Collected Animals

okay having listened to this bad boy dozens of times i'm ready to make a statement. I like Time Skiffs better than Merriweather Post Pavilion.

I actually very much feel this is their best album almost without question. Of course there is a ton of nostalgia listening to the early works through my teens and 20s, and I fucking love every piece of music they've put out... But this entire album front to back is just bliss, so good. I'm very sentimental so I know this album will also be held in an incredibly special place in my heart years from now. I love it. Fingers everyone.

well said Hellomark

Their run of releases from 2000-2010 is basically untouchable for me, both due to personal sentimental reasons and that I really feel like they were the most interesting and creative band at that time to receive the level of acclaim they did. That being said, I really appreciate TS as what feels like a step in a more pleasing direction. Its a massive improvement in production over CHz, and in songwriting over PW. Does that mean it matches the way I feel about their earlier work? Well, as others have said, it's a little early to tell, these songs could definitely appreciate in beauty and meaning over the years. But at the moment, I'd have to say no not really. And that's perfectly fine.

Hellomark wrote:

Their run of releases from 2000-2010 is basically untouchable for me, both due to personal sentimental reasons and that I really feel like they were the most interesting and creative band at that time to receive the level of acclaim they did. That being said, I really appreciate TS as what feels like a step in a more pleasing direction. Its a massive improvement in production over CHz, and in songwriting over PW. Does that mean it matches the way I feel about their earlier work? Well, as others have said, it's a little early to tell, these songs could definitely appreciate in beauty and meaning over the years. But at the moment, I'd have to say no not really. And that's perfectly fine.

you've extrapolated on where i was heading -- and i share your sentiments.

based on time/place context -- the records' appearances both within my life and the context of (indie) music in the 2000s -- i find it hard to fathom ever loving an AC album as extremely as i do those ones. those albums are so linked to discovery, growth, coming-of-age, etc. that there is that piece of nostalgia/golden memory that grows evermore cherished as the years go by, only increasing my regard of those albums to even higher levels.

but, there's no way of knowing for certain if i can develop a second wind of this kind of inspiration/connection/kindship with TS and TS2 until time has passed and i've grown with them and seen how they intertwine in my life and change with me, hence why i say i need to give this 3 years to know for certain where it stands.

for now, i regard Time Skiffs as a very good AC album -- but this is more an intellectual take than the more primal emotional experiences i have with the 2000s output, which were mostly me being doused in wonder/awe/perplexity, pounded by the waves of stupefaction ... i totally have an emotional connection to Time Skiffs, but for me it's still fresh, it feels like a new girl in my life and i can't tell if i'm just crushing hard and blinded by love.

here's to being more in love with this album in 5 years as i am right now! for now, all i can say is it's damn good.

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Hellomark wrote:

Their run of releases from 2000-2010 is basically untouchable for me, both due to personal sentimental reasons and that I really feel like they were the most interesting and creative band at that time to receive the level of acclaim they did. That being said, I really appreciate TS as what feels like a step in a more pleasing direction. Its a massive improvement in production over CHz, and in songwriting over PW. Does that mean it matches the way I feel about their earlier work? Well, as others have said, it's a little early to tell, these songs could definitely appreciate in beauty and meaning over the years. But at the moment, I'd have to say no not really. And that's perfectly fine.

you've extrapolated on where i was heading -- and i share your sentiments.

based on time/place context -- the records' appearances both within my life and the context of (indie) music in the 2000s -- i find it hard to fathom ever loving an AC album as extremely as i do those ones. those albums are so linked to discovery, growth, coming-of-age, etc. that there is that piece of nostalgia/golden memory that grows evermore cherished as the years go by, only increasing my regard of those albums to even higher levels.

but, there's no way of knowing for certain if i can develop a second wind of this kind of inspiration/connection/kindship with TS and TS2 until time has passed and i've grown with them and seen how they intertwine in my life and change with me, hence why i say i need to give this 3 years to know for certain where it stands.

for now, i regard Time Skiffs as a very good AC album -- but this is more an intellectual take than the more primal emotional experiences i have with the 2000s output, which were mostly me being doused in wonder/awe/perplexity, pounded by the waves of stupefaction ... i totally have an emotional connection to Time Skiffs, but for me it's still fresh, it feels like a new girl in my life and i can't tell if i'm just crushing hard and blinded by love.

here's to being more in love with this album in 5 years as i am right now! for now, all i can say is it's damn good.

