Collected Animals • Painting With

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Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:33 am

I totally agree. But really those reviewers jobs, above critiquing, is to make controversial or memorable quotes so that more people notice what they have to say and in turn more people visit the site. They are well aware of the large super fanbase AC has spawned and they are totally capatializing on it

A bad review of a popular artist usually means more people will check out that review

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:43 am

After reading those reviews I can't help but wonder: Is it cool to hate on Animal Collective? Obviously I don't think it's cool, but after all the MPP glory it's like people feel obligated to do it, haha. At least this band is taking risks

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:48 am

Coolness is having courage

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:10 am

Texas Trill wrote:

Coolness is having courage

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:33 am

how do these people that write these reviews (particularly the one that trails off like a tumblr post) even get writing jobs lol

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:49 am

they have jobs for the reasons that Texas Trill posted. it gets clicks

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:55 am

the description of Hocus Pocus from the Union Transfer event page has me so amped.

Spoiler: show

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:48 am

FEEL ON1NE!!! wrote:

how do these people that write these reviews (particularly the one that trails off like a tumblr post) even get writing jobs lol

without being flippant, if you like writing and music and think you could do better than try to get a job doing it yourself! not that it would change all the shitty writers

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:31 am

I'd be surprised if those reviews are written with more than 1 or 2 listens.

The thing that I find personally about AnCo's discography is that I can go back and listen to songs I've heard many many times, and when I'm sitting and actually paying attention, I'll find harmonies (panda singing in the background of some song) or instruments, or sound textures, or patterns I didn't notice before.

There's this deep complexity to the music that you really can't just "review" with a listen.

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:02 am

I'm pretty sure the reviewers gave it at least 5 listens or so. Tbh, the song is somewhat polarizing and I kind of expected some critics to pan it. It's not like everyone should have to 'get it' before they finalize their reviews. A lot of these people just don't care for Animal Collective, and I never expect an individual to like Animal Collective. They can throw whatever scores they want around, so long as I get what Animal Collective wants to release to us.

I honestly wouldn't even say that that site is relevant anyway; I mean, who are these people again?

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:19 am

I always wonder how long music reviewers get the music before the review is published?

A lot of music takes significant time to take it and digest.

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:58 am

wrote:

I got tix for Seattle and Portland. I bought 3 extra tickets to Seattle for my friends in case they don't get em during the general sale. If I still have extra after the general sale and you need them, hit me up.

Thanks, that's awesome

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:23 am

WHENS THE BANNER CHANGIN? dont tell me

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:44 am

BulimicVegetarian wrote:

I got tix for Seattle and Portland.

whaaaa?? presale isn't til 10 am (8 hours from now)

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:44 pm

PDX pre-sale worked for me two days ago. Try it again!

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:34 pm

http://www.factmag.com/2015/12/09/anima ... ting-with/

new interview with animal collective

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:50 pm

great interview after they were savaged by single reviews. interesting about live performances and 'demoitis'. will they ever promote an album without mentioning wanting to sound 'organic'?

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:51 pm

kbakz wrote:

http://www.factmag.com/2015/12/09/animal-collective-interview-painting-with/

new interview with animal collective

"Lennox: There was another intent to doing it that way. At least in the past bunch of years, it seems like it’s common for people to come to the shows and record them and pass around the recordings on the internet. Which is a great thing, and I think we like that a lot. But it also means that people’s first impression of the song is that live version or live recording, and then when the studio version comes out one can get attached to that first impression so I think it was exciting for us to present a version where the studio version is the first impression. The jury is still out on that, but we’ll see how it works."

lol who does that..?

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:56 pm

sledgehammer wrote:

kbakz wrote:
http://www.factmag.com/2015/12/09/animal-collective-interview-painting-with/

new interview with animal collective

lol who does that..?

lots of people

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:06 pm

I am a professional music writer, and I can tell you guys that the exact reason the reviews are like that is because it gets people to read them. I love Floridada, but if it would get my site more traffic to pan it, I could easily write a christgau-esque three line shit soliloquy and that would be that.

