[wilandhugs]

r_o_s_s wrote:

What the hell is that scary-ass noise at the end of Cherokee. 4am and it honestly spooked me. Extremely cool.

I think that might be the fretless banjo if you're referring to the same thing I'm thinking of?

Also I'm almost kinda getting the "new age" thing people are referring to, although there's no semblance of corniness. it's more just the time warp take on exotica that just really feels like sailing across an endless foggy ocean following the beam of a lighthouse.

Oh yeah, and Dragon Slayer totally reminds me of early SpongeBob for some reason.

[destiny]

nothingmaster wrote:

Had a really nice listen to this album. Been playing it on speakers several times this past week and finally took it on a jog-walk with headphones. I gotta say, this album really shines on headphones after getting used to it on speakers. The stereo imagery is a pretty huge part of this record. It's a lot to take in on headphones at first, but it works insanely well on both speakers and cans.

The idea of collages are obviously a central theme running throughout just about every aspect of this music. I imagine assembling Time Skiffs and Bridge to Quiet to be very similar to the process of making a collage. Passing around discrete chunks of sound to each other and lining them up in a way that creates the overall song. Avey clearly further expanded the idea of collages into his lyrics that seem to explore the idea of life experience as a collection of individual moments that make the "collage" of your identity. There is a sadness to that represented on the album where it can feel like everything you know is this arbitrary stream of moments. I pick that up in PJ and PB. But like on the cover, beneath the cracks is a deeper spiritual world, one that is longed for by the singers. In Car Keys, Panda sings about breaking through the surface level patterns and regaining control of his life. In Royal, Deakin closes his eyes while listening to a song and remembers his intrinsic passion for life and love, which expands the theme of art being some kind of windows in the "Grand Collage" that can take you to those underlying spiritual places.

Those were all just rambling half thoughts, it's a very thematically dense album but also very human, so excited to keep discovering it.

Fuck yes. Love this read of the album. I can def agree too. Especially with how much collages and shit pop up in their work. It ties into We Go Back and Prester so well. Even the vid for We Go Back.

['Worms']

has anyone besides the paste review (https://www.pastemagazine.com/music/ani ... um-review/) pointed out that the last couple seconds of royal & desire interpolate the in the flowers arpeggio?
it's subtle but it definitely doesn't feel coincidental; interesting to connect it to the time transportation themes they're working with

[Hellomark]

Yeah a few people have noticed that, it is indeed a super cool detail. Also interesting since In the Flowers has been sort of a staple of this whole live era.

I love the lyrics to Car Keys, especially the end

A hole in the ground
And on holy ground
Show gratitude
And be on your way

Makes me imagine a scene where someone's grave has been dug, but a choice is made to spare their life. Sort of like Gabriel Byrne letting John Tuturro live in Millers Crossing. Very heavy and dramatic, also fits with the songs theme of taking control of your actions. And aside from that I just love the way he sings it, squishing together the first couple syllables of each line. Something very dubby about it.

[bobbyonename]

Listened to this PB remix today ~

Really fucking cool to hear the way he's been talking in interviews about his drumming style this go around and see that he's been dropping hints of it here and there the last few years, with Solange's Binz as well.

[rampface]

The bassline on Cherokee is nice. I like that it doesn't resolve on the 1 so it sounds like it's always behind. The rhythm section is a large part of my enjoyment of Time Skiffs. I love how restrained and dynamic Panda's playing feels while Avey is the melodic anchor in most of the songs.Could never guess that this wasn't played "live" together in the same room.

[thegasprices]

Hello old friends and new ones. I gottSay, this.album is soo good. It is so good it makes painting with sound good too. Does that make sense to anyone?

[Fovrodi]

This album is too much in a way that's gonna take me a while to figure out

[Fovrodi]

[dio]

^cool

You know I actually enjoy the lyrics of AC a decent bit beyond their texture and rhythm but I feel like I like them more here than usual. Underrated feature of Skiffs. And thats even WITH them changing the lyrics to a live fave (Passer-by)

Chorus of Walker keeps growing more powerful. Concerning.

[coral lord]

I absolutely love the way he says “and be on your way” in Car Keys

[Fonz]

I find that their approach to field recordings and sound collages as transitions, intros, and outros on this album are highly effective, allowing them to stick close to melody and rhythm in the body. That car keys chorus to outro is fuckin oof…. So good.

I’m currently on Cherokee and it just dawned on me… it has a very very Spirit They’ve Gone, Spirit They’ve Vanished vibe. It’s sick, like a tribute to their songwriting on their first album.

[nickinko]

Love the album but for some reason Royal & Desire isn't totally doing it for me. I realise I'm on my own on this one.

