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Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:50 am

where did you hear that that is what the band wanted? not doubting you or anything just curious.

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:57 am

after reading some of these comments i agree that i wouldn't be surprised if grim reaper has a lot of influence on this album. if thats the case, i could totally see them going for a more groovy dance vibe (like brothersport as someone mentioned). also hoping the vocals aren't completely dominated by avey like on chz. i would like to see more panda tracks. a nice 50/50 split of avey/panda songs would be great, ideally a bunch of tracks with both of them doing awesome harmonies.

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:04 am

coollodges wrote:

where did you hear that that is what the band wanted? not doubting you or anything just curious.

http://thequietus.com/articles/09742-in ... ibb-deakin

wrote:

With ODDSAC, that's always referred to as a 'visual album' as opposed to an album proper; why is that, and do you think that the link between music and video is something that needs to be explored more?

D: We were actually pretty frustrated by that - even in some interviews, like today, it's like "this is the first thing you've done since Merriweather" and part of me wants to be like "that's not true". That was a thing where I felt like we had a really simple idea and part of the problem was that Pitchfork wouldn't review it as a record, 'cos it wasn't a record, and literally I think that's what kept it from being...

PB: Do you think it was just that?

D: No, I'm using that as one example, I'm not blaming it on you Pitchfork! I'm just saying look, I think in general, our press people had a really hard time getting outlets that generally talk about records to review or talk about it, because to them it was like a DVD and that was a different department.

It's an album, the music for which they recorded in the studio. The fact that it's a visual album doesn't change that.

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:24 am

and it's one o dere best

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:26 am

What's wrong with Deaks vocals? I think they're lovely personally. I would love to hear more of him in the front even in the harmony parts actually. More harmonies in general too.

I don't care where they go next time. I hope it's darker though, it'd be cool to see Avey continue that route. And I remember when I saw Avey at Nuemos the other week for Slasher they were doing some cool kind of free jazz in between songs. I'd like to hear more of that!

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:36 am

Vovenarg wrote:

and it's one o dere best

yess

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:58 am

Spoiler: show

cool I had never seen that before. Just to play devils advocate here, avey is saying he wants the album to be reviewed and looked at by the press like a normal album(the difference being that it has a visual component), but not that it is necessarily their tenth album proper. You're right that it is recorded in a studio though, and therefore is a studio album, but again devil's advocate here, you could argue that it is basically a movie with a soundtrack, and is therefore categorized differently than their other studio albums.

But if I'm not playin devils advocate then yeah I s'pose it is their 10th album.

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:07 am

sorry that was Deakin there

yeah you're right he didn't specifically say "it's our tenth studio album" but I think the fact that people weren't treating it like a "proper album" was what was annoying him

also I think it's not quite a movie-with-a-soundtrack (where the sountrack part is typically just an accompaniment to the actual move) just like it's not quite an album-with-a-music-video (since music videos tend to be just an accompaniment to the actual music), since both the music and the visual parts were worked on in the same period and influenced each other so much

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:22 am

yeah it is definitely a "visual album" over being a "movie + soundtrack". I think because it is a visual album, and not just an album, people still want to make a distinction for whatever reason. Sucks that the overall hype of oddsac was hurt by the need to distinguish between the two.

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:01 am

My vote:

Electronic Campfire Song-ish. A return to earth through the light. AC's Young Prayer. No drums. An understated release - they've done the glam rock star thing. Acoustic and electronic soundscapes reverberating through real physical aural environments.

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:05 am

I love deakin singin and I want it to happen a lot more. <3

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:24 pm

I personally hope the album will be something noone had ever expected

And second i think avey says in the reddit ama that he counts oddsac and hollinn as studio albums.(hes describing all of their albums with one word) and in there i remember it as he also mentions hollinn and oddsac.

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:41 pm

My one main hope is that the songs are all given some room to breathe...CHz and ETSH both sounded a bit stuffy and maybe overly in-your-face to me.

I loved their acoustic takes Wide Eyed and Pulleys and always thought it'd be nice to have an era with that style (loved panda using a tabla for percussion too) though I guess they have done the acoustic thing a number of times before so it's probably unreasonable to expect that again.

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:25 pm

scarybaeri wrote:

I could see their next album being their best for sure.

no doubt

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:28 pm

dyland wrote:

No drums. An understated release - they've done the glam rock star thing. Acoustic and electronic soundscapes reverberating through real physical aural environments.

I would be all about this

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:39 pm

Ethmin wrote:

Idk about Deakin being a lock. If he enters a second AC album cycle without finishing his Mali stuff I'll be a bit bummed.

