Collected Animals

I like the album (particularly Boys Latin) but I also feel like Noah's voice tends to blot out everything else to the detriment of the music. With Tomboy that made sense, but there's a lot going on here that deserves to be pushed to the fore instead of having to do battle with typically reverb-y vocals. I'm looking forward to buying it in January to see if these issues are corrected.

Hey pete, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this has ever been asked directly- who are your favorite artists? Favorite albums? curious because all of the music you've said has inspired you and Noah has been great

I like the album (particularly Boys Latin) but I also feel like Noah's voice tends to blot out everything else to the detriment of the music. With Tomboy that made sense, but there's a lot going on here that deserves to be pushed to the fore instead of having to do battle with typically reverb-y vocals. I'm looking forward to buying it in January to see if these issues are corrected.

hmm. i feel like the "typical reverby panda vocals" are absent here. there's reverb on some tracks, but it sounds new to me. each one has such a live feel to it, like he sounds so vulnerable and raw on here its amazing.

ya i kno but this ones different

lol, how so?

It's not any different, that sound is exactly the reason I got into them in the first place...because their music and psychedelic experiences(even mild, bong-related ones) seem to go hand-in-hand better than any other band I've ever come across.

How old are you? I feel like you're only saying this because you're recognizing it in it's newest incarnation.

Hmmm so I guess only 3 songs feature dogs in the lyrics.

Mr. Noah
BBCM
Principe Real

felt like more...

^you're right it does feel like more

also there are only 3 songs that feature the word 'trip' as well but it felt like more to me

what's the third? I've only found two, Mr. Noah and Nadir

speaking of tripping, I listened to Mr Noah a few weeks ago in amsterdam on truffles and it was amazing. the whole song was slowed down and sweet, but especially his descending 'eh eh eh' runs. they felt like they took 10 seconds each to unfold, it sounded crazy cool. it's almost like Noah knew exactly what they'd sound like while tripping when he wrote them ;]

what's the third? I've only found two, Mr. Noah and Nadir

the orig Faces in the Crowd

I'm looking forward to buying it in January to see if these issues are corrected.

I don't think anything is going to change about this album come January, besides higher quality digital versions of the tracks. I believe all the mixing & mastering has been completed since vinyl takes a long time to press.

I'm not very knowledgeable about the whole process though. What do you guys think? Is this final, or is it possible that the official release be mastered differently? I suppose we have no way of knowing for sure unless we knew the exact source of the freebird and from what format it was uploaded.

No it's going to be the same.

Pretty sure Pete suggested this is it and nothing's going to be different.

Cool. Figured as much. And I'm totally fine with that.

kingo wrote:

Sonic, does this album have intended suites?

I'm sure it does in terms of sides to the vinyls
Look in to that.

Yeah . noah always claimed to be not good at sequencing .
- I helped w that on Tomboy .
But he knew what he wanted on this ......
.... The moment I saw the 4 sides I knew just from looking , that he had nailed it .
...Countersunk head n all ....

Don't forget Ms pax man / new faces in the crowd has ze hund too .
Cerberus indeed.....

Hey pete, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this has ever been asked directly- who are your favorite artists? Favorite albums? curious because all of the music you've said has inspired you and Noah has been great

That's wide ..... I like a lotta diff stuff - But , I did 3 mixtapes a few months back that were posted
here with a selection of some of my faves .assis / sitting , Debout /standing & Couche / laying .
I feel there is killer stuff in most so called genres .... ..just sometimes it's the harder to track down stuff that has the uber vibe .
Me n Nobbo have differant references and knowledge of music , but it somehow overlaps in a sweet way . He's always playing me sick stuff I didn't know ....
Somehow we share a common language that , for me , is pretty special . We both have differant skills - and obviously my aim is to deliver the juice he's looking for .

sonic sorry if this is a bad q and feel free not to answer it but, how much was weed use an influence on this material do u think? i feel like theres a lotta things goin on in the mulch of this album that u get on a whole other level when ur hi... more so than other ac projects and other music in general. for me its moments like how the "aint fate just me" drum fill is like descending a staircase down into the song as an opening into the world of the song, uno? idk maybe its just me
+ cosplay and the vape in the drawing of mrnoahs setup

A bad question ? Not at all .
Noah can better speak for himself on this one I feel ....
.....Cosplay might be a hint ...
My opinion is he uses it during writing , but he 's too on it & dialled in to be
doing that all day in the studio AND still be a sick dad either side of it .....
Day to day figuring in the studio is too critical to work that way tho , and Noah keeps a very clear head to create the myriad wonders he's able to conjure .