Between the remote recordings and the return to playing in person, the rejuvenated atmosphere led to a surprising addition: the band wrote and recorded an entirely new album before Time Skiffs was even done. “We don’t have a set-in-stone plan for the next record, but it’s all been recorded and hopefully it will be mixed in the next few months,” Dibb reveals. “And I would assume that means that it’ll be coming out in some form, whether it’s as just the next album or an album with an EP. I’m not really sure, but I would imagine that will be coming out within a year’s time, I would hope. Maybe early next year. And so that will be another record coming out with a bunch of songs that we’re going to want to be, you know, supporting and going on the road with.”

Dibb admits that Animal Collective tend to work in “cycles” and that “part of me kind of imagines that some of that will need to start happening at some point in the next 12 to 18 months. People will either be feeling like it’s time to take a break or starting to really think about a new-new-new batch of songs, and maybe even a new way of imagining what we’re doing. I don’t really know if I can totally predict what’s going to happen.”

He continued: “I think there’ll be a balance. I think we all really want to keep doing this. There’s always been a very important element to us of not burning out on material or burning out on energy. And that’s why we oftentimes reinvent ourselves every couple of years. Then each record really feels like it’s a really new world”.

Ultimately, Animal Collective have no plans to stop that exploration that has become their modus operandi. “I know that there’s going to be a point in the future where what we’ve been doing and how we’ve been doing it will start to feel – boring is the wrong word – but yeah, it’ll just kind of feel like we’re ready to move on to something different,” he adds. “And I don’t know when that point will happen. I know it will, and it could be in a year, it could be in two. At that point, there will probably either be a whole new AC era or people will want to take a break and work on solo stuff and kind of come back around after that.”

full deakin interview on the site that had the ~~~new record already recorded exclusive~~~

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/deakin-ani ... new-music/

awesome wrote:

full deakin interview on the site that had the ~~~new record already recorded exclusive~~~

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/deakin-ani ... new-music/

thanks for the link, very informative, but also God, if only journalists could get over the trope of "so here he was, guess what, wearing HUMAN CLOTHES, and communicating by SPEAKING ENGLISH with his MOUTH, how incredible and unexpected"... and it isn't even as if they had elaborate stage personas, they present themselves as t-shirt-wearing dudes

God I love how the outro to Walker is Avey guiding you into the Avey zone for Cherokee. It gets me so pumped.

I think it's clicked a little for me

I think what had been throwing me with this album is how earnestly "performed" everything sounds. By which I mean, the usual product of AC's psychedelic production is that the final product sounds alive on its own, totally removed from the body playing the instrument (voice included). But on Time Skiffs, the drums really sound like Noah holding some sticks, hitting some drums. The keyboard parts are unashamedly "keys" parts. The band members are upfront and themselves in the performance of this album. And yet, somehow they still retain the detailed, full-of-secrets mixing style they've always had

I do realise not everyone might hear it that way

Panda wrote so many songs about masturbation at this point that I wouldn't be surprised if he'd just straight-up drop a song called wanker.

This is a fucking brilliant post. Best forum I ever been on.

I think it's clicked a little for me

I think what had been throwing me with this album is how earnestly "performed" everything sounds. By which I mean, the usual product of AC's psychedelic production is that the final product sounds alive on its own, totally removed from the body playing the instrument (voice included). But on Time Skiffs, the drums really sound like Noah holding some sticks, hitting some drums. The keyboard parts are unashamedly "keys" parts. The band members are upfront and themselves in the performance of this album. And yet, somehow they still retain the detailed, full-of-secrets mixing style they've always had

I do realise not everyone might hear it that way

bullseye wrote:

Panda wrote so many songs about masturbation at this point that I wouldn't be surprised if he'd just straight-up drop a song called wanker.

"you're gonna get a standing o" means "standing orgasm" and is about jacking off into a toilet

podcast interview with noah and josh: https://www.thefader.com/2022/02/11/lis ... -interview