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Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 3:23 am
by Stories and Games
Emerson  wrote:
holy f my buddy just got admitted to the psychward cuz he tripped and listened to this album at the same time for his first tripping experience! send good vibes!!

oh goodness, hope he gets out soon and without much trauma <3

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 3:38 am
by Emerson 
yeah thanks lol he was naked at an outdoor mall :oops:

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:13 pm
by soothsailor
Another person mentioned this earlier, but The Challenge coming after this on the single is actually kind of a sick transition in its own right

But yeah, this is still so transportive, every section is its own world but flows so naturally from one to the next. Like once I'm through to the "coming of age" section, I need to hear the "defeat" section because of how inevitably the arrangement leads to it - I guess because Avey managed to keep the bare structure of the song intact, while still stretching and evolving it to its utmost limits with the band

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:04 pm
by Alcohol
Emerson  wrote:
yeah thanks lol he was naked at an outdoor mall :oops:

How’s your pal? He come back down a-ok?

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:21 pm
by PolarBear
Does anybody know what material Davey used for the album cover? I wanna be a Soul Capturer for Halloween.

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:45 pm
by foxtrot
Someone found it and posted it a while back. Hold on a sec...

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:46 pm
by foxtrot
here it is:
infiniteblastsoflight wrote:
hey all, just a random thing i wanted to share with ya haha
i found the quilt Dave used on the cover of Isn't It Now? at Joann Fabric and Crafts about 2 weeks ago :) it's called "Mosaic Mist" and it's double-sided. it's currently 30% off everywhere, and if you pair it with the coupon on their website (10% off purchases $25 or more) you can get 2 yards of the thing for $15
i know absolutely ZERO about quiltmaking, i just bought it to have and also because i am going to work on animating the cover.

anyway, to do this, i've been scanning the quilt's front and back patterns, and i just wanted to offer the scans i've made of it to y'all, i've found that the back pattern works nice as a phone lock screen background haha
in addition i took two photos of as much of each pattern as i could fit in frame so you can see how the full pattern melds together.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... 9bhZdpRKDA
enjoy :-)


Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:16 am
by PolarBear
foxtrot wrote:
here it is:
infiniteblastsoflight wrote:
hey all, just a random thing i wanted to share with ya haha
i found the quilt Dave used on the cover of Isn't It Now? at Joann Fabric and Crafts about 2 weeks ago :) it's called "Mosaic Mist" and it's double-sided. it's currently 30% off everywhere, and if you pair it with the coupon on their website (10% off purchases $25 or more) you can get 2 yards of the thing for $15
i know absolutely ZERO about quiltmaking, i just bought it to have and also because i am going to work on animating the cover.

anyway, to do this, i've been scanning the quilt's front and back patterns, and i just wanted to offer the scans i've made of it to y'all, i've found that the back pattern works nice as a phone lock screen background haha
in addition i took two photos of as much of each pattern as i could fit in frame so you can see how the full pattern melds together.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... 9bhZdpRKDA
enjoy :-)



Thank you!!

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:46 am
by jusswerjk
Emerson  wrote:
yeah thanks lol he was naked at an outdoor mall :oops:

Haha. When I was in high school one of my friends got the Baker Act because he was running naked down one of the major boulevards in our town. It happens :laugh: :pwn:

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:05 am
by Avey Tane
Homies on their Luigi's Mansion shit, anyone else heard this song?!

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:18 am
by PolarBear
Avey Tane wrote:
Homies on their Luigi's Mansion shit, anyone else heard this song?!

What song?

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:20 am
by Avey Tane
check the thread title

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:20 am
by destiny
I'm sorry but that's fucking great

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:59 pm
by PolarBear
Avey Tane wrote:
check the thread title

Oh I get it. haHAA

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:37 am
by roopn
I finally got a copy of the deafeat 12", so I've now listened to the challenge live edit, I gotta say its pretty sick! more than anything I'm blown away by the fidelity of the live recordings, everything just sounds exquisite. vocals are stunning, the drums are pristine. further case in point we need a full live release from the skiffs/now era.

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:05 am
by rohcti
It not transitioning into live Strung With Everything is so baffling to me. Maybe they didn't have a recording of that that they were happy with? (very sick to have on vinyl nonetheless, don't get me wrong. I'm just greedy)

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:08 am
by andthephantom
Quick thought about Defeat as a possible album closer … I seem to recall people reporting that ?Deakin? thought Defeat ended too down/sad to close the album. Am I remembering that right? If so, it seems kinda funny that they chose Kings instead. I love it as a closer. But it’s bleak!!

