Collected Animals • "I'm not contrarian but..."

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Post **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:30 am

I don't thik they sound bad, but if you put on your cynical hat it's easy to sort of hear it as a by gone production style

Post **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:39 am

I got to interview Panda earlier this month and he said he'd rather not have to travel so much in order to get his and Animal Collective's projects done. My contribution to this thread:
- MPP isn't a perfect record. Daily Routine and Taste prevent it from being so.
- I'd rather listen to/watch ODDSAC than to listen to CHz`
- Painting With has 3 amazing songs: FloriDada, Vertical, Golden Gal. The rest of the album sounds average and uninspired (for Animal Collective standards)

Post **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:41 am

Miguel Moura wrote:

- MPP isn't a perfect record. Daily Routine and Taste prevent it from being so.

Two of the best songs on the album prevent it from being perfect? I don't understand.

Post **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:19 pm

I don't think painting with sounds good, production-wise, and i can't understand why people do. for lack of a better term, it sounds lame

I think person pitch and mpp aged perfectly fine, not sure what people are saying. if anything they sound better than ever in the face of person pitch

Post **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:37 pm

I really enjoy the production of PW, particularly Hocus Pocus and litg

Post **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:40 pm

in the verses of Lying in the Grass there's this quiet, textural kinda synth going on in the background that's sweet, sorta reminds me of Basic Channel or Actress. you can hear it best in the intro

Post **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:43 pm

Water Curses, the EP, is pretty timeless, just like all of SJ. It doesn't really sound like anything, despite being rooted in a certain indie rock era. Water Curses the track is probably the most distinctive song in their discography.

Post **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:52 pm

Person Pitch is very reminiscent of a particular era but there's a looseness and spontaneity and innocence and inspiration and atmosphere to it which is evergreen. Everything else he's done reeks of effort and exertion, in comparison. Great songs, great music, some of which is deliriously good, but nothing as enduring or ecstatic, to my ears.

I know I'm not being contrarian or anything here, just refuting some of the utter fucking shit I've had to read in this thread from entry level wankers.

Post **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:28 pm

^ top tier post

Post **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:36 pm

Haha yes Stan.

Water Curses is a flawless EP, and their best. I will also add that Seal Eyeing is hugely underrated, if only because the other three are widely held in high regard

Post **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:07 pm

It really is the icing on the cake that cobwebs and seal eyeing both happen to be great songs, cause even if they were complete shit the strength of the first two tracks alone would still make it their best EP.

Post **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:28 pm

I wholeheartedly with all the Water Curses love. Favorite EP , and maybe my favorite thing the band has ever done!

Post **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:03 pm

Yeah it'a really good and I love the production.

Post **Posted:** Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:13 am

Agree agree, wc rules my life

Post **Posted:** Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:09 am

AudibleKayak wrote:

Miguel Moura wrote:
- MPP isn't a perfect record. Daily Routine and Taste prevent it from being so.

Two of the best songs on the album prevent it from being perfect? I don't understand.

Those might be the 2 best songs ever made.

IIIIII DOOONT GET THEMMMM.... NOT THEIR HEARRTTS, THEIR TASTEEE!

THHHEEEERESS NOOO NEEEED TOOOO PROTECTT MYYYYY COMFORTSS!

FROM SERIOUS THREA EH EH EHTS THREA EH EH EH EHHHTS

EH EH TASTE!!!

Post **Posted:** Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:30 am

man I always forget how good panda's parts are in taste

Post **Posted:** Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:16 am

hot opinion: all tracks on MPP are better than their live versions

except for guys eyes if we're counting early song for ariel as the live version

Post **Posted:** Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:44 am

You don't like early era taste?

Post **Posted:** Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:41 pm

Hmm he never said that at all

Post **Posted:** Sun May 01, 2016 8:52 pm

Unsolved Mysteries is far and away the best song on Strawberry Jam, and might just be my favorite song ever.

