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Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:17 am
by MisterMagpie
Since we're all discussing our interpretations of these tracks, this is how I've been thinking of this album on my last few listens. Each song is about dealing with death and/or loss from different perspectives:
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Sequential Circuits - "get just what you need" while you are alive. "seeds become a tree because you can’t be a growth and the same as before" this lyric in particular reminds me of the quote from Noah's first interview regarding this new material, that "sometimes new growth requires death"

Mr Noah - the physical process of death. "bit on a leg" "don't want to get outta bed" "drip a lot drop a lot (blood?)" "so wide to the other side" "toward a bigger sign"

Crosswords - death from the grim reaper's perspective. death "ain't fate, just me" "a cropper for the weak stuff you stew/brew" the weak stuff being our (from his perspective) pathetic little lives. "stay there while I move stay scared while I improve" I'd say most of us fear death, and the grim reaper must constantly improve with the growing world population. "it don’t mean I’ll do it like you want me to" death does not come when it is convenient for us "but it do mean I’ll do it like you need me to" but he'll get you when its nescessary. "so good you’ve got it so good damn it so good" we don't realize/appreciate how great it is to be alive.

Butcher Baker Candlestick Maker - dealing with the loss of family, be it a pet or close family member. the immediate panic "grip this grab that have that an empty bag". and then having awkward/uncomfortable encounters with family "really shouldn't bring that other guy" as in "what are you doing here?". the people around you could be "a friend of mine" "a gemini" or some "other guy". having to "wait a while" for the funeral.

Boys Latin - "we don't appreciate our things" while we are alive and then the "dark cloud" of death "moves in the darkness"

Come To Your Senses - dealing with loss on a personal level. "are you mad" that they are gone?. "you won't make that one again" "this the last time" reflecting on mistakes or things that you feel you could have done differently while they are alive.

Tropic of Cancer - I think this one speaks for itself.

Lonely Wanderer - looking back on the life of a loved one who has passed. "if you could look back" on your life and experiences "would you look back" and think it was worthwhile

Principe Real - trying to move on after a loss "fool these ugly thoughts". trying to feel normal again even though theres this "sheep dog" "nipping at your heels"

Selfish Gene - acceptance. "see it so clear". "when at the start it seems like fates have set it up like so much magic" as a child your life seems so magical, but as you get older and more cynical you see it as "just a ruse to get you in there". You realize that there are many things you may be told or you may learn but it just "ain't it" and that "only you can fill those spaces" and live your life just how you want to. others may "rub in how a proper chest is clean" but to you its just silly, it "ain't it" either. "when the party goes" and your life is over, "it breaks [your] brittle back".

Acid Wash - viewing death as a positive. you may journey into the great beyond "on a rope" or on "a ship" and "laugh (into) the chasm" "as you've won against the dark"

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:39 pm
by jetski
^Love that interpretation of Selfish Gene

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:36 pm
by Night Park
hey sonic,

it's very cool of you to hang out in this forum, answering questions and dropping hints. I can't think of another setting where fans get to pick the brain of a producer like this. it makes listening to the album a more personal experience.

--There's a lot of call-and-response vocal play on this album (sequential circuits, :42 in butcher and especially in boys latin). Is that something you guys discussed explicitly? What production techniques (besides panning) did you use to underscore that?
--Can you clue us in to some of the samples we haven't picked up on yet? What's your favorite sample on the album?
--Favorite song from this era? (i love the windows-down feel of TSOP and crosswords)

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:26 pm
by dio
^ya shout-out to tsop, that track is so sweet... i wouldn't say i miss the "ocean (cean-a, cean-a shuna) sounding thing from the bootlegs, when he says "like a sinking ship on the ocean," but im glad i have that live version to listen back to for that...

every song on the lp is so solid its hard to single them out... ctys and selfish might be my favorite, but i literally like every song nearly equally.at this point. first half of the lp has to be one of the most solid sides of pop music in recent years... seems like every song could be a single. kinda like mpp. 2nd half too, but since its a little less beat-oriented it seems different

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:29 pm
by Gool Aid
the drum fill on crosswords is so perfectly placed...so vibey

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:43 am
by Sonic boom
Night Park wrote:
hey sonic,

it's very cool of you to hang out in this forum, answering questions and dropping hints. I can't think of another setting where fans get to pick the brain of a producer like this. it makes listening to the album a more personal experience.

