[Dead in Light]

StrangeClamsSequel wrote:

Dead in Light wrote:

but man, thats why i said applesauce was polyrhythmic.. its def in 4

i liked to think of it in 6/8 but hey that's me
the "i eat a mango part", the beats are on 1 and 4
the "farmer picks a good thing part", the beats are on 1, 3, 5, etc etc etc
but the band doesn't think about this stuff anyway

yeah you're right. my lol

[ZGecks]

StrangeClamsSequel wrote:

but the band doesn't think about this stuff anyway

I dunno, I think they'd have to think about it some times. It'd be pretty hard to play along with songs Slippi or Lion in a Coma without helping each other with subdivision or something.

[El Camino]

A lot of it's instinctual though, lots of bands play in weird time signatures without knowing any notation or saying "this one's gonna be in 13/8" or whatever. Plus you don't need to subdivide to play along with those songs, you just need to get into the feel of it and you'd pick up the rhythm.

[archie]

they said today's supernatural took them a while to play the whole way through because of all the time chanhes and stuff but you are right especially on this record they are very instinctual rhythms

[paperback mummy]

I'm disappointed by how little I listen to this now. I really loved it at the time and was pissed off at the lukewarm reviews I read everywhere. How can people just instinctively predict an album's longevity in the first couple weeks? I don't know but a lot of critics did.

[Dead in Light]

have you listened to it lately and liked it less? go through it again, the album's gold

[MFpotus]

also the quality of an album doesn't always indicate its longevity.

[paperback mummy]

Dead in Light wrote:

have you listened to it lately and liked it less? go through it again, the album's gold

I don't know, I guess I could... but I just don't want to. And I think that's kind of an answer in itself.

I'd have no problem revisiting Honeycomb/Gotham/Crimson though. Kind of wish the whole album was on that level, a little more minimal, but still with the typical rock band set-up and tons of textural stuff going on.

vesuv I don't know what you mean exactly. Sound quality or overall quality or what?

[MFpotus]

As in there could be a really great album and you might still eventually get tired of it. There are tons of albums that i love that i never feel like listening to. That doesn't make them any worse in my eyes, it's just that i've had my fill of them.

All those critics panning Centipede Hz probably were't concerned with it's longevity. They just didn't think the album was very good to begin with.

[MFpotus]

Or you might have just initially been so hyped up by the album's release you could never listen to the album without a fanboy bias, and now that all the hype has completely subsided you don't want to listen to it because you never even liked it very much to begin with and you were just listening to it because your favorite band made a new album and you kind of felt an obligation to listen but now there's no obligation.

Spoiler: show

thats what happened to me

Spoiler: show

jk i love this album

[El Camino]

I'm taking a break from CHZ because i definitely overplayed it, haven't listened to it in months.

[DannyBrown]

I can't stop listening to it. I need a tolerance break. Lately I just put it on and don't even think about it.

[paperback mummy]

vesuvius wrote:

Or you might have just initially been so hyped up by the album's release you could never listen to the album without a fanboy bias, and now that all the hype has completely subsided you don't want to listen to it because you never even liked it very much to begin with and you were just listening to it because your favorite band made a new album and you kind of felt an obligation to listen but now there's no obligation.

Nah, I was really into it at first. But something about it just doesn't stick. Or maybe CHz is just a casualty of my general indifference to AC, which started end of last year. I still love them and appreciate them but I think the last time I really listened was back in December.

[rampface]

Great post!

[IkoOvo]

Honestly I get psyched every time I hear Moonjock.

[El Camino]

Excellent set of posts, Aziza!

[Dead in Light]

paperback mummy wrote:

Dead in Light wrote:

have you listened to it lately and liked it less? go through it again, the album's gold

I don't know, I guess I could... but I just don't want to. And I think that's kind of an answer in itself.

its not.. i went almost nine months without listening to it at all. same reason as you, sorta. i just didnt really feel like it. threw on my wax and it was like the first time! (not the first time with visuals, though. even though it was a stream, that has remained the best listen so far)

trust me, just start it and let anco take care of the rest

[Dead in Light]

some good stuff there aziz, but is it better to point out to people who think they "don't have chops" that they do in fact have crasy chops? i only bring it up because people always want to trash that element about these guys, when they are musicians. both in a practical sense and impractical.. didnt at least half the band spend time in music school? i mean they perform prolifically, have proficient knowledge on the instruments they use (particularly on this record. fucking geo, man. god damn spelunking pioneer...), and write it all don't get me wrong, i like pretty much everything about your post. just that 'non-musician musicians' thing.. theyre hard-working musicians, plain and simple

and was it rampface who made that diagram or something a wqhile ago about CHz being the end and beginning for anco? reading that part in azizas post got me thinking about it and now i want to read it without reading everything.. hah