Post **Posted:** Mon May 02, 2016 12:27 am

also Recycling is my least favorite song on PW, and i totally dont get all the hype for it, and it somehow being a "perfect song" as so many have said...

the instrumentation was really boring, and should have been played by guitars or something.. i get having a concept album.. but you know, do the right thing for the music.... but whatever.. what do i know.

as a hardcore radiohead fan.. even kid a has a some guitar tracks

Post **Posted:** Mon May 02, 2016 1:06 am

stop sticking up for the very finest dope

Post **Posted:** Mon May 02, 2016 1:37 am

"should have been played by guitars or something"

what does that even mean lol

Post **Posted:** Mon May 02, 2016 1:50 am

they had guitars on bagels...im pretty sure thats a guitar that does that little bit

Post **Posted:** Mon May 02, 2016 2:33 am

BORCHENKO?? wrote:

"should have been played by guitars or something"

what does that even mean lol

oh god

well if you cant understand what I mean is if the instruments had been guitars or piano or something... else... instead of the virtual instruments they ended up using in parts for that song... maybe if they had a... wait what am I doing.

yea guitars suck.. delete all the guitar stuff

Post **Posted:** Mon May 02, 2016 2:35 am

SpaceAnimal wrote:

BORCHENKO?? wrote:
"should have been played by guitars or something"

what does that even mean lol

another instrument

Post **Posted:** Mon May 02, 2016 8:10 am

why would guitar sucks ?

Post **Posted:** Mon May 02, 2016 2:46 pm

Post **Posted:** Mon May 02, 2016 4:03 pm

I'm not a contrarian, but I don't see anything wrong with using the AnCo acronym. Sorry if that makes me a pretentious hipster bandwagoner buzzword.

Post **Posted:** Mon May 02, 2016 4:23 pm

Anal Coll

Post **Posted:** Mon May 02, 2016 4:27 pm

why does AnCo have to be fucked with this stupid ass nickname why cant other stupid ass bands be fked with that...like BeHo!!!!! DEGR

Post **Posted:** Mon May 02, 2016 4:27 pm

Whaddit i done is one of the best songs on fking SUNG TONGS!!!!!!!!!!!

Post **Posted:** Mon May 02, 2016 5:27 pm

Whaddit = AnCo

AAANCO... TRIPLE A... N C O

Post **Posted:** Mon May 02, 2016 11:29 pm

oddsac, ttg, new psycho actives vol.1 are as good as mpp

Post **Posted:** Tue May 03, 2016 6:50 am

Geologist seems to have a lot to say for himself considering he just makes a few daft noises in the band.

Post **Posted:** Tue May 03, 2016 6:56 am

to be fair, he has by far the best stage presence.

also avey is a really terrible dancer, but it kind of fits his vocal style so whatever (i mean that endearingly)

Post **Posted:** Tue May 03, 2016 10:17 am

SpaceAnimal wrote:

BORCHENKO?? wrote:
"should have been played by guitars or something"

what does that even mean lol

oh god

well if you cant understand what I mean is if the instruments had been guitars or piano or something... else... instead of the virtual instruments they ended up using in parts for that song... maybe if they had a... wait what am I doing.

yea guitars suck.. delete all the guitar stuff

synthesizers are real instruments btw and anyone who thinks otherwise knows less about music than they think they do
also there are pianos on the album

Post **Posted:** Tue May 03, 2016 12:13 pm

I'm guessing the distinction is between synthetic guitar sounds made by a synthesizer vs "real guitar" sounds made by a guitar, rather than "fake" synthesisers vs "real" guitars

spoogn wrote:

oddsac, ttg, new psycho actives vol.1 are as good as mpp

first is better, second is maybe equal and last is worse imo

Post **Posted:** Tue May 03, 2016 4:30 pm

Pan wrote:

SpaceAnimal wrote:
BORCHENKO?? wrote:
"should have been played by guitars or something"

what does that even mean lol

oh god

well if you cant understand what I mean is if the instruments had been guitars or piano or something... else... instead of the virtual instruments they ended up using in parts for that song... maybe if they had a... wait what am I doing.

yea guitars suck.. delete all the guitar stuff

synthesizers are real instruments btw and anyone who thinks otherwise knows less about music than they think they do
also there are pianos on the album

i know they are man.. ive seen the moog documentary
i called them virtual because its synthesized sounds, not that they aren't real instruments.
even a kiddie pool is an instrument.
and I never talked about the album.. im just talking about the song recycling.
its a good song... but I cant seem to love it like so many others do

Post **Posted:** Tue May 03, 2016 6:09 pm

Pan wrote:

synthesizers are real instruments btw and anyone who thinks otherwise knows less about music than they think they do

preach

I got into an argument the other day with one of my professors over whether samplers and synths are real instruments. His overall point was "it needs to have been played 100 years ago to be a real instrument"