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:24 pm

kbakz wrote:

http://www.factmag.com/2015/12/09/animal-collective-interview-painting-with/

new interview with animal collective

this is a sweet one

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:30 pm

I take the demoitis thing as a direct response to my entitled embittered moaning on the forum for the past few years. I hope they've paid close attention to all my suggestions. This could be a decent album if so.

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:56 pm

amber wrote:

kbakz wrote:
http://www.factmag.com/2015/12/09/animal-collective-interview-painting-with/

new interview with animal collective

this is a sweet one

Such a stark contrast to the egregious shit-fest they did on FloriDada.

Speaking as a former journalist and sensible human being, I think everyone is entitled to their opinion, and of course as a critic you're paid to share that opinion, but I just feel like that FloriDada review page was bizarre and over the top. They referred to it as self-parody, didn't they? That reminds me of the embarrassing Pitchfork review of Belle and Sebastian's The Boy With the Arab Strap, where they gave it a 0.1 and said B&S were just a self-parody with that album. It's understandably been removed from the site.

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:58 pm

jökulá ljóssins wrote:

PDX pre-sale worked for me two days ago. Try it again!

how weird, i must not know how to work the site then. nothing has shown up for me the last few days except "presale begins Dec. 9 at 10 am"
roseland yeah?

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:07 pm

oh well just got a couple

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:14 pm

theres a live subforum where you can talk about live shows
theres a live subforum where you can talk about live shows

Seriously, this is noise for anyone who's not going to the PDX show or Irving Plaza show.
It's just good practice guys

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:28 pm

shutthefuck up, i was responding to a specific comment needing help. no one going to the PDX show has even posted in the live section. thanks.

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:29 pm

Oh man the press photo of them from that interview is one of the best ever.

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:07 pm

Hellomark wrote:

Oh man the press photo of them from that interview is one of the best ever.

I want PB's hoodie

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:40 pm

Vovenarg wrote:

shutthefuck up, i was responding to a specific comment needing help. no one going to the PDX show has even posted in the live section. thanks.

Except he's right, buddy my buddy. Turn down your agro pls

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:19 pm

the tour announcement and presale is the biggest thing to happen this week, obviously discussion should move to the live forum eventually but give people a break, they are excited

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:21 pm

yeah, if he responded to the guy in an entire other forum, he almost certainly would not have seen it.

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:15 pm

I disagree with all you, you fucking nerds

Post **Posted:** Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:39 pm

scrambledgreggs wrote:

Hellomark wrote:
Oh man the press photo of them from that interview is one of the best ever.

I want PB's hoodie

I really like it too, made by Supreme but looks like it is long gone: http://www.supremenewyork.com/previews/ ... kets/j28-3

Post **Posted:** Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:02 am

Andrew_VB wrote:

yeah, if he responded to the guy in an entire other forum, he almost certainly would not have seen it.

hey yall sorry to fovrodi, i took his message personal. this ^ is why i had to respond here, especially when i thought i was missing presale and then presale was 3 minutes away from starting.
k i'll shut up about live tour now. sorry so much for the NOOIIIISE!!

Post **Posted:** Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:07 am

when a review deals with a band beeing cool or not, it's done for me

Post **Posted:** Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:31 am

This should freebird now. It's moved on to the second page of CA now, which means the new approach-- not testing the songs live and giving us bootlegs-- is defeating the hype.

Post **Posted:** Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:09 pm

just occurred to me "painting with..." might be in part a reference to these jammies -

.... the Buchla music Easel....

.which makes a lot of those brassy , woody synth sounds thru owt

hope its goo times ! wotch that freebird shit.......xpk

Post **Posted:** Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:14 pm

Ughhh it's so close! Petek I need this! I am not doing well mentally and my life has spiraled out of control. Last night the only thing stopping me from doing something awful was my daughter and missing the new AC. I know that seems outrageous but their music really means something to me.

Post **Posted:** Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:15 pm