Collected Animals

What the hell is contemporary psych

Yeah even tho PW might in some spiritual way feel like AC's take on hyperpop, nothing about is hyperpop and it does predate Hyperpop for the most part so...

I diasagree—every single AC release feels completely removed from artifice and trendiness. Despite their interest in “placing” each record by intentionally recording it in a particular place, they have nothing like a Northwest sound ( see Modest Mouse, Built to Spill, Sleater Kinney, The Decemberists) or a New York sound (See Interpol, The Walkmen, The Yeah Yeah Yeahs) or a Chicago sound (see Joan of Arc, The Sea and Cake, Califone). They’re amoebas.

wilandhugs wrote:

Yeah even tho PW might in some spiritual way feel like AC's take on hyperpop, nothing about is hyperpop and it does predate Hyperpop for the most part so...

I wouldn't say predates^ hyperpop too much, '15 feels like the time hyperpop was newly burgeoning cuz of PC crew.

Also only commenting cuz the hyperpop comparison is interesting.. ive heard it before and it both does and doesnt make sense. Doesn't sound like theyre using software much at all for most part if OP-1 doesn't count as that for one thing, but it IS similar insofar as it has that quality of like "oh you didn't think we'd try and sound THAT slick and poppy did you?" And has the exagerrated energy of hyperpop too, so like i do get that.

but like specific flannel patterns that i think are ugly, like a putrid yellow and pale green or purple or something? The kind of shirts avey wore before he started wearing tank tops and bucket hats? Sensitive white folk bro stuff (i have no idea what im talking about).

I have a weird relationship with feels..

dio wrote:

but like specific flannel patterns that i think are ugly, like a putrid yellow and pale green or purple or something? The kind of shirts avey wore before he started wearing tank tops and bucket hats? Sensitive white folk bro stuff (i have no idea what im talking about).

I have a weird relationship with feels..

Not weird, dio. Davey was wearing funny flannels and had curly curls in those days. Feels feels earthy and fruity. Fruit leather. Hairy armpits. Canola. Basalt. Wood. I know it was recorded in Seattle, but I’ve lived most of my life there and on the other side of the state, and Feels has little resembling a Northwest sound. Phil Elvrum is Northwest. Calvin Johnson is Northwest. AC is placeless. Every artist imitates. But AC just seems to have transcended influence. Timeless? Okay. Pike Place Market is timeless—it’s been around for over a century, but it’s 100% Seattle. AC is placeless, which is, to me, more impressive. I’m a few g&ts deep and I’m a nobody. Sorry. Long live Animal Collective.

I disagree completely. Every album is strongly associated with contemporary acts and trends. AC is hugely original so they aren't exactly following trends or anything, but tiny hints are all that are really necessary to strongly date an album. And if you have an ear for production techniques then it REALLY dates the albums.

Also if you don't think Feels had an intentionally Seattle sound then look up where it was recorded and mixed, and who by.

for feels we wanted to work with scott and he has his own studio (gravelvoice), so that's how we ended up in seattle. both those studio had analog tape machines but we recorded live onto tape and then added overdubs on the computer

[...] tiny hints are all that are really necessary to strongly date an album. And if you have an ear for production techniques then it REALLY dates the albums.

when time skiffs came out this dude i used to be friends with said he liked it but thought it sounded like a lot of generic contemporary modern psych. came as no surprise that he was actually predatory as fuck.

onn wrote:

[...] tiny hints are all that are really necessary to strongly date an album. And if you have an ear for production techniques then it REALLY dates the albums.

can you elaborate pls with some examples? I feel I have a pretty good ear for these things but I don't actually do any production work so there's lots I don't know

I feel like Spirit is the most like that for me, but I don't really know anything

In case it's relevant I remember a quote from Avey about how delay had become like "the autotune of indie rock" lol

Hash wrote:

I feel like Spirit is the most like that for me, but I don't really know anything

totally, Spirit definitely has a 90s sound, and I'd say Panda's self titled too. Spirit sidesteps a great deal with its experimental elements but they are both characterised by the sound of the gear they were made on. Maybe it's redundant to say that? But I do think it's easier to hear on these compared to their later, more professionally produced albums.

Hash wrote:

In case it's relevant I remember a quote from Avey about how delay had become like "the autotune of indie rock" lol

hahah he's right but I'll never disparage a nice delay. is any effect better?