[AudibleKayak]

demonclusters wrote:

Pan wrote:

synthesizers are real instruments btw and anyone who thinks otherwise knows less about music than they think they do

preach

I got into an argument the other day with one of my professors over whether samplers and synths are real instruments. His overall point was "it needs to have been played 100 years ago to be a real instrument"

http://120years.net/the-musical-telegra ... eyusa1876/

First electronic musical instrument was accidentally made 140 years ago by Elisha Gray.
So your professor's broken logic doesn't even work properly.

[jfw7]

i almost got sucked into saying the same thing because it's tempting to argue online but the professor isn't actually here so nobody's making his argument and there's no point to refute

[jfw7]

improve your internet life by typing up a reply, reading it yourself, and then closing the tab without sending

[jfw7]

i'm not contrarian, but

jfw7 wrote:

improve your internet life by typing up a reply, reading it yourself, and then closing the tab without sending

[El Camino]

hilarious when anyone brings up "real instruments". anything you use to make music is an instrument.

[Hash]

Like saying a singer or rapper isn't a musician somehow

[Crushhigh]

This is interesting discussion about real instruments and real musicians. I've always appreciated the honesty they have about their lack of formal training and varying knowledge (Noah seems to have the most, Brian the least) and I like this because it's inspiring to me and others who don't have a total understanding of formal music that we can still make good tunes

Anyways, for a contrarian opinion
Summertime Clothes is the most overrated AC song and the worst on MPP

[roopn]

Crushhigh wrote:

Anyways, for a contrarian opinion
Summertime Clothes is the most overrated AC song and the worst on MPP

Oosh

[speen]

contrarian opinion:
geologists contributions on painting with seem to be rather negligible. for the first time in ac history, i cant put my finger on why he's important on the album. there never seems to be enough happening in the songs to warrant having 3 people

[matthwq]

"feels" is the least interesting animal collective record to me -- NOT THAT IT ISN'T REALLY GOOD but it's by far the one I return to the least.

it's a little goofy, because i became a rabid ac fan because of that album when it came out. I have a lot of really great memories associated with it, at least (esp w/ "the purple bottle").

[roopn]

demonclusters wrote:

contrarian opinion:
geologists contributions on painting with seem to be rather negligible. for the first time in ac history, i cant put my finger on why he's important on the album. there never seems to be enough happening in the songs to warrant having 3 people

I don't think you're hearing everything, or you're crediting too much instrumentation to the other two

[roopn]

matthwq wrote:

"feels" is the least interesting animal collective record to me -- NOT THAT IT ISN'T REALLY GOOD but it's by far the one I return to the least.

it's a little goofy, because i became a rabid ac fan because of that album when it came out. I have a lot of really great memories associated with it, at least (esp w/ "the purple bottle").

Do kinda agree with this

[Tropic]

Yeah, like we have literally no idea who does what on each record bar the vocals and what they've explicitly stated in interviews. So it's pretty sweeping to outright state that one of the members contributed little to an entire record.

However, I sort of know what you mean about the record's sound as a whole. I'm not going to feign knowledge of how all their equipment works but it does seem like a whole lot. Especially considering what Noah was doing on his own for a similar-sounding LP.

[roopn]

I honestly don't think pbvsgr sounds very much like painting with

[speen]

obviously we dont know for sure what he did. just saying, when you listen to the album, it sounds easily made by just avey and panda. it doesnt feel like geologist's watermark shows up much imo. plus, when i saw them live, it seemed like he was hardly doing anything. Twas weird

[Stanshant]

Maybe he drives the tour bus.

[coollodges]

when watching the live radio show video they put out it seems like geo is doing quite a bit.

[Tropic]

roopn wrote:

I honestly don't think pbvsgr sounds very much like painting with

Side by side no, but in terms of AC records sounding drastically different to one another I'd say they're close enough to warrant the comparison. But I guess what the guy meant was that Painting With barely sounds like it needs two more people, you know? That it sorta comes off as a Panda-Avey album or something. The songs are, instrumentally, fairly straightforward. In the same vein as PBVSGR.

But anyways I think this conception mostly has to do with their static stage presence. I'm sure just as much, if not more, is going on on Geo's side of things here.

