Collected Animals • Will AC ever create an album better than MPP?

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Post **Posted:** Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:34 pm

I'm just curious to see if you all believe animal collective will ever create an album that surpasses MPP in musical genious? Also, where do you believe Animal Collective will go next with their music? Personally I believe that they will begin to use more samples and possibly even start doing 3 or 4 part harmonies using deaken and geologist. Thoughts and opinions?

Post **Posted:** Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:39 pm

Nah they're never gonna match it. They should probably just quit making music.

Post **Posted:** Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:40 pm

i dont think mpp is their best record but i think it'll will stay their biggest success critically and commercially.. i think next record will be sample based and more accessible... i think the mixed reaction to chz and pandas new sound will influence a bit of a return to that mpp sound...

Post **Posted:** Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:52 pm

What would you say your favorite album is popadam? Personally for me it's a close tie between sung tongs and mpp

Post **Posted:** Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:42 pm

Did you think before creating this thread?

Post **Posted:** Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:51 pm

I signed in from my phone (which is a chore, mind you) just to say

1. mpp isn't their "best album"
2. does it matter
3. each album is so different that it seems silly to say stuff like "man, don't think they could ever beat that!" or "i hope they change their sound!"

Post **Posted:** Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:19 pm

i personally like feels the most but there isnt a best album... its opinion based and w music this good u can expect opinions to differ

i really hope they have some great records still left in them

Post **Posted:** Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:35 pm

I mean not to say that MPP is their best album, I just find it has reached the most critical and commercial success. So I guess to rephrase this, do you believe animal collective will ever release another album to that much critical acclaim and success. Also, purely through opinion of course, I feel that on MPP every song is amazing and could be a personal favorite, while on other albums by AC, the bulk is good but some songs tend to be weaker.

Tldr;There best album is based on opinion. MPP reached their highest critical/commercial fame

Post **Posted:** Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:54 pm

I don't think they'll ever match MPP's critical and commercial success. It's not a simple question of: can the band ever produce something like that again? Because critical and commercial success involve many other factors. Popular music (meaning music with a wide appeal, not just pop music but all genres: rock, pop, funk, hip hop, etc) is a constantly changing landscape, and what may be considered cool or hip at any given point is subject to change at a moment's notice.

When Merriweather came out, it just so happened that the musical climate into which it was born was extremely receptive to its (arguably) quite idiosyncratic style, leading to universal hype. I really don't think AC try very hard or at all to adapt to the current music scene, so if you think about it, this is a huge coincidence and sort of crazy. Same goes for Person Pitch. And for that reason I'd say it's very unlikely that AC will ever release something as popular or critically acclaimed as either of those albums.

Post **Posted:** Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:42 pm

Next album won't be sample based. I do see them trying out harmonies again though.

Post **Posted:** Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:47 pm

Victor_Borge wrote:

I don't think they'll ever match MPP's critical and commercial success

Man, they'll make more, but they won't make that one again

Spoiler: show

Post **Posted:** Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:18 am

MPP feels like such an amalgamation of AC, and perhaps the last decade of boundary pushing music. I think if they're to create an album of such intensity again they'll have to make something that speaks of the future before the future speaks itself.

Post **Posted:** Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:33 am

I agree with the critical and commercial success part, but as others ahve said, there are no "best" AC albums.

In my opinion the only thing that is a concrete opinion is which AC album is YOUR favorite one. With a band that has so many albums all of differing musical offerings it's hard to say there is a concrete #1. My fav is CHz as of now but I know i'll change my mind in a month.

Post **Posted:** Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:01 am

I don't know why, but I'm expecting the next album to sound like a cross between mpp and down there, with heavier beats

I am so sure of this it will now be with every post I ever make

Post **Posted:** Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:58 am

I hope the new stuff sounds like that song avey DJ'd with the panda harmonies. that would be sweet.

Post **Posted:** Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:19 am

Revenge of the Fly (For a White Guy)

Post **Posted:** Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:28 am

panda told me new album is just mpp in a capella form so they definitely haven't reached their best form yet

Post **Posted:** Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:36 am

clayton wrote:

Revenge of the Fly (For a White Guy)

lol

Post **Posted:** Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:39 am

you could say the same about feels. or sung tongs

Post **Posted:** Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:01 am

I think that commercial and critical success was the result of perfect timing. They were one of the first modern acts to use samples live in a way that makes their electronic music sound human again. I think this resonated so well with the public as a sort of backlash against the digital age with everything being so connected, so on time, so rhythmic, every day in and out. You have your very specific schedule which is in a sense digitized; able to be represented by 0's and 1's. So songs like "Taste" with the dragged out beat that pushed you to the edge of your seat and doesn't fall where you expect it, wakes something up in you.

There's a lot more to MPP than some killer tunes.

