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Posted: **Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:59 pm**

Some are saying it redeems the hocketing

Posted: **Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:44 am**

its crazy how even when panda bear covers someone elses song its about him wanting to break up the band i mean what are the chances?!!

Posted: **Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:50 pm**

noah conjures the anxious attachment style of his fans for sure

Posted: **Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:02 pm**

Damn, I listened to the remix before I heard the original and didn't even realise those were his vocals lol

Reminded me of Mike Love a lot

I like hearing the shape of his voice. Tomboy vocal production wore me out and I never bothered with the rest of his solo stuff

stash wrote:

its crazy how even when panda bear covers someone elses song its about him wanting to break up the band i mean what are the chances?!!

wtf is this nonsense lol

Here's the rap song

His singing accent is so different from the old days lol. He sounds like a middle of the road white American guy.

Posted: **Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:11 pm**

Hash wrote:

stash wrote:
its crazy how even when panda bear covers someone elses song its about him wanting to break up the band i mean what are the chances?!!

wtf is this nonsense lol

assuming stash is talking about the "Thinking of giving up again" lyric

Posted: **Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:17 pm**

I have a fan theory that actually Panda died in 2006 and was replaced by a lookalike soundalike, and "giving up" refers to the fake Panda wanting to stop pretending and finally reveal the secret

Posted: **Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:20 pm**

im jk. as per usual i dont even perceive the lyrics out of habit

Posted: **Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:16 am**

Hash wrote:

I like hearing the shape of his voice. Tomboy vocal production wore me out and I never bothered with the rest of his solo stuff

da fuck really? you never listened to Greaper or Homies or Buoys? Some great shit in there my dude.

Posted: **Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:34 am**

Hash is showing his whole ass right now

Posted: **Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:20 am**

Actually I'm stretching the truth there, I listened to most of those at least once, but I guess by that time I was too obsessed with k-pop to care about anything else. My taste in popular music is just really hard to pin down and I'm fine with that I guess.

Posted: **Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:05 pm**

>kpop

Posted: **Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:12 pm**

?

edit: fuck, I didn't even realise he released The Preakness on the Crosswords EP. I love that song and I only ever heard the tape rip

edit: oh it's a re-recording lol

Posted: **Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:05 pm**

I want to say the new remix is panda’s most melancholy song, am I forgetting something obvious? Maybe some of young prayer is sadder

Posted: **Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:35 pm**

I think there’s a few that are more melancholic. Atiba song. Tomboy. Inner Monologue.

Posted: **Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:06 pm**

Hash wrote:

?

edit: fuck, I didn't even realise he released The Preakness on the Crosswords EP. I love that song and I only ever heard the tape rip

edit: oh it's a re-recording lol

digital version of Keep EP is on their bandcamp now: https://anmlcollectve.bandcamp.com/albu ... collective

Posted: **Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:08 pm**

Interesting. New remix feels to me the opposite of melancholy. Guess I think of “Tropic of Cancer,” “Lonely Wanderer,” “Search for Delicious” as melancholy.

Posted: **Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:35 am**

Not the first time someone here has said an AC song invokes the opposite emotion I’m describing. Prob my favorite thing about them, how emotionally oblique and ambiguous their songwriting is

Posted: **Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:18 am**

maybe it's the word "melancholy"

Oh right, thanks so much scrambledgreggs!

Posted: **Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:51 pm**

What about the word melancholy?

Posted: **Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:02 pm**

I mean the meaning and application of "melancholy" may be part of the disagreement too. Like what is the opposite of melancholy, for example? I'd have thought "merriment" but that's just my own perspective. Is that even what ingenue meant though? There are so many different ways people can agree or disagree when describing any music in subjective terms.

Posted: **Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:07 pm**

Indeed. I guess that’s the point I was trying to make anyway. AC are just especially complicated in terms of emotional interpretation

I think of melancholy as a sadness that is “functional”, not yet descended into hysteria or depression, I guess. The opposite of melancholy... that’s hard because happiness is a particularly empty concept that can be stamped onto any positive excitation. Melancholy is very concretely a kind of generalized gloominess though. Maybe the ambiguity of happiness has something to do with the Buddhist concept of emptiness. Im just rambling for no reason now

Posted: **Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:50 am**

Cooper wrote:

Prob my favorite thing about them, how emotionally oblique and ambiguous their songwriting is

Indeed. The subjectivity of the musical experience is a beautiful thing. Maybe in this case it’s just semantics, but it’s kind of incredible how a seemingly simple “pop” song can evoke so much. Even as it hits ears attached to heads holding brains with minds of wildly disparate composition, ability, interest, whatever somewhere, somehow there is overlap, something shared.

