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mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:53 am
by roopn
There might be an old thread for this but searching "mondegreen" came up with no threads, just a few mentions.
This band teems with them, avey songs in particular.
Lion in a Coma
For Reverend Green
80 (when you left me)
What Would I Want? Sky
Brother Sport (support your brother)
there are so many, please post more
I thought of it today listening to Crosswords, and I realised that though Crosswords are a popular puzzle, they are also words that are cross as in angery grrr which I would say PB is somewhat in that song
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:17 am
by Hash
If you mean "forever in green" or something I don't think that was ever the intention. Reverend Green was their tour manager Brad Truax, I think it was always meant as a straightforward reference to him
Mouth Wooed Her/Water
Seal Eyeing used to be called Sea Lion
Infant Dressing Table was titled Infinite Dressing Table I think?
I suppose some of the Pullhair Rubeye track titles could possibly count?
Sis Around the Sandmill comes from what the words "when the sun arises" sounds like in reverse
Who Welses in My Hoff is from reversed "for telling sister [jokes]"
Lay Lay Off Faselam is from reversed "it's a funny little [thing]"
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:33 am
by dansemanatee
"There's no one to show me how/meow' on Leaf House
Loch Raven used to be called Lake Raven
Abyss Song (Abby's Song)
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:29 am
by Hash
^ on the topic of that Avey Tare release, does Misused Barber have the name "Barbara" in the lyrics? If so that could be one but I still don't know for sure what he's saying
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:23 pm
by Tropic
What is 'what would I want? sky'?
Enjoy your roots/routes
Ahh there's loads, avey loves them
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:50 pm
by lhtd
Avey/Kría ones (some due to Icelandic pronunciations):
Opís Helpus = Oh Please Help Us
Foetus No-Man = Feed a Snowman
Was Ónaíp = Piano Saw
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:20 pm
by Hash
Was "feed a snowman" a thing they referenced themselves? I always assumed they just called it that because of leaving the vocals/lyrics out of "Foetus Man" which would have been the title originally
Tropic wrote:
What is 'what would I want? sky'?
That one took me a second but it's from the original words of the Grateful Dead sample which were
"... sky
whoa, I walk ..."
So another example of Avey deliberately hearing it as a different set of words
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:22 pm
by dansemanatee
I could be wrong but I've always heard him say both "spied the otter" and "spied the other" on boat race
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:23 pm
by dansemanatee
roopn wrote:
80 (when you left me)
Is 80 supposed to be like AD? As in Angel Deradoorian i assume
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:44 pm
by Pineapple_mage
dansemanatee wrote:
roopn wrote:
80 (when you left me)
Is 80 supposed to be like AD? As in Angel Deradoorian i assume
I love this one because I feel like 80, AD, or Avey all fit
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:12 pm
by jfw7
De Soto De Son
Must Be Treeman
Peacebone (bonefish)
On Delay (i think this works better because of ándale)
Gem & I
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:52 pm
by lhtd
Hash wrote:
Was "feed a snowman" a thing they referenced themselves? I always assumed they just called it that because of leaving the vocals/lyrics out of "Foetus Man" which would have been the title originally
I never heard Dave speak to it, but. BUT. While the title is surely sourced from the lyrics, the double meaning is hiding in plain sight (as double meanings do). It's also easy to imagine the "fetus boy" in the song is snowman-like (in need of dressing, a proper face, cold and 'dwelling') and needs to be 'fed'.
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:05 pm
by MFpotus
jfw7 wrote:
De Soto De Son
Must Be Treeman
Peacebone (bonefish)
On Delay (i think this works better because of ándale)
Gem & I
Must Be Treeman -> Must be three man?
on delay -> andale
gem & I -> gemini
Don't get the others. im dumb. please help
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:38 pm
by r_o_s_s
I've heard people say De Soto De Son is The Set of the Sun but I can't make that work with my brain or mouth
Must Be Treeman is Must Be Dreaming - I think?
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:46 pm
by jfw7
the crack box version of de soto de son (happy birthday, abby) is pretty unambiguously "the set of the sun" imo
and yeah treeman is from a pepperidge farm commercial,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzXXZd03WwE
peacebone i assume just came out of the bonefish sample being looped or something? kinda guessing there. i don't know if there's any bootlegs where you hear it like that
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:03 pm
by dansemanatee
this is a stretch but there are some cuts where he pronounced the "ce" and "sh", like "a-peashebone, a-peashebone" and it kinda sounds like hes saying bonefish.
This thread got me wondering if tikwid is a mondegreen or something, looked up just the word and the first result is a reddit post about how if you rearrange the letters it sounds like "dick wet".... yea that subreddit is something else dude i wanna smoke what they're smoking
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:26 am
by Hash
Tikwid is a mondegreen of Tiquid (lol)
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:54 pm
by jusswerjk
Pineapple_mage wrote:
dansemanatee wrote:
roopn wrote:
80 (when you left me)
Is 80 supposed to be like AD? As in Angel Deradoorian i assume
I love this one because I feel like 80, AD, or Avey all fit
Never thought about this one until now. I always thought he was saying AD since the song is about their break up and she even sings on it, but I guess he could be talking to his future self (saying 80 or Avey) about remembering the good times or something.
The lyrics sheet says 80 for what it's worth.
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:15 am
by Angelic Chaos
"Ohne Titel" is a play on "untitled"
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:00 am
by onn
Not strictly a mondegreen but Sung Tongs. Is it just really obvious to everyone that it's Tongue Songs? I don't think I realized it at all until a rare moment in a Sung Tongs Tour era interview where Avey confirmed it off hand. I think I was mainly shocked that he actually clarified something like that when he usually avoids disambiguating stuff. But maybe he thinks it's obvious lol
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:38 am
by loopstronik778
The most obvious one that no one ever gets is for Leaf House= Leave House
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:51 pm
by jfw7
i had never thought about that one but it seems like it could be right
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:57 pm
by lhtd
loopstronik778 wrote:
The most obvious one that no one ever gets is for Leaf House= Leave House
My pet theory is that Sung Tongs is narratological. It begins with a kid being upset with the mood of his house and then his parents take the kid to their friend's house. Many animals are met along the way, some real, some imaginal; stoner siblings are encountered, imaginary play-scapes outside and inside. It ends with the kids being loopy trying to stay up passed 9PM making weird sounds with each other in their fort as they fall asleep.
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:57 am
by loopstronik778
interesting theory
Re: mondegreens / double meanings
Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:05 am
by nothingmastered
ms. secret/my secret?