--There's a lot of call-and-response vocal play on this album (sequential circuits, :42 in butcher and especially in boys latin). Is that something you guys discussed explicitly? What production techniques (besides panning) did you use to underscore that?
--Can you clue us in to some of the samples we haven't picked up on yet? What's your favorite sample on the album?
--Favorite song from this era? (i love the windows-down feel of TSOP and crosswords)

hey NP
thats kind ! ! thank you .
after a tough day at the oriffice , you guys n gals are fun .
on a good day , your pretty close to magic .....
....so thanks right back at you ! !

I can't clue you in to samples .
I dont really care about them beyond the sound , but they are all credited on the lp sleeve .

no , i dont think we discussed anything 'explicitly' regarding call& response vocals . All the ideas were Noah 's ...... he was 3 steps ahead of me the whole time . I was just agape , catching up on what he kept coming up with ....
I did say I loved that interplay & the yodel vibe.....i like that sort of vocal movement.
for sure , the right sort of delays & reverbs certainly can help , but in general this LP was an attempt to not rely on fx , and to get as much magic out of the dry signal .

I felt they all worked pretty much off the bat that are on the LP . as yet unreleased - popadum i'm very partial to , and jabawaqy & cosplay is a fave...
His vocals are super well thought thru ......so , if it aint broke.....
have a great week !! peteggx

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:56 am
by Tico
Night Park wrote:
--Favorite song from this era? (i love the windows-down feel of TSOP and crosswords)

what exactly do you mean by 'windows-down feel'? I think i know exactly what youre talking about but i cant put it into words

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:37 am
by Vince Noir
this album is so fucking good im in tears right now

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:02 am
by jetski
Sonic boom wrote:
for sure , the right sort of delays & reverbs certainly can help , but in general this LP was an attempt to not rely on fx , and to get as much magic out of the dry signal

Very cool, I'd definitely say you can hear this in the finished album. There's still reverb and delay but it never overwhelms the dry signal. Also this should totally shut up any PB haters who insist that he uses reverb as a crutch (such a ridiculous claim).
Sonic boom wrote:
after a tough day at the oriffice

Lol

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:26 am
by SlashingGoodTime

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:56 am
by impendingfriend
Sonic boom wrote:
as yet unreleased - popadum i'm very partial to , and jabawaqy & cosplay is a fave...
His vocals are super well thought thru ......so , if it aint broke.....
have a great week !! peteggx

Sonic, every time you mention jaba, cosplay, and popadum my insides explode

Too psyched for all things post-VSGR :metal

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:47 am
by Sonic boom
impendingfriend wrote:
Sonic boom wrote:
as yet unreleased - popadum i'm very partial to , and jabawaqy & cosplay is a fave...
His vocals are super well thought thru ......so , if it aint broke.....
have a great week !! peteggx

Sonic, every time you mention jaba, cosplay, and popadum my insides explode

Too psyched for all things post-VSGR :metal

hey !
i'll Bear that in mind......! wow ! thats cool.....
....say - can u film it next time ???
Danny 'd love it....

POST PBvsGR ? ? ?
think there might be some nice morcels & maybe even a banquet before the 'POST' comes around...

have'nt forgot the 'Danny Perez' stories ........ just building up to the right ones....
hmmmm........they're mostly x , xx or xxx rated...
until soon ! have a sweet week & get ready for more ore .....
Xpetek

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:56 am
by jetski
Sonic boom wrote:
POST PBvsGR ? ? ?
think there might be some nice morcels & maybe even a banquet before the 'POST' comes around...
...
have a sweet week & get ready for more ore .....
Xpetek

:flail:

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:04 am
by speen
Sonic boom wrote:
think there might be some nice morcels & maybe even a banquet before the 'POST' comes around...

Ohhhhh man, put on your panda helmets folks :siren: :siren: :siren:

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:58 am
by MFpotus
Principe Real sounds magical, like a color that i've never seen before

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:58 am
by Night Park
thanks sonic you rule
Tico wrote:
Night Park wrote:
--Favorite song from this era? (i love the windows-down feel of TSOP and crosswords)

what exactly do you mean by 'windows-down feel'? I think i know exactly what youre talking about but i cant put it into words

in both tracks, it's a combination of a breezy melody and drums that have this perfect laid back shuffle feel. it's a playful, buoyant kind of sound....a nice contrast to the more somber/spiritual tunes

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:22 am
by SpritBear
My gawd I lorve this thread bread. We are so lucky. Christmas err day. Thanks petek for all the petek for our peteks.