The return of concerts is going to be terrific.

Posted: **Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:05 pm**

Cooper wrote:

Prob my favorite thing about them, how emotionally oblique and ambiguous their songwriting is

Life is so french toast to me

Posted: **Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:43 am**

Panda "TIred of Takes" Bear

Image : Faber Franco 2020 https://www.instagram.com/p/B-0HXFkJLFf/

Posted: **Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:51 am**

^ that picture reminds me of this Beatles anecdote, can't remember where I read it originally but I found it here:

https://shortistory.com/50-years-ago-today-essay/

wrote:

When it came to the bass, EMI had always claimed that too much bass would make the stylus jump. Paul McCartney thought this was a load of crap, and wanted to try plugging his bass directly into the recording desk instead of via an amplifier. To do this, the Abbey Road engineers invented the Direct Injection box, (the DI that we all now use on stage and in the studio).

When Lennon saw it working, he asked George Martin:

'Hey George, can you put my singing straight into the desk?'

To which George replied:

'As long as you’re prepared to have an operation that inserts a jack plug into your voice box, John.'

Posted: **Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:56 pm**

That’s so great, at least John got ADT, kinda close.
There’s definitely a recent interview with Panda where he says modern humans are something like a moose with a laser beam strapped to their heads

Posted: **Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:25 am**

did sonic boom mix this never ending game remix? re the vocoder stuff and beautifully mixed vocals

Posted: **Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:48 am**

wouldn't that make it a Sonic Boom remix?

I don't know how anything works anymore

Posted: **Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:51 pm**

AFAIK mixing is just deciding how loud each individual track is? And mastering is where the wizardry comes in?

Posted: **Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:40 pm**

It's more complicated than that. It depends a lot on how a track/album is produced, and every track is produced differently, sometimes wildly differently.

I assume Panda Bear is perfectly capable of doing a nice mix of a song himself at this point

Posted: **Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:15 pm**

I doubt he would enlist someone else to mix his remix but stranger things have happened I guess

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:21 am**

Cooper wrote:

AFAIK mixing is just deciding how loud each individual track is? And mastering is where the wizardry comes in?

Mixing is actually where, I’d argue, the wizardry happens. Individual levels, yes, but also the panning of sounds, application of effects and saturation and compression and equalizing. I like to think of it as the stage where design and manufacturing occurs. (You decide on the recipe and bake the thing.) Mastering is like the packaging and “quality control” phase where the songs—cooked, baked, set in stone—are themselves level matched, beefed-up if necessary, given a bit of pixie dust if required. Mastering, in other words, is what is applied after they’ve been removed from the kiln.

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:43 am**

Good analogy!

Also archie there is no vocoder on that track

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:37 am**

ingenue wrote:

Cooper wrote:
AFAIK mixing is just deciding how loud each individual track is? And mastering is where the wizardry comes in?

Mixing is actually where, I’d argue, the wizardry happens. Individual levels, yes, but also the panning of sounds, application of effects and saturation and compression and equalizing. I like to think of it as the stage where design and manufacturing occurs. (You decide on the recipe and bake the thing.) Mastering is like the packaging and “quality control” phase where the songs—cooked, baked, set in stone—are themselves level matched, beefed-up if necessary, given a bit of pixie dust if required. Mastering, in other words, is what is applied after they’ve been removed from the kiln.

Beautiful thank you

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:11 pm**

If we're using the baking analogy, think of Ben Allen as a $30 microwave and Scott Colburn as a professional grade wood-fired pizza oven

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:35 pm**

Rusty Santos has an air fryer

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:00 pm**

"We’re nearly done with a new Animal Collective record, and I’ve been making stuff with Pete."

https://lastdonutofthenight.substack.co ... -parenting

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:49 pm**

I'm guuueeessing a possible late autumn release?

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:52 pm**

Fovrodi wrote:

"...and I’ve been making stuff with Pete."

Another something nice to look forward to

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:18 pm**

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