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Big Ears Festival March 24-27

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:58 pm
by Fovrodi
Surely this means more spring shows! Maybe in support of the release

https://bigearsfestival.org/event/animal-collective/

Full lineup
https://bigearsfestival.org/2022-festival/

Re: Big Ears Festival March 24-27

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:48 pm
by jfw7
big ears always looks like the best time! cool that AC is playing (and yeah i'm hoping for more shows!)

Re: Big Ears Festival March 24-27

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:56 pm
by Hellomark
That's a surprisingly sweet and thoughtful write-up they have on that site. Hoping this means a March release for Time Skiffs!

Re: Big Ears Festival March 24-27

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:04 pm
by speen
"Avey Tare, Panda Bear, Deakin, and Geologist helped make indie rock safe for samplers, sequencers, and light shows in the early 2000s."

hmmm did they ever use sequencers? until the painting with tour? I'm pretty sure they just used samples that they manually triggered, no sequences. I could be wrong, but im genuinely curious if anyone knows better

Re: Big Ears Festival March 24-27

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:11 pm
by Fovrodi
Down There was mostly made on monomachine which is a sequencer right?

Re: Big Ears Festival March 24-27

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:26 pm
by speen
True, wasn't thinking about solo stuff, was mostly just thinking about the band's setup in the 2000s. I don't think they ever used sequencers on the samplers. was in the flowers originally performed with sequenced samples, or was that central synth part one giant sample that someone triggered at the start of the song? i know nobody was playing that live

just wondering as a gear nerd

Re: Big Ears Festival March 24-27

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:32 pm
by Fovrodi
Strong feeling In the Flowers is mostly backing track? At least the drop part, I could maybe see the guitar part being done by samples
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In another unorthodox move, Animal Collective eschew sequencing in favour of triggering their samples live, in an effort to lend their electronic elements a looser, more human feel. "That was the game plan from the get‑go,” says Allen. "For me, that was so challenging technically. They're all playing samples and sequences and recorded material with no synchronisation protocol between any of their machines whatsoever. They've created all these loops on their little samplers and they play them just like a guitar player would play in time with a drummer.

"So we would start by figuring out what was the most rhythmic layer of the song. Each guy would play their parts down once — and there might be seven minutes of this — so everything in that sense was recorded live. We wouldn't put a loop into the computer and then copy it in Pro Tools. However many samples were in each machine, that's how many passes we would have to do. And they're the synchronisers. It just happened to be that they're playing loops.”

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Elsewhere, if a specific sound from an original demo sketch was considered too tricky to recreate, it would be spun into the master recording. "The acoustic guitar on 'In The Flowers' was the original recording that Dave did into his Roland [VS]1680 in New York,” Allen recalls. "We imported it off of his machine. I tried to talk them out of that as much as possible, but sometimes they're really particular about the way things sound. They really like the sounds they've already gotten and getting them away from that could be difficult sometimes, for better or for worse.”

https://www.soundonsound.com/people/ani ... t-pavilion

Re: Big Ears Festival March 24-27

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:37 pm
by Stanshant
Fuck off Allen you nobhead. Go and wank off Gnarls Barkley.

Re: Big Ears Festival March 24-27

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:52 pm
by speen
That clears it up then, no sequencers. awesome. i always assumed that just from watching and listening to them. i love that method

I think the primary instrumentation for in the flowers (in the original tour) was all on a single sample that geo or avey triggered at the beginning of the song and just let it play. I dont think avey did anything other than sing, geo triggered the cricket/frog sounds during the drop, and panda triggered all of the percussive and bass samples. thats my judgement based on being way too familiar with videos of that era lol