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:14 am
by dud
Victor_Borge wrote:
Sonic boom wrote:
POST PBvsGR ? ? ?
think there might be some nice morcels & maybe even a banquet before the 'POST' comes around...
...
have a sweet week & get ready for more ore .....
Xpetek

:flail:

i think he's just poking fun at the fact that people are saying 'post pbvsgr' when the album hasn't even been officially released yet, i think when he says 'banquet' he's referring to the album itself lol

e: unless the banquet is the atp rehearsal :shock: :flail:

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:46 am
by Lacrimosa
Victor_Borge wrote:
^Love that interpretation of Selfish Gene

yea, and all the others, also yours archie.

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:53 am
by yoyoyoyoy
SlashingGoodTime wrote:

Hmm, so it turns out ol' pandy is just a rip-off artist after all! Well at least he turned it into a good song!

:monocle:

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:55 am
by yoyoyoyoy
I can just see him backstage going "man, these guys suck. I do like that line, though. Maybe if I wait seven years, no one will notice. Muahahaha"

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:58 am
by yoyoyoyoy
Obv just kidding, I'm sure Rusty gave him the song as a Christmas present ;)

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:06 pm
by roopn
I'm confused

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:11 pm
by SpritBear
Yeah, I don't get it.

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:28 pm
by dud
panda bear has worked with rusty santos (also AC performed at that same festival)
that song of rusty's is called 'we got it so good'
lyric in crosswords = 'you got it so good'

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:34 pm
by awesome
e: nvm

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:14 pm
by impendingfriend
SlashingGoodTime wrote:

This...

This is awful

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:18 pm
by Dallou
i like it

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:42 pm
by the feeling store
For you guys who may have missed it...

Rusty and Panda had a short-lived side project called Together, and I posted a recording I came into possession of here:

http://collectedanimals.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=2233

It's pretty damn beautiful, whether or not you like Rusty's solo stuff.

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:53 pm
by float on sputnik
vesuvius wrote:
Principe Real sounds magical, like a color that i've never seen before


Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:46 pm
by MisterMagpie
YoYoTaco wrote:
Aunno man, sounds like we're gonna get a lil sumin before the pre-orders arrive. who cares if it ain't true just get hyped already :siren: :siren: :siren:

Maybe we'll get the ATP Rehearsals as a free download with the LP, like how the download card for Tomboy came with the Governor's Island recording

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:46 pm
by faded arrow
impendingfriend wrote:
SlashingGoodTime wrote:

This...

This is awful

It was hard to watch lol

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:17 pm
by coollodges
that man engineered sung tongs show some god damn respect you casuals.

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:38 pm
by jetski
^Yeah, and he mixed Person Pitch! Between those two albums alone he deserves some love

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:41 pm
by jetski
I have a Google news alert on for "Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper," so I got an alert for this shitty article today: http://diffuser.fm/panda-bear-limited-edition-2015/

2 things:
1) misleading title since the "limited edition triple LP" is just the double LP plus the Mr Noah EP, like many of us have preordered
2) pic of Geo instead of Panda lol

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:55 pm
by mbillz
all i'm gonna say is ayahuasca and this album work real together

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:22 pm
by Sputnik Monroe
mbillz wrote:
all i'm gonna say is ayahuasca and this album work real together

Taking ayahuasca the beginning of january, this album will be high on my mind for sure.

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:24 pm
by speen
i'm scared of ayahuasca. should I be?

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:40 pm
by Sputnik Monroe
It isn't something you want to go into with fear. I believe Ayahuasca is a powerful healing medicine that opens you up to it whenever you're ready. I don't think you should be anything other than what you are and ready for. Any fear you hold it is capable of showing you the full extent of, it can be harsh in those terms, but it is also capable of being completely gentle and loving.

Re: Panda Bear Meets the Grim Reaper

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:59 pm
by speen
Alright cool. That's pretty similar to what I've heard other people say. I just see these horror stories about terrible results of ayahuasca....