Me ? Yeah . But that's old news ..... I find it important . It's a filter I like ......but differant strokes for differant folks .
Tho I like to smoke ...... I can say It's NOT requisite to the full experience of GR ....just an adjunct for those who like to roll that way ...
...some people are in touch with it naturally .....
..... And Noah is probably one of those .
To me, an LP's mixes are 'nt fully checked until they've been tested in the zone .
That's when I really hear if all the little 'shadow sounds ' & vocal 'carriages ' and 'trains ' & aural illusions are all doing they're job - if the magic has merged .....
.....Subtle stuff , but like in nature , that's often where the beauty lies or gets underlined ....
.....In the attendance of simple but sympathetic and symbiotic systems .
We spent a lot if time weaving in as much mojo as we could . ....
Hope that helps. Have a great week ! XPeteK

You're such a cool dude sonic
Edit: reading that, it could be taken as sarcasm, it's not lol

Thanks for that great post Pete. I think you gave a great explanation debunking the myth that Animal Collective and PB are necessarily "drug" bands or that you have to be high to enjoy listening to them, especially this part:

Tho I like to smoke ...... I can say It's NOT requisite to the full experience of GR ....just an adjunct for those who like to roll that way ...
...some people are in touch with it naturally .....
..... And Noah is probably one of those

It's cool if people wanna smoke and listen to AC/PB, but it's also cool if they don't. Just personal preference.

Also,

.....Cosplay might be a hint ...

Next page'd

vilent_sibrate wrote:

kingo wrote:

Sonic, does this album have intended suites?

I'm sure it does in terms of sides to the vinyls
Look in to that.

Yeah . noah always claimed to be not good at sequencing .
- I helped w that on Tomboy .
But he knew what he wanted on this ......
.... The moment I saw the 4 sides I knew just from looking , that he had nailed it .
...Countersunk head n all ....

Don't forget Ms pax man / new faces in the crowd has ze hund too .
Cerberus indeed.....

demonclusters wrote:

Hey pete, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this has ever been asked directly- who are your favorite artists? Favorite albums? curious because all of the music you've said has inspired you and Noah has been great

That's wide ..... I like a lotta diff stuff - But , I did 3 mixtapes a few months back that were posted
here with a selection of some of my faves .assis / sitting , Debout /standing & Couche / laying .
I feel there is killer stuff in most so called genres .... ..just sometimes it's the harder to track down stuff that has the uber vibe .
Me n Nobbo have differant references and knowledge of music , but it somehow overlaps in a sweet way . He's always playing me sick stuff I didn't know ....
Somehow we share a common language that , for me , is pretty special . We both have differant skills - and obviously my aim is to deliver the juice he's looking for .

archie wrote:

sonic sorry if this is a bad q and feel free not to answer it but, how much was weed use an influence on this material do u think? i feel like theres a lotta things goin on in the mulch of this album that u get on a whole other level when ur hi... more so than other ac projects and other music in general. for me its moments like how the "aint fate just me" drum fill is like descending a staircase down into the song as an opening into the world of the song, uno? idk maybe its just me
+ cosplay and the vape in the drawing of mrnoahs setup

A bad question ? Not at all .
Noah can better speak for himself on this one I feel ....
.....Cosplay might be a hint ...
My opinion is he uses it during writing , but he 's too on it & dialled in to be
doing that all day in the studio AND still be a sick dad either side of it .....
Day to day figuring in the studio is too critical to work that way tho , and Noah keeps a very clear head to create the myriad wonders he's able to conjure .

Me ? Yeah . But that's old news ..... I find it important . It's a filter I like ......but differant strokes for differant folks .
Tho I like to smoke ...... I can say It's NOT requisite to the full experience of GR ....just an adjunct for those who like to roll that way ...
...some people are in touch with it naturally .....
..... And Noah is probably one of those .
To me, an LP's mixes are 'nt fully checked until they've been tested in the zone .
That's when I really hear if all the little 'shadow sounds ' & vocal 'carriages ' and 'trains ' & aural illusions are all doing they're job - if the magic has merged .....
.....Subtle stuff , but like in nature , that's often where the beauty lies or gets underlined ....
.....In the attendance of simple but sympathetic and symbiotic systems .
We spent a lot if time weaving in as much mojo as we could . ....
Hope that helps. Have a great week ! XPeteK

Sonic u r the coolest but that's old news haha

guys. just sitting here listening to mix ticks, thinking about how magical those nights were when this and the EP/announcement dropped and I'm really starting to wish that the freebird didn't happen. I know some of y'all were way ahead of me in saying this, but damn... how sick would this entire experience have been if they continued to mysteriously drop crumbs until january? (( I mean, it's still likely that this will go on to be one of my all time faves, but the experience leading up to the release of this album could have been like.. unparalleled, u feel me?

don't get me wrong.. when I listen to the freebird, I am blown away every time but it's undeniable that some of the magic is gone...

i guess what happened happened though and I'll just shut my mouth and enjoy the best album ever two months early

What is the track used in the first teaser trailer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYL2jY-SVa8 this one

it's Boys Latin, but not really how it appears on the album

PEEEEEEEEEEETE

panda bear meets the grim reefer

"In the attendance of simple but sympathetic and symbiotic systems"

it's so cool to have you post here Pete. i am really loving the new songs. so many layers revealed with each listen. hope you have a good week as well!