[Dead in Light]

thanks for clarifying, we definitely have the same opinions here. and i only bring it up because, like you mentioned, CHz is their best in terms of traditional musicianship. i didnt know they said that exactly, brian of course is the least 'musician-y' of all of them.. but its that same personal language that i think validates what they do as musicianship! and while they might see it the same way even out of respect to people who can do things that they can not, panda's experience particularly since that interview is what i would source to validate my opinion the extensive touring he did for tomboy before and after recording it and then playing all that CHz and he isn't even the one who keeps getting sick. the guys got some serious chops.. but i guess its the same view as black dice. youre not a musician unless you have that savvy

[Dead in Light]

oh man, i wasnt tryin to fight or anything.. i was asking because i knew you thought of them as more than that but you still made reference to them not having chops.. i guess i missed something, really didnt want to come of as indignant

[El Camino]

I think you'd be great at album reviewing or writing about music on a blog/site!

[lucasmoreira]

yeah, great posts Aziza, is always nice to read something very passionate like that

[terrestrialjane]

I bet your from another time period aren't yah Aziza ?

[terrestrialjane]

We are a one of a kind brotha

[rampface]

I don't ever feel the same about this record each time I hear it. It always sounds different depending on my mood and surroundings. Weird.

[El Camino]

Yeah i get that sort of thing from a lot of really layered and/or dense albums, CHZ definitely rewards repeated listens and attention.

[Tico]

this album is very disconcerting. in a good way. i cant remember who but someone said listening all the way through is so jarring/such an ordeal because of the mixing. this is a good thing though, it makes songs out of context of the album so strong

[hatredcopter]

rosie oh is the best time

[GeckoSushi]

I think its funny that most critics didn't catch that the non-instrumental sounds in the songs are being strung together in a way really accentuates the other instruments quite well. How anyone could think of it as just random sounds is beyond me.

and speaking of Rosie Oh, that springy sound that goes "wherr wherr wherr" makes the song go from great to amazing.

[Stanshant]

I'm sure they had some artistic invention in mind but listening to something like Water Curses, which pre-empts that electronic/live/post-production thing they're doing on CHz, there seems to be much more method to the madness. Simply, there's just a lot more space for the SFX to take their place in the song structure. CHz often seems messy, there's no definition to any instrument or sound because it's so fucking cluttered. It's like taking the contents of the Vatican museum and piling them up in a multistorey car park. Only with Ben Allen 'The' so-called 'Third' flicking the lights on and off like a big fucking wally.

FUCK OFF BEN
FUCK OFF ALLEN
FUCK OFF III

[GeckoSushi]

I think it's because of the compression on the album, when I hear those songs live they don't sound nearly as cluttered.

[Tico]

they just wanted an album full of jams

[archie]

Tico wrote:

they just wanted an album full of jams

[StrangeClams]

Stanshant wrote:

It's like taking the contents of the Vatican museum and piling them up in a multistory car park.

and the car park is next to a taco bell and the pope ordered a huge shipment of burritos to feed the swiss guard
but then dude spills all the burritos all of the pope mobile's windshield
and dave portner recorded the whole interaction and he has this dastardly smile and he's like
"fuck yes"

[Dead in Light]

hey man, i like the sludge.

[Tico]

i think after 3ish years and 4 very strange and off-beat film/solo/ep projects the worst thing we couldve expected is some perfect mpp-stepup orgy album with intense feels.. CHz is just right for where AC was at and we should like it for what it is

[the underground man]

The live DVD that came with the record is still fab

[crikit]

Stanshant wrote:

I'm sure they had some artistic invention in mind but listening to something like Water Curses, which pre-empts that electronic/live/post-production thing they're doing on CHz, there seems to be much more method to the madness. Simply, there's just a lot more space for the SFX to take their place in the song structure. CHz often seems messy, there's no definition to any instrument or sound because it's so fucking cluttered. It's like taking the contents of the Vatican museum and piling them up in a multistorey car park. Only with Ben Allen 'The' so-called 'Third' flicking the lights on and off like a big fucking wally.

FUCK OFF BEN
FUCK OFF ALLEN
FUCK OFF III

is there a hall of fame for worst posts ever?

[Stanshant]

Yeah, here you go:

http://collectedanimals.org/search.php? ... 2&sr=posts

Spoiler: show

lol your dead

[Dead in Light]

Lol snap crikit you dunn crossed a line