[speen]

Fonz wrote:

I’m currently on Cherokee and it just dawned on me… it has a very very Spirit They’ve Gone, Spirit They’ve Vanished vibe. It’s sick, like a tribute to their songwriting on their first album.

i see lots of similarities to spirit theyre gone on this album. it feels in a sense like coming full circle

[Fonz]

Hey, not only that but that sing song-y chorus of Strung on Everything just sounds like a Grateful Deadish vibe as well. Just has this live festival setting to it. Really cool sound and that ones growing on me now too. Not a single filler song on here

[awesome]

on the band's and avey's insta stories there appears to be a collage thing of records that inspired/influenced skiffs.....

[ingenue]

Went for a sunset walk with Time Skiffs. It’s such a beautiful recording. “Royal” is so saccharine and, well, pretty—sounds to me like nothing else in their discography, besides maybe “It’s You.” Kind of inexplicable how hearing the singles in context has really improved them. “All hearts are strange” is the line hitting hardest right now. I love how Dave’s lyrics can roam so far between lean, universal pop and, as in “Cherokee,” wordy, obscurantist world-building. I love his buried fretless bass on “Car Keys” too.

Were the official lyrics released? Anyone know what page of this thread they’re hiding on?

[doggyfactory]

awesome wrote:

on the band's and avey's insta stories there appears to be a collage thing of records that inspired/influenced skiffs.....

I think they just used the mail order ad for the aesthetic and highlighted the records they happened to like. Most of them are pretty LOL like Tom Jones.

Interesting that they left the words "in the next" on the left image!

Edit: you can see an ad that is close to the original here:
https://www.comicbloc.com/read/2012/06/ ... the-1970s/

Almost the same artists and tapes with in a different order

[ingenue]

onebraineno wrote:

dio wrote:

nickinko wrote:

I think the last minute of Dragon Slayer is my favourite minute on the album.

Yeah, If you're lukewarm on DS I'd say spend a little more time with it, played over different things. I think its gorgeous and it took me a second-- felt a lil muted at first. But the ending with those chimes.... bells? glockenspiel-synths or like celeste? Is incredible.

Its so layered and epic.


Also, SWE I could see almost loosing one of the end-choruses I guess, I mean not really, but yeah its long and I actually enjoy the verses/bridges more than the big chorus now? "Suns no better off" is the new "when the Sun comes out, we'll go out again".

The middle singles chunk hits harder than ever now... Prester is newly listenable again (as in, no longer borderline burnt out on it) and SWE brings such a cool expansion of sounds to the album.

Walker is the big anomaly. Its grown on me so much. If yah recall, I was kinda whatever on it the day it dropped. It somehow keeps sounding better, so weird. Almost my favorite production here?

And then the last Avey suite into R&D is just amazing too.

Screw the 4 sides of a vinyl, this is a triptych. Its 3 arcs of an anime or a medieval lay or some shit. Opening salvo of Slayer/Keys,-->
Prester connects that via more heavy keyboard focus into SWE/Walker single madness
Then Cherokee takes you by the hand into the Avey zone, Deak sees you out. Elegiac viking funeral.

incredible..

(this is the first meme I've made in over a decade. sorry everyone)

Perfect lol tho I wish it really was “Royal & Defeat.” Freakin’ imagine that.

[Ethmin]

ingenue wrote:

Went for a sunset walk with Time Skiffs. It’s such a beautiful recording. “Royal” is so saccharine and, well, pretty—sounds to me like nothing else in their discography, besides maybe “It’s You.” Kind of inexplicable how hearing the singles in context has really improved them. “All hearts are strange” is the line hitting hardest right now. I love how Dave’s lyrics can roam so far between lean, universal pop and, as in “Cherokee,” wordy, obscurantist world-building. I love his buried fretless bass on “Car Keys” too.

Were the official lyrics released? Anyone know what page of this thread they’re hiding on?

https://genius.com/albums/Animal-collective/Time-skiffs

[ingenue]

Ethmin wrote:

ingenue wrote:

Went for a sunset walk with Time Skiffs. It’s such a beautiful recording. “Royal” is so saccharine and, well, pretty—sounds to me like nothing else in their discography, besides maybe “It’s You.” Kind of inexplicable how hearing the singles in context has really improved them. “All hearts are strange” is the line hitting hardest right now. I love how Dave’s lyrics can roam so far between lean, universal pop and, as in “Cherokee,” wordy, obscurantist world-building. I love his buried fretless bass on “Car Keys” too.

Were the official lyrics released? Anyone know what page of this thread they’re hiding on?

https://genius.com/albums/Animal-collective/Time-skiffs

Groovy thank you

[JMC08]

'Worms' wrote:

has anyone besides the paste review (https://www.pastemagazine.com/music/ani ... um-review/) pointed out that the last couple seconds of royal & desire interpolate the in the flowers arpeggio?
it's subtle but it definitely doesn't feel coincidental; