Collected Animals • Painting With

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Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:20 pm

Catbus93 wrote:

I agree with the people who feel like the handling of ''Painting With'' so far is a bit of a disservice to the fans. This is an especially lackluster marketing campaign, and just kind of lazy in my opinion.

The band says ''the silence will be broken'' but in all actuality we have almost no information given directly from the band.

With Chz, they immersed us in the radio element trying as much as possible to evoke a sense of the Star Wars cantina band vibe.

I get the reasoning behind playing the album at a childhood hangout, but that is something that only satisfies the band itself. Just coldly releasing a single is just about the most un-rewarding experience. I want to know more about how the group came together and created this new thing!

We had Oneohetrix Point Never create an extremely bizaare rabbit hole through his website, which really helped promote his headspace behind his new album "G.O.D''. Besides that he was releasing statements, interviews, writings, and other ephemera centered around his new work. That was one guy, with a much smaller budget... yet he was able to successfully transfer a since of context to the masses.

It's really the sole job of Animal Collective to make music, so is their another reason why they chose to be as far removed from their own album release as possible? They have the freedom to literally do whatever they want with their album promotion, so why do nothing at all?

Theres my opinion, though I'm sure many people will gloss over it like most times I try to stir up a little talk

But there are like three interviews already, also a press release from Domino.

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:28 pm

Catbus93 wrote:

I agree with the people who feel like the handling of ''Painting With'' so far is a bit of a disservice to the fans. This is an especially lackluster marketing campaign, and just kind of lazy in my opinion.

The band says ''the silence will be broken'' but in all actuality we have almost no information given directly from the band.

With Chz, they immersed us in the radio element trying as much as possible to evoke a sense of the Star Wars cantina band vibe.

I get the reasoning behind playing the album at a childhood hangout, but that is something that only satisfies the band itself. Just coldly releasing a single is just about the most un-rewarding experience. I want to know more about how the group came together and created this new thing!

We had Oneohetrix Point Never create an extremely bizaare rabbit hole through his website, which really helped promote his headspace behind his new album "G.O.D''. Besides that he was releasing statements, interviews, writings, and other ephemera centered around his new work. That was one guy, with a much smaller budget... yet he was able to successfully transfer a since of context to the masses.

It's really the sole job of Animal Collective to make music, so is their another reason why they chose to be as far removed from their own album release as possible? They have the freedom to literally do whatever they want with their album promotion, so why do nothing at all?

Theres my opinion, though I'm sure many people will gloss over it like most times I try to stir up a little talk

Get fucked

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:29 pm

great first post! welcome!

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:33 pm

Vovenarg wrote:

great first post! welcome!

Cheers, I'm a lurker and I'll prob never post again but that post was so bad I just had to register and tell him to get fucked ya know

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:36 pm

Delete that^ post and your legacy will be secured

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:39 pm

Thank you, GetFucked, and welcome to the board

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:42 pm

Well, that's just an opinion, why attack the guy?

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:05 pm

This forum used to be chull now everyone's wiggin. Pretty sure AC would be like, "guys it's just a music album be patient hehehe"

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:56 pm

mildew_on_rice wrote:

This forum used to be chull now everyone's wiggin. Pretty sure AC would be like, "guys it's just a music album be patient hehehe"

Everyone's chill only when there's not an imminent release date coming.
As soon as the album is announced, many people hop on the hype train to impatient town. Or at least that's my experience ever since the MPP announcement.

There's so much other music out there and things in life to past the time until February. Go grab a canvas, some brushes, some AC records and start painting with the band if you want to experience the best kind of hype for this album

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:00 pm

Spoiler: show

But there are like three interviews already, also a press release from Domino.[/quote]Here's a good interview that explains a lot of their process behind the new album
http://www.factmag.com/2015/12/09/anima ... ting-with/

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:30 pm

W(h)inners

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:33 pm

this went from best thread to worst thread in about 2.7 pages

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:35 pm

What's memefork gonna give this album boys? I'm feeling a strong 4 light 5 with a side of burrito on the windshield

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:46 pm

csw wrote:

this went from best thread to worst thread in about 2.7 pages

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:47 pm

lets delete the thread and start again

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:52 pm

We can have a garden of delete

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:57 pm

christ this band owes you nothing you should be grateful for what you have

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:04 pm

Wow some of these posts are ridiculous. Just be patient. The record is finished and coming. A tour is happening. You have a single. You have 30 second samples. Interviews. A new era is happening. Just wait for it.

Not to mention all of the other releases that have come in the past couple of years (Slasher Flicks, Meets the Grim Reaper, New Psycho Actives, Live @ 9:30, Michael Remember). I would say the reason I'm such a huge fan of AC is because they are constantly active with something. Some artists/bands take several years with absolutely nothing new. AC has put out material and plenty of art to digest every single year. I don't understand how someone could feel so entitled.

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:05 pm

This is why the band doesn't post here anymore.

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:07 pm

So I guess this forum has stooped down to the tier of 4chan. Shame, it used to be a cool place with some intelligent discussion thrown in. I guess my opinions go above your head too much, so you stoop down to petty two word insults because your taste has been criticized. No wonder the band stopped posting here long ago,

If it isn't a meme, than you can't process it right?

Please, at what point did I whine or complain without a valid reason? I'm sure if some of you played music, you would understand what my comment was inciting. If the bad wants to do a poor job of selling their album, what better way than to release a single without a murmur and offer nothing to entice its fan base. It's not like the 10th album of any band is going to ride on its musical sleeves alone. If the band is going to meet people half-way and they need to actually bring people around to the idea that this 10th album is offering something worthwhile. It's kind of a shot in the foot. They are expecting some kind of air of mystery to attract an audience, but in actuality its just a deafening empty-ness. The masses/blogs/critical listener is not hanging on the edge of their seat JUST because Animal Collective played their 10th album in an airport. Obviously someone here agrees, as it's a logical point.

Even the artwork seems hastily made, which I guess embodies the whole idea of this album's concept? It seems very unthoughtful to me, which is the opposite case with their actual music-making process.

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:15 pm

Meme the fuck outta here

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:16 pm

csw wrote:

this went from best thread to worst thread in about 2.7 pages

And unfortunately it seems like it's going to keep going. Everybody has to throw in their comment, "Just be patient bro" because there is nothing else to talk about. Let's just debate over the proper way to feel about an imminent AC album release between now and February-- everybody keep making sure to throw in your inspirational lectures-- and by February maybe we'll have 27 pages of this.

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:26 pm

I don't understand who is trollin' and who is serious now. It can be taken either way.

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:29 pm

Look, this might be a controversial statement but...

I like the band Animal Collective and I'm very much looking forward to the February 2016 release of their album Painting With featuring the single "FloriDada."

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:32 pm

Whoa just take it easy bro. Patience is a virtue. Go read some Confucius or your Bible or something. We have a release date, just chill the fuck out until then.

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:34 pm

alright, bye folks

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:37 pm

I can feel satan in this forum tonight.

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:41 pm

godzillalotus wrote:

Whoa just take it easy bro. Patience is a virtue. Go read some Confucius or your Bible or something. We have a release date, just chill the fuck out until then.

man, take it easy, don't freak him out. he's looking forward way too much already.

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:44 pm

This forum has degraded into pure asburgers and I love it

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:48 pm

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:49 pm

^lollll. worst timeline.

yal think this thread is troubling, im failing out of grad school all becuz this album didnt come out on black friday like i expected so now im failing becuz i cant do any school work if im not listening to this album

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:52 pm

Once FloriDada hit 30 plays on my iTunes I started sleeping in a coffin.

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:53 pm

Currently going through the entire discog and solo albums getting hyped for this. Ready to have my mind blown again.

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:54 pm

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:55 pm

Thanks, Barack OBUMMER, for not freebirding Painting With as you are OBLIGATED to by the Constitution. You have lost the trust of the American people and no one will vote for you in 2016

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:07 pm

godzillalotus wrote:

Whoa just take it easy bro. Patience is a virtue. Go read some Confucius or your Bible or something. We have a release date, just chill the fuck out until then.

