinging and sassy as fuck, "no more little fights, never more a broke mess at night" and I am bouncing. It's delivered like a psalm, though. Total confidence and wisdom. Where can this song even go from here?
"Out of my..."
And we are somewhere they've never been before.
I said at the time that the chord changes in the middle section were the new Banshee Beat but there's so much more going on here. That winding violin is now wailing with joy and pain, pure catharsis. Those 'oh oh ohs' are like the voices of the dead brought back to life, delivered with no emotion but they make you want to cry.
The string stabs and the bass drive on, and then there is a colossal chord change lifting everything up, holding the entire song aloft for a weightless moment and then piledriving it back into the dirt and I don't even know what the hell is happening now. Years of hurt are coming out, streaming down your cheeks. The 'oh oh ohs' are now reassuring, comforting, we've all been there, we're in this thing together. Let it out.
Almost aware that they've wrought everything from the song, the final section just puts us back on the level. Live, this section was perhaps the high point but even the strained, desperate "lift this weight" feels like reaching for a moment which has already passed. I don't think they'll ever do anything like this again.
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Nice write
Intro was my ringtone for years
Intro was my ringtone for years
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Absolutely agree, nice post mang. Such a powerful song. I can't play it loud enough. I remember hearing it live before centipede hz came out and was blown away by the power of the song, especially the violin stabs
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Nice write up Stan. Your words make me appreciate the chord change more in New Town Burnout, which allows me to enjoy the song more. However I still don't really like it that much
It has the same problem that I believe originated with Daily Routine, continued on with Tomboy (the song), Slow Motion, Afterburner, New Town Burnout, and last utilized in Peacemaker. This problem is a lack of momentum throughout the song. Within these tracks, there is a static quality to the verses and the song structure that is not helped by the additional sonic textures that I usually love in Animal Collective's music. Each one of those songs suffers from slightly different degrees of this lack of momentum. NTB is probably the most interesting of these cases because of that chord change in the middle. But to me, all of these songs seem a lot longer than they actually are because of this static quality, which results in me feeling slightly agitated when listening. They sound too busy. My favorite parts are usually the outros when a new sense of flow is clearly leading onto something different.
This seems to be strictly a Panda quality, because I can't think of any of Avey's songs that are structured in such a way. Dave is actually really good at building momentum in his songs (though his tend to be more disjointed, especially in his post-MPP material). Banshee beat is a perfect example. It is longer than any of those Panda songs that I mentioned, but because it flows together so effortlessly, it feels much shorter. Bros is another great example of this
It has the same problem that I believe originated with Daily Routine, continued on with Tomboy (the song), Slow Motion, Afterburner, New Town Burnout, and last utilized in Peacemaker. This problem is a lack of momentum throughout the song. Within these tracks, there is a static quality to the verses and the song structure that is not helped by the additional sonic textures that I usually love in Animal Collective's music. Each one of those songs suffers from slightly different degrees of this lack of momentum. NTB is probably the most interesting of these cases because of that chord change in the middle. But to me, all of these songs seem a lot longer than they actually are because of this static quality, which results in me feeling slightly agitated when listening. They sound too busy. My favorite parts are usually the outros when a new sense of flow is clearly leading onto something different.
This seems to be strictly a Panda quality, because I can't think of any of Avey's songs that are structured in such a way. Dave is actually really good at building momentum in his songs (though his tend to be more disjointed, especially in his post-MPP material). Banshee beat is a perfect example. It is longer than any of those Panda songs that I mentioned, but because it flows together so effortlessly, it feels much shorter. Bros is another great example of this
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cool write-up but this was and still is always a bit of a head-scratcher to me. it is fully me projecting but when i hear Rosie Oh and NTB I hear panda kinda knocking his head against a wall trying to come up with a post-MPP style for his AC songs... like I Think I Can is kind of like that too... so effortless when he played it solo into Chores, and then because kinda over-wrought on record. they barely sound like AC songs to me, those 3 specifically, but that in itself is kind of interesting, and i def dont out-right hate everything about them at all... in a way NTB seems like a weird epilogue to Daily Routine, like after the long fade-out, this comes in...in terms of panda's band output as one giant odyssey of sound/style
like i honestly kinda hate his delivery and most of the vocal melody on this song... despite how cool you make it sound. like ya that moment in the middle before the instrumental break is amazing but is it all worth it? probably. idk to each his own tho amen
like i honestly kinda hate his delivery and most of the vocal melody on this song... despite how cool you make it sound. like ya that moment in the middle before the instrumental break is amazing but is it all worth it? probably. idk to each his own tho amen
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Fuckin great posts in response, guys. Thanks. I totally get what's not to love about the this one but it's always been a strange curio that's hit me right in the nuts. I really dig where you're coming from though. Cheers.