I think there is a slight chance that Deakin's album will be released around the same time and there could be part of an Animal collective tour with a Deakin set before Animal Collective!

this new album will be quite special ... just in thinking about it, everyones' creative palettes/lexicons keep expanding. they all have something to say with music, lyrics, concepts, the realms in between each of those that are so well navigated and appreciated by everyone involved, and they are have more ways to express these processes each new time around!

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:45 pm

Has anyone ever guessed the approach that AC took on their next abum? did anyone after sung tongs say i think they will do a droney guitarcentered loverecord?

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:55 pm

^Not sure about that, but for what it's worth, I remember reading somewhere that Geologist was surprised at how gentle and whisper-y the vocals were on Feels. So at times, even the band themselves are surprised at how they sound.

Or the story about how Avey and Panda listened back to the initial recording of WCWAR and couldn't believe they sounded like that

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:45 pm

Untitled wrote:

Has anyone ever guessed the approach that AC took on their next abum? did anyone after sung tongs say i think they will do a droney guitarcentered loverecord?

After MPP, it was generally assumed that they would be aiming for a more instrumental approach, especially in light of Deakin joining back up with the group. After word came that Noah was taking up the drums again for the CHz sessions, it was more-or-less set in stone that their next record would assume a sort of rock-band guise.

But IMO, it's a little too early now to figure out what another AC record would sound like. They did say that the band could go acoustic soon (à la KEXP, Seattle bootleg from last year) but the stuff we've heard from Slasher Flicks, Panda Bear and Deakin has been anything but acoustic. Time will tell!

scarybaeri wrote:

I think an album that is more electronically/not instrument driven is likely. I could see a lot of vocal harmonies being included with less instruments. But still really layered and sample-based.

Whatever they go for, I hope that they make something out of the melody from this video's first 2 minutes:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgZ8ZE7yisg#t=133[/youtube]

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:48 pm

i wonder if they'll work again with Ben Allen

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:50 pm

My only prediction, that I think is totally solid is, they won't be working with Ben Allen again.

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:15 pm

The only thing I've read that could be interpreted as negative feelings towards working with Ben Allen was when they said they had to step in and talk with him because they didn't like where he was going with New Town Burnout, or something like that. It was in an interview back when Centipede Hz first came out.

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:16 pm

They've just never worked with the same person more than twice in a row. Don't see it happening. Especially after CHz wasn't received as well as they were hoping for. Avey talked a bit about that on the wandering wolf podcast. Not Ben Allen, just how he felt about the way CHz was received.

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:19 pm

dream time,
I would lose my mind if they recorded with Nigel Godrich

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:24 pm

Ethmin wrote:

dream time,
I would lose my mind if they recorded with Nigel Godrich

That would be amazing

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:27 pm

BEN ALLEN?! FUCK THAT SHIT!!! RUSTY SANTOS!!!

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:00 pm

Before anyone jumps down Stan's throat

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:06 pm

was just about to post that victor

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:06 pm

better qual

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:19 pm

thx. Picked a random one without watching, knew I would happen to pick the lowest quality one

Post **Posted:** Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:44 pm

mostly just posted higher qual cause I was jelly that you beat me too it :negative:

Post **Posted:** Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:39 am

scarybaeri wrote:

Panda decided to work with Sonic Boom again, and people were worried about that

wut

Post **Posted:** Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:47 am

oh my GOD i love blue velvet

Post **Posted:** Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:14 am

I was probably one of them

It's different this time around though since he's on board the whole time, but then again I didn't think much of Congratulations which is the only other album I've heard that he's produced, but on the OTHER hand MGMT didn't grab me either so hmm

Post **Posted:** Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:16 am

I want them to record it all themselves like they said they were considering years ago.

Post **Posted:** Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:20 am

Also yeah it would make more sense and be less controversial if this thread was just called AC Album XII.

No one has a problem with not counting ACB with the rest right?

Post **Posted:** Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:42 am

lets say they want to continue using a low end sound but want to switch up producers.

BOB POWER.

Post **Posted:** Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:15 am

they're their own producers 90% of the time

Post **Posted:** Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:17 am

Hashman wrote:

Also yeah it would make more sense and be less controversial if this thread was just called AC Album XII.

No one has a problem with not counting ACB with the rest right?

but then why count hollindagain. Both are essentially live comps right?

Anyways I altered the thread title so that everyone can be happy.

Post **Posted:** Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:26 am

hollin is all unique material tho...