[curleyswirley]

Tropic of Cans wrote:

roopn wrote:

I honestly don't think pbvsgr sounds very much like painting with

Side by side no, but in terms of AC records sounding drastically different to one another I'd say they're close enough to warrant the comparison. But I guess what the guy meant was that Painting With barely sounds like it needs two more people, you know? That it sorta comes off as a Panda-Avey album or something. The songs are, instrumentally, fairly straightforward. In the same vein as PBVSGR.

But anyways I think this conception mostly has to do with their static stage presence. I'm sure just as much, if not more, is going on on Geo's side of things here.

Aye, the stripped-down sound is probably a result of the album's more simplistic, 'Ramones' aesthetic innit.

I figured a lot of the sample stuff is Geo's work... The sounds during the bridge of FloriDada, the little rising and falling synths in Burglars... The funny breathing and sax noises on LITG...

[roopn]

yea I just watched the BBC floridada performance againseems to me it's like this:

Avey - Vox, main synth
Panda - Vox, Bass synth
Jeremy - drums
Geo - every single little whizz, zip, whoosh, whirr sample, presumably in control of the backing vocal clips too

without him I think the album would sound very different

[bansheebeaten]

the mr. noah EP is leagues better and more memorable than PBVSGR

down there and oddsac are on equal ground with feels, far better than other releases

[AudibleKayak]

I don't really think those opinions are unpopular

[bansheebeaten]

well excuse me

i'll try to be edgy enough for you next time

[Pan]

AudibleKayak wrote:

I don't really think those opinions are unpopular

oddsac and down there have a lot of dissenters or, in the case of oddsac, people who flat out ignore its existence
while feels is seen as by the majority of this forum to be the band's best album

and people put mr noah to the side after pbsvgr came out

so yeah those are pretty unpopular opinions

[cramberry]

agree w/ kari re: oddsac, its fucking amazing

[Tropic]

Noah has the worst hair of the group

[Tropic]

Yet is the most married... p weird

[AudibleKayak]

bansheebeaten wrote:

well excuse me

i'll try to be edgy enough for you next time

Hahaha, sorry if that message came across as impolite. Wasn't my intention at all. It's just that, in my experience I've seen quite a few Animal Collective fans sharing the same opinions as yours, me included.

Pan wrote:

oddsac and down there have a lot of dissenters or, in the case of oddsac, people who flat out ignore its existence
while feels is seen as by the majority of this forum to be the band's best album

I've only ever seen mainstream music reviewers rag on Down There. On the other hand I've seen very few AnCo fans rag on that album. I don't think people ignore ODDSAC. I think ODDSAC is just easily forgotten/separated from everything else because it is so different from everything they've ever done.

Pan wrote:

and people put mr noah to the side after pbsvgr came out

True, but I remember Mr. Noah being much more well received than PBVSGR.

[amber]

Tropic of Cans wrote:

Noah has the worst hair of the group

PB lookin a lil sweaty and gross these days

[roopn]

Come on, Noah's bowl is leagues ahead of Avey's curls, Deak's pasty flat locks and whatever Geo has

[speen]

None of them have particularly good hair lmao

[Tropic]

Dave's hair is awesome what

[terrestrialjane]

Imagine mr noah lp and reaper ep ....

[Goku]

Hollinndagain is by far the best release in ACs catalog

also there is nothing wrong with anco

[Texas Trill]

Goku wrote:

Hollinndagain is by far the best release in ACs catalog

By far???

You serious?

[destiny]

Goku wrote:

Hollinndagain is by far the best release in ACs catalog

also there is nothing wrong with anco

You son of a bitch. Animal collective fanbase is the only one to EVER have these guys use a JOKE NICKNAME given by HIPSTER RUNOFF before the NICKNAMe the BAND ACTUALLY CALLS THEMSELV. (Panda bear vs the TURTLE, THE TURTLE BOTTLE, ON THEIR FKING SOUNDCLOUD) It' amazing me

[speen]

Goku wrote:

Hollinndagain is by far the best release in ACs catalog

while i don't agree with you, i totally respect that opinion
feels was the latest AC album i'd put above hollinndagain

[roopn]

FEEL ON1NE!!! wrote:

It' amazing me

I feel ya man

[Stanshant]

Haha great posts all round.

[Goku]

Texas Trill wrote:

Goku wrote:

Hollinndagain is by far the best release in ACs catalog

By far???

You serious?

Yeah, imo Hollinndagain is one of the better albums ever released. I'd have Feels and STGSTV as close second and third, respectively