Hey guys, I'm new here and relatively new to AnCo. Can anybody tell me the difference between "Song for Ariel" and "Guys Eyes"??
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 11:38 am
by Stanshant
The best version of Ariel is on the Panda Bear live Ma Fama performance.
Look in the live section of this forum for more details or maybe Google it.
Ariel is the proto-Guys Eyes, basically. Prettier, just sample and voice. Better.
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 1:37 pm
by dance avey dance
Ariel is the original Panda solo version of the song. Guys Eyes is the animal collectivized version.
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 1:57 pm
by denjanenna
song for ariel: panda solo pretty nice straightforward tear-inducing version
guys eyes: maniacal giant beast-like quasi-clusterfuckish behemoth AC version
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 7:55 pm
by coollodges
I always preferred ariel but over time the ac version has become equally good in my eyes if not better. The version from pandas atp 2009(?) show is cool too cause I think he adds a little bridge that isn't on ma fama.
here's the whole ma fama in case you didn't find it
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 11:46 pm
by terrestrialjane
Ariel definitely sounds how should it be. Prefer to guys eyes but still both wonderful songs. The jam in guys eyes is ridiculous live though but you Guys already know that. Panda just always kills it on those tracks.
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 3:29 pm
by real slippi
coollodges wrote:
The version from pandas atp 2009(?) show is cool too cause I think he adds a little bridge that isn't on ma fama.
The Gov. Island boot that came with Tomboy has a great version of it with the coda. Not quite as good as the ma fama take because the ending on the latter is one of the greatest things ever, but it's definitely top notch.
The extended jam AC was doing with Guys Eyes during the 2009 tour was also amazing. Lots and lots of versions of this song, and, oddly, the official LP release is probably at the bottom of my list despite still being excellent
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:00 pm
by medellia meladori
this is one of my favorite ac songs. i remember being really disappointed that they didn't include the "so i'll use my mind" loop they jam on live on the record
hey you're right its not in the studio one. Maybe it would make that part too dense for the studio version? Maybe at 6:52 he is just fading in a little live captured loop of the delay from when he is singing I'll use my mind earlier in the song?
This song just has so many differ layers and versions
Ahh I see. Makes it seem even weirder that they didn't use it.
lol'd at the description of that youtube video
wrote:
Part of 'Song for Ariel'...to the kid at the end of the video who was fucking writhing like a r***** on acid, i hope you read this. i fucking hate you and i hope you burn in hell for being so fucking obnoxious and NOT even because you were tripping, cause you weren't. so thanks for doing that shit the entrie show, you asshole. i hate you.
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 5:05 am
by dio
^wtf. that kid was barely moving. geez, if that shit pisses people off, then I've prbly seriously pissed ppl off at some shows
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 7:53 am
by uf0party
i prefer guys eyes
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 12:45 pm
by StrangeClams
Yeah. The OG song for ariel is pretty boring.
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 1:22 pm
by real slippi
You're pretty boring
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 1:57 pm
by elks
I like song for ariel the most. Guys eyes just sorta tires me out after a little while, especially the 10-minute live versions. And SfA is smooth like butta
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 2:04 pm
by P nu
Both are great, but guys eyes was one of the first songs that reaaaalllyyy pulled me into mpp back when i wasnt a huge fan. Song for ariel is so good tho, its hard to pick - i really like guys eyes because aveys verses i almost prefer to pandas on that track - but song for ariel is way more intimate and personal and i feel the weight of what pandas saying more
Tough call - think id go with guy's eyes in the end
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 2:33 pm
by Stanshant
I just had a really good think about it and Song for Ariel is better so that's another case closed.
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 4:04 pm
by denjanenna
StrangeClams wrote:
Yeah. The OG song for ariel is pretty boring.
hey. put that comment in a bucket and fuck it.
actually, don't do that, its quite unsanitary....
coming from the perspective of somebody who actually enjoys the music of panda bear, I think its quite lovely...
i bet you wouldn't even care if he died.
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 4:12 pm
by Dearest
lol
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 3:01 am
by thedamnscott
I love both but Guys Eyes is my favorite/most listened to song ever. The studio version and the jammy live version are both just bliss for me.
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 3:21 am
by medellia meladori
both versions are great. avey's concurrent vocal lines make the studio/full band live versions (just like taste). REALLY seriously still missing that "i'll use my mind" sample though. very badly.
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 3:22 am
by medellia meladori
i get it tho - it's a droning, almost dissonant part that wouldn't fit in with the bright super major key piano, it shifts the mood of the ending
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 6:26 pm
by P nu
whats the best live version of Guy's Eyes? can someone provide a video?
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 6:28 pm
by medellia meladori
1/20/09 and 10/25/07 are pretty great
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 10:38 pm
by Gool Aid
song for ariel>
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 10:39 pm
by Gool Aid
its perfect I've listened like 10 times in the past few days gettin pumped for the panda show
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 10:39 pm
by Gool Aid
song for ariel 10.0
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 12:34 am
by colin
this thread is so geekchic
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 1:58 am
by Gool Aid
seriously tho, the end loop is totally incredible on the ma fama version
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 2:38 am
by clayton
song for ariel is beautiful and just has that simplicity that makes you want to pick up a guitar and play it yourself
guys eyes is a speaker blowing psychedelic masterpiece
they are two different songs, two different experiences, and two types of magic
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 8:59 pm
by jfw7
clayton wrote:
song for ariel is beautiful and just has that simplicity that makes you want to pick up a guitar and play it yourself
panda didn't though, lol
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 9:35 pm
by clayton
yeah he just hit "generate song" on his crApple macbook lol
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 10:22 pm
by dance avey dance
clayton wrote:
yeah he just hit "generate song" on his crApple macbook lol
/ loop a sample of "Leave Me Be" by the Zombies
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 7:41 am
by Vovenarg
clayton wrote:
song for ariel is beautiful and just has that simplicity that makes you want to pick up a guitar and play it yourself
this^ i actually was compelled to do this when i first heard it, after knowing guys eyes for a long time. super inspiring somehow.
it has that intimacy like someone said. love both though.
Re: Song for Ariel/Guys Eyes
Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 5:02 am
by jetski
AHHHH of course it's Leave Me Be!!! I can't believe I didn't realize that earlier