NO I DEMAND MUSIC NOW. I DESERVE IT BECAUSE IM A SPECIAL BOY

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:09 pm

Victor Borge wrote:

Oh shit hahahahahahaha

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:30 pm

Victor Borge wrote:

amazing

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:22 pm

I find the visual aspect of this record to be the most intriguing element so far. I wonder if they'll release any music videos for any of the songs.
If they do it'd be cool if they used old Dada or Surrealist films as inspiration. But I'd be satisfied with just the zoetropic slip mat. I'm so excited for that to arrive. The artist Elliot Schultz does some awesome animations http://elliotschultz.com/work/embroidered-zoetrope/

Also, I'm curious if Avey will wear face paint for the tour. He seems to love that shit

Post **Posted:** Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:23 pm

Catbus93 wrote:

So I guess this forum has stooped down to the tier of 4chan. Shame, it used to be a cool place with some intelligent discussion thrown in. I guess my opinions go above your head too much, so you stoop down to petty two word insults because your taste has been criticized. No wonder the band stopped posting here long ago,

If it isn't a meme, than you can't process it right?

Please, at what point did I whine or complain without a valid reason? I'm sure if some of you played music, you would understand what my comment was inciting. If the bad wants to do a poor job of selling their album, what better way than to release a single without a murmur and offer nothing to entice its fan base. It's not like the 10th album of any band is going to ride on its musical sleeves alone. If the band is going to meet people half-way and they need to actually bring people around to the idea that this 10th album is offering something worthwhile. It's kind of a shot in the foot. They are expecting some kind of air of mystery to attract an audience, but in actuality its just a deafening empty-ness. The masses/blogs/critical listener is not hanging on the edge of their seat JUST because Animal Collective played their 10th album in an airport. Obviously someone here agrees, as it's a logical point.

Even the artwork seems hastily made, which I guess embodies the whole idea of this album's concept? It seems very unthoughtful to me, which is the opposite case with their actual music-making process.

Spoiler: show

Look, you make salient points and raise some interesting questions regarding what it means/what is involved in marketing an album these days. There's a clear trend toward creating tertiary experiences to the music for fans to explore and get hyped - and it's tough sometimes to discern if it's a thoughtful design for fans to enjoy, or just something the record companies feel obliged to tack on in order to stand out amongst the crowd. Obviously, we'd all sooner have the Oneohtrix point never and NIN-esque world-building/scavenger hunts - and AC has proven themselves capable in the past, like you said, with Centipede Radio & all the amazing things that came with the release of PBVGR.

I don't think, if we're looking to discuss the trends and how Painting With fits in, that you can just go "we've gotten so much already!" That's a cheap way out of the discussion, but this is a fan forum in the months of anticipation to a new release, so you're only going to have a few types of discussions anyway.

I'll admit that I'm a bit bummed out, with you and the other few that have mentioned it so far in this thread before getting chased out, that we haven't got a real taste of the mystery or rollout besides a few cryptic Instagrams or the airport stream (which I do like, as an idea). Press releases and interviews are par for the course with an album announcement. It seems to me, given the precedent in the industry that you discussed, or even the precedent set by the band itself, that for some there is a bit of an expectation.

But at the end of the day, the expectation is a false construct. We're allowed to feel bummed and disappointed, no one can tell you how to feel, but it's ridiculous to turn that disappointment onto the band and claim that they were the ones who let you down. YOU let yourself down, I let myself down, by latching onto the precedents and expecting certain things. But we're not owed anything, and because of that, this certainly isn't a "disservice to the fans".

I think it's fine if you want to have an intelligent discussion about this rollout in comparison to rollouts on large or even in contrast to previous AC rollouts. I don't know if lengthy discussion could hold out given the climate of the forum, but I respect you for kinda trying. It's lame how much immature shade was tossed your way, given that there was some value in what you brought up. What I don't like, and what people are certainly latching onto here, is the language you frame your points with. There's a lot of presumptions being made about "unthoughtful artwork" and them being "as far removed from their own album release as possible". We can discuss how it's made us feel, but it's ridiculous to turn that into "the band has slighted us". Not to mention you ended your first post with a backhanded slap to the community, and led your second post with an even bigger one. What did you expect in a reaction?

Also, fwiw, we're still 2 months off. Netflix doesn't even announce new programming until 1 month before its released - then the marketing starts. 2 months is a long time, especially with xmas in the middle. I wouldn't write off any off-the-wall marketing plans just yet.