Post **Posted:** Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:10 pm

Next album will be PC music

Post **Posted:** Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:57 pm

vilent_sibrate wrote:

I think that commercial and critical success was the result of perfect timing. They were one of the first modern acts to use samples live in a way that makes their electronic music sound human again. I think this resonated so well with the public as a sort of backlash against the digital age with everything being so connected, so on time, so rhythmic, every day in and out. You have your very specific schedule which is in a sense digitized; able to be represented by 0's and 1's. So songs like "Taste" with the dragged out beat that pushed you to the edge of your seat and doesn't fall where you expect it, wakes something up in you.

There's a lot more to MPP than some killer tunes.

Absolutely agreed. Also think about the fact that Merriweather tones down many of AC's less palatable qualities: 7-minute+ song lengths, harsh bursts of noise, and Avey screams (minus Brosport, but they're at least a little harder to hear in the studio version). It's not just the use of samplers that foreshadowed future trends either. Merriweather's use of ambient space, repetitive song structure and dreamy/spacey sound fit quite nicely into the chillwave paradigm, regardless of whether or not the band were trying to—and of course I don't think they were.

But yeah, I'd definitely agree that there's more to the album than just great songs.

Post **Posted:** Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:07 pm

It's a pop masterpiece and one of the top three greatest albums I've ever heard. Not a weak track on it, I've listened daily for years now and it seriously doesn't get old.

Does that mean I want them to go back to that sound again.? Hell no. Will they ever reach that level of commercial success again? I don't know, I'm not a fortune teller. But damn, what I would give to make an album so perfect.

Post **Posted:** Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:45 pm

Hah 4 part harmonies. That's hilarious.
I do believe that CHz is better than MPP but it's not a competition. There isn't just one sweet one they must reach for, then they're done.... They can all be amazing. That said, I do feel that MPP is probably the most well conceived in terms of consistency and unity.

Post **Posted:** Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:39 am

Will AC ever make MPP again? Like just attempt to re-record it in the exact same way? And then re-release it on vinyl too? And then tour it again touring the exact same dates and venues?

Post **Posted:** Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:43 am

well since time is a flat circle, they already have, an infinite number of times, and will again an infinite number of times

Post **Posted:** Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:44 am

(btw, what kind of circle isn't flat? a circle is a 2 dimensional shape)

Post **Posted:** Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:32 am

roopn wrote:

I don't know why, but I'm expecting the next album to sound like a cross between mpp and down there, with heavier beats

I am so sure of this it will now be with every post I ever make

Post **Posted:** Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:56 pm

i think their next might be more out there than chz

Post **Posted:** Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:18 pm

coollodges wrote:

Will AC ever make MPP again? Like just attempt to re-record it in the exact same way? And then re-release it on vinyl too? And then tour it again touring the exact same dates and venues?

They should do exactly this but add exactly 1 more "woo!" on Brothersport and see if anyone notices

Post **Posted:** Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:00 pm

To just agree with most of you.....MMP is not their best album, nor should any of their albums be given such tittle! Im happy you have one album you really like, but its you opinion ...not a fact. Mine is 'Feels" but thats irrelevant.

Post **Posted:** Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:07 am

Vovenarg wrote:

(btw, what kind of circle isn't flat? a circle is a 2 dimensional shape)

damn lol
:hm:

Post **Posted:** Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:06 am

Why is MPP the best Anco album ever made?

Post **Posted:** Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:15 am

On one hand I lold but on the other hand I had to watch that stupid fucking scene again

Post **Posted:** Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:04 pm

clayton wrote:

On one hand I lold but on the other hand I had to watch that stupid fucking scene again

lol made a lot of good points but jesus christ it was the most bitchy moment i've ever seen of any TV show

Post **Posted:** Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:27 pm

csw wrote:

Why is MPP the best Anco album ever made?

its not bro, far from their most creative work!!!! It being a fun album should not justify it as their best!

Post **Posted:** Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:50 pm

Yeah, I agree that it's not. That crown goes to HCTI. Just stretching to make a joke lol

Post **Posted:** Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:11 am

Idk, I hope so. I agree with a lot of peeps here, and don't really define any album as "best," though I do have faves and least faves. I hope they reach that height of critical/commercial success again, it would just be cool to see my animals succeeding like mufuckas and in the limelight again. I think they could do it.

I sometimes wonder what the dynamic is like these days within the band. (though I know it's not really any of my business haha.) I want them to sync up and spend a lot of time together and just feel good enjoying each other's company. Anyway, who knows. I loved the acoustic versions of the CHZ songs, and also love the fuck out of New Psycho Actives. I'd be stoked if they took their next 'bum in either of those directions, though i'll probably like whatever they do haha.

Peace out, fellow animals!

Post **Posted:** Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:11 pm

Victor Borge wrote:

coollodges wrote:
Will AC ever make MPP again? Like just attempt to re-record it in the exact same way? And then re-release it on vinyl too? And then tour it again touring the exact same dates and venues?

They should do exactly this but add exactly 1 more "woo!" on Brothersport and see if anyone notices

I know I'm months late to this but yes

Post **Posted:** Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:11 am

A lot of people (not me) thought Sufjan Stevens was "done" after The Age Of Adz, but now Carrie & Lowell looks like it could end up becoming his most successful record yet. So idk, maybe a similar thing could happen to AC.