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always felt a bit like a tomboy song, but more desperate if that makes sense
one of the more intense panda songs imo
on the vinyl of chz, ntb and monkey riches take up one side
the transition def works on the album for me, and the songs work as a pair
when i used to listen to Chz alot when it came out, ntb was never a fave
but now, after awhile of that album being on the back burner for me, it stands out as one of the best songs
the whole oohhhh jam section is def really different for them, and i love that
one of the more intense panda songs imo
on the vinyl of chz, ntb and monkey riches take up one side
the transition def works on the album for me, and the songs work as a pair
when i used to listen to Chz alot when it came out, ntb was never a fave
but now, after awhile of that album being on the back burner for me, it stands out as one of the best songs
the whole oohhhh jam section is def really different for them, and i love that
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sounds like a loose electric cable swinging wildly and spraying sparks
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2011 Coachella. Best performance of the song. Mind melted for the best.
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Great post Stan, fully on board with everything you said. Colossal track. Got nothin else to add 

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I love the 2011 Pitchfork version. I'm also someone who thinks NTB is close to perfect but I wish the "no more at the wrong times, no more at the wrong place" vocal was more defined and clear the way it is on that bootleg.
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Nice write up Stan. This song hits me so hard, for sure a standout in their discog
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<3 thank u stan ( / this board/ AC) .
I remember thinking this would be AC's bestest song ever.
I think it has the potential but it never reached that level for me, although yes, it's definitely up there somewhere, and the best CHZ song for me.
I still - and forever will be - crushed when he starts singing " No more little fights, never more a broke mess at night " and everything onwards. It's so emotional and the chord changes are so damn beautiful, my only gripe is - not surprisingly - the production. There's just too much going on and there's too little space. Also I think the drums are too repetitive and although I love the "Lift this weight" part there's always a part of me that desires something...more. I don't know if it's because of the busy-ness of the production or it's the drums or if it's something in his voice that is missing. i dooont know. But that's such a shame because the " strange orchestral stabs slashing at the chords" are so emotionally provoking and heavy—together with his voice it's def one of their most hard hitting tracks and indeed something they've never done.
and yes- that bridge..
I remember thinking this would be AC's bestest song ever.

I still - and forever will be - crushed when he starts singing " No more little fights, never more a broke mess at night " and everything onwards. It's so emotional and the chord changes are so damn beautiful, my only gripe is - not surprisingly - the production. There's just too much going on and there's too little space. Also I think the drums are too repetitive and although I love the "Lift this weight" part there's always a part of me that desires something...more. I don't know if it's because of the busy-ness of the production or it's the drums or if it's something in his voice that is missing. i dooont know. But that's such a shame because the " strange orchestral stabs slashing at the chords" are so emotionally provoking and heavy—together with his voice it's def one of their most hard hitting tracks and indeed something they've never done.
and yes- that bridge..
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Great write up. This song and Tomboy are special for me because that's some of the first AC that was released when I got into them. The "oh-oh" bridge is heavenly!
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I basically feel the same way but about Mr Fingers. But nice writeup. I haven't revisited this one in a while
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Relistening to the live @ 930 version of this. PB's voice absolutely soars on this recording, and absolutely crumbles apart in the best way. Love the way he plays with the delay on his vocals by hitting the T really hard in "light"
I also remember someone comparing the guitar wailing at the end of this recording to GY!BE which is cool, definitely not in AC's usual wheelhouse
I also remember someone comparing the guitar wailing at the end of this recording to GY!BE which is cool, definitely not in AC's usual wheelhouse
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