What is the track used in the first teaser trailer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYL2jY-SVa8 this one

It's a sample of just the vocals in Boys Latin, about 1:08 in the song. "But we don't ..."

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BOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!


will that THX drone and 50/50 screaming sample resurface anywhere?

I miss them!

Hey gurls.
Nothing's being taken away by the freebird !!
It's only a lil drip ........
Domino have stronger nerve than that ....... All the little details remain ...
.....expect the unexpected ......
Tix mix is only part of the six ....

Yeah - that boys Latin loop is mixed with a vocoder version that slowly morphs into
the pure panda .......

Y'know - I used to have this thing where I felt , on some levels , I denied myself the surprise & wonder of discovering tha panda bear records 'fresh' by working on them .
That it was a trade off ..... I got the joy for sure .....
but by the time it was all done I was in danger of over exposure .....this is super common with bands....
..... You only get to get the 'full hit'
once you've had a chance to have 'forgotten' and can come in fresh ...
But this LP ....
..... We wrestled some tracks that were not playing ball - prince real was in danger of
Being scrapped early on , but we fought it & found what it liked & needed to reach the zone we were aiming for ...
..... No doubts this lp was tough to make at times .... Sometimes crawling inside it to find what wasn't jibeing was treachourous and emotionally zapping ..... But finally.....
.... After busting thru the hard stuff , the songs just started to arrive at the next level , to sit up & stand . To beg And roll over .....
.... And suddenly I realised that everything had coalesced , and was in a place where I wasn't bored or tired or over familiar ....... Every little trick of the light that Noah had splashed thru the record ....
.... every bit of perspective - both forced forward & foreshortened that had been schemed and sewed in all started to interact as one effective elegant simple system ......
And one that is only additive ......
No reductions ......
Magic added , for sure , and much in the eye if the beholder. ....
..... But I am unable to detect anything. 'Taken away ' ......,,even after months & months ...
Noah reported a similar vibe of not tiring of the tracks or the production ....

Our main aim was to put this in a special place.... A goldilox xone .....
I'm happy it's already putting down roots ...

Like wise - back at u guise ! This , with you all , is a fun experience for me too !
I'm sorry it's a weak surrogate for the real deal panda vibe , but ...
Guess what ...... U got it ......
XPetek the unXpetek X

M O O O O OOO OO P P ! ! !

Hey Sonic, can you tell us a little bit about Jabawaqy? Your thoughts on it/why it didn't fit the vibe of the album? I'm super stoked on it and would like to hear yer insights.

Can this thread get any better?

.

I hope this entire thread gets archived or permanently stickied. there's so much insight to the record and process of making this record that this thread should be public record. For eternity.


Thanks again for being so willing to share sonic. Good deal all around.

Hmmm so I guess only 3 songs feature dogs in the lyrics.

Mr. Noah
BBCM
Principe Real

felt like more...

couple others:
sequential circuits - a good dog contemplating how much water to drink as it streams before him
crosswords - a fast young dog boasts of his speed and improving fetch skills
boys latin - beasts dont have a sec to think including dogs
ctys - a mad dog mourns a unique treat but welcomes many more
lonely wanderer - a sad old dog reflecting on his previous homes and journeys

idk if this was obvious to everyone but i onyl realised it today.. pete u were right when u said noah knew exactly where to put the songs. this album isnt just songs abt death/dealing with death etc.. the album itself is the process of dealing with death/the loss of something
sequential circuits - head high unaffected
mr noah - the dog gets bit on the leg
crosswords-denial, protagonist trying to reassure itself
come to ur senses - getting mad at the change - anger
tropic of cancer - finally breaking down
lonely wanderer - in the wake of the break down , hopelessness, was it worthwhile?
principe real - distancing self from the loss, the broken leg
selfish gene - the sudden realisation, the acceptance, its not as bad as u thought, and it will happen again n things will b ok
acid wash - triumphant, past it and stronger from it

im sure im missing a lot but this is just what i understand rn godam this album is magic

also ty for answering my question abt weed very informative

that's a really cool theory archie, damn

So what are the four vinyl sides?

I was thinkin earlier it'll be

Sequential circuits
Mr noah
Davy Jones' Locker
Crosswords

Butcher baker candlestick maker
Boys latin
Come to your senses

Tropic of cancer
Shadow of the colossus
Lonely wanderer

Principe real
Selfish gene
Acid wash

makes sense with track times and also the tracks themselves I think. Tropic of cancer opening the second disc's gonna be so good

I was thinkin earlier it'll be

Sequential circuits
Mr noah
Davy Jones' Locker
Crosswords

Butcher baker candlestick maker
Boys latin
Come to your senses

Tropic of cancer
Shadow of the colossus
Lonely wanderer

Principe real
Selfish gene
Acid wash

makes sense with track times and also the tracks themselves I think. Tropic of cancer opening the second disc's gonna be so good

according to HMV, this is almost spot on!

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ahhh too bad. that leaves side b significantly longer than the rest though. and DJs'L closin a side is also a bit strange. cool though thanks