[SpritBear]

Hey y'all. I'm trying to arrange Taste for my Jazz Combo and I am having trouble getting started. Are there chords/sheet music for this? that would be such a big help.

OR, if there are any other songs that you all would think be easy/groovy. I just need to bring in lead sheets for everyone by Friday. And I know that I want to do an AC track.

Thanks in advance !


-spritbear

[jfw7]

http://actabs.pbworks.com/w/page/28594813/taste

we're not gonna do yr homework

[SpritBear]

lawl. wasn't askin ya to. Already looked at this and it didn't help much. I was just wondering if anything more detailed existed.

[jfw7]

yukbon has done a super good job of moving every transcription attempt to actabs so i would poke around there. there are only a handful of songs with any sort of sheet music attached (alvin row, etc.) but a lot of chords and some decent tabs.

taste seems like it would need a lot of work to make sense for jazz but i can see a lot of chord substitutions (every beat) during the vocal parts being good. the main "riff" is kinda slippery but could maybe work with horns or something. idk anything about jazz arrangement

[SpritBear]

yeah. This thread was also me asking for possible suggestions of things to arrange. I'm not dead set on Taste. I just thought it might be cool. (it doesn't have to be jazz style, by the way). Any input is appreciated. I'm just curious what your thoughts are. Not asking you to write out the sheet music for me.

[jetski]

To make it sound more jazzy, in the verse, you can change the chords from Gm F to Gm C F. That gives you a typical ii V I. You could also play it as ii V I VI (Gm C F D7) to make it sound like Rhythm Changes. The chorus may prove a bit trickier, although the chords for chorus are (I think) Gm F Bb Am

Good luck to your drummer btw

[jfw7]

SpritBear wrote:

yeah. This thread was also me asking for possible suggestions of things to arrange. I'm not dead set on Taste. I just thought it might be cool. (it doesn't have to be jazz style, by the way). Any input is appreciated. I'm just curious what your thoughts are. Not asking you to write out the sheet music for me.

what sort of experience do you have? i have taught composition and am just sort of curious about what yr skill set is, who the players are, &c.

[SpritBear]

haha, I am the drummer!

the more I think about it, the more I may want to do something a bit more simple. I have been playing for 12 years and have taken multiple theory classes and understand a lot of what goes into writing music, but I have never transcribed or arranged anything on my own before.

The instrumentation would be guitar, upright bass, french horn (i know, weird for a jazz combo), and trumpet.

[Chocolate Boy]

I would keep the guitar airy, playing extensions (not the 5ths or roots of most chords), bass rooting and 5thin the hell out of it, for the tone I'd use a bow, but fingers work fine. and I'd suggest possibly have one horn playing the synth arpeggio, maybe the french because it's softer, and the trumpet playing the melody because it's brighter, and then when there are two melodies have the french take pandas part and the trumpet take avey's (just seems right). Also, have you guys practiced this at all? I'd be really excited to hear it!! Was any of this helpful? I was kinda just trying to divy out the parts.
And I think Taste is decently simple enough. Just a few chords, and I like the suggestion of subtly making the chord progression a II V I. To do it elegantly, change only a few notes to convey the chord change. Gm is G Bb D F so drop any D's to C and F to E but keep Bb and G because those are shared by C7 (the V chord in F major) . and I think you'd want to fit the II V in the second half of the space of the II, and not put the V into the space of the I chord, or the melody might not work as well. even just on an iphone record the practice jam! I'd be stoked to hear it, I've always dreamed of jazzy AC. And if any of you are comfortable singing i think it'd sound good to somewhere sing some of the lyrics because they're beautiful.

PS - oh ya, for drums I'd suggest lead your rhythm section to play rhythmically as possible. like the bass hitting p much all 1's and 3's and the guitar hitting those two but maybe emphasizing the 2 and 4. like if those two can help out with the basic rhythm then you can play soft and jazzy and just do like the 'taste'ful stuff you can think of. It's a really groovy song so get everyone on that nodding vibe

[jetski]

Chocolate Boy wrote:

for drums I'd suggest lead your rhythm section to play rhythmically as possible

I like to follow this as a general rule.

[Chocolate Boy]

lol but you should know what I'm talking about if you play music. how some "rhythm" sections just don't hold their shit together. Guitarists strumming all hap-hazardly, bassists playing off beat notes with more emphasis than on beats. I only meant it like, you shouldn't put the whole burden of rhythm on yourself and AC has such sparse grooves, the drums shouldn't be SUPER ROCKIN OUT FUCKIN JAMS. Keep everything synched tight and you'll sound like twice as pro. Let the horns run a muck all over the rhythm in comparison

[jfw7]

how's it going spiritbear? don't try to do it all at the last minute! post some finale files here

[SpritBear]

Makin some pretty good progress ! I'll post it soon y'all. Thanks for all the help. Sorry I haven't and am not responding much. I've been damn busy lately. You guys are great!

[SpritBear]

So uh... I ended up doin Song for Ariel. I started stressin way too much and procrastinated more than I should've. Thanks for helpin y'all. !

[Chocolate Boy]

lol
still
POST it DAWG!

[SpritBear]

I'll post it as soon as I have a vidjya. Thanks for the help everyone. You all are great. Chocolate boy, we gonna get on that radio thing?

[Chocolate Boy]

Yes we are! What medium do we tune into? Spotify has "listening rooms" where we can all just add to the playlist, is there any way tho that we could just stream mp3 from our computers to each other? or do we just make a playlist and all download and listen at the same time?
Too bad we don't all have HAM radios or something haha.

[SpritBear]

That ham radio (with beets and turnip greens) would be siiick! Hmmm. I liked being able to listen to others mixes later on. We could have a different mix master each week that compiles everyone's ? Or... Shit. I don't know! It's almost 2015. There should be an easy way to do this.

[Chocolate Boy]

Haha yeah. Hey, well if we all shared a dropbox folder we could just arrange the songs how we want and it'd be easy for all of us to download them or play them in the browser even. Wouldn't quite be a cool live stream of one collaborative source but it's pretty close and an easy fix!

[SpritBear]

could each "song" be each person's mix? so like, a half hour or however long we decide?

[Chocolate Boy]

that sounds gooood