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:45 am
by nothingmastered
i think kings is optimistic

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:04 pm
by organic cat
hoooolllld HAAAAANDS

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:48 pm
by andthephantom
nothingmastered wrote:
i think kings is optimistic

I guess I can see that - the lyrics move in a positive direction. But the “almost getting cooked” part is way more potent/memorable for me when I listen.

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:10 pm
by soothsailor
Still one of their best songs

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:38 am
by destiny
I closed my eyes and thought of where i heard this song - on a plane, these lush ass clouds in a field, in my community college library, on the bus, in my room, in the basement of an airbnb, live holding onto an ex, my partners car in a parking lot in mississauga.....damn i love ANIMAL COLLECTIVE SO MUCH AHAH

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:26 am
by destiny
We have it on tape. This song destroys me. I'll be back in this thread again, and again, and it'll be annoying. But fuck it. The memories. Does it hit you too?

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:26 am
by Hellomark
I'll be real I haven't listened to this song once since like October, but I know that when I do come back to it it's going to destroy me.

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:04 am
by muark
Glad to be reminded this song exists while going through the craziest ennui of my young life. Gonna put this on tonight after work. Probably gonna cry. Probably gonna look at million dollar California Bungalows in Coburg on realestate.com and fantasise about winning the powerball. Probably gonna reheat some left over pasta and fucking enjoy it heaps. Gonna be schweet

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:06 am
by Fovrodi
you can't be that young with that avatar mother fucker

crying is your business though and I respect all kinds of privacy

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:10 pm
by tdegenaro
Hellomark wrote:
I'll be real I haven't listened to this song once since like October, but I know that when I do come back to it it's going to destroy me.

just put IIN? on for the first time this calendar year and man, oh man, rewarding to take a break and be blown away by this record again. you'll love it when you get back to it hellomark i know that for sure

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 2:48 pm
by Fovrodi
Defeat is a real knees in the mud kind of song

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 3:49 am
by destiny
they were right, big time letting that bass ring then introducing the synths. it fucks me up everytime. this songs vibrations adapted to my dna. at this point, my genome matches the waveform

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 3:54 am
by destiny
OOOH UH. OOOH UH. OOOH UH. listening to isnt it now on an airplane, no service, looking at the field of clouds. one day friend we'll meet again. hopefully then...

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 7:49 pm
by Alcohol
Few other things have (deserve) my undivided attention for twenty minutes.

Re: Defeat

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 8:51 pm
by blindmowing
Dallou wrote:
Everyone is going to be sooooo disappointed with the studio version for sur aha

for nostalgia i'm reading through the thread, haha

i just gotta raise a glass to the boys once again for their bang-up job on recording alllllllllll the songs on Isn't It Now? they did not disappoint... easily their best produced album, right? they nailed all the songs

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 3:35 am
by destiny
I'm so fucking lucky. I remember listening to this when the music box set happened. Listening to the show on repeat in a community college library. Fast forward how many years I'm listening with another superfan I met through a niche indie videogame in a basement in a house in Lawndale fucking Chicago. Impounded cars in the yards next to us. That vinyl rip. My favorite song, imprinted witht he memories of my closest friends that are seperated by time and space I met through a funny videogame. I can only fucking cry in happiness. I grab that fucking spruce boys. I fucking grab that motherfucker

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:52 am
by destiny
Now i'm all out, but, How bout U?

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:05 pm
by hewasbeingstinky
I have to admit something to fellow fans that will likely be an unpopular opinion. I am so close to loving this recording of this song, but I am hung up on a superficial detail. It drives me crazy how Dave doesn’t enunciate the last consonants of the phrases in the verses during the first section. With his voice so front and center, and the content so clearly emotional, it feels like the intention is to pay extra close attention to his voice. And don’t get me wrong, he is singing beautifully, but to me the lack of enunciation just takes me out of it. I can’t seem to find aesthetic justification for it so it just reads as a mistake to me.

Anyways just had to get that off my chest. I really want to get past this hang up because I think otherwise this is an incredible song and I really want to fully love it

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:40 pm
by Tropic
Ha that is the one thing that bugs me about this song also

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 6:50 pm
by Alcohol
Huh?

Re: Defeat - Yeah, it's on the new album

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:19 pm
by augustjsmith
Someone pointed that out to me when the song came out and it is a little irksome. It's like they turned up the de-esser too much or something. Doesn't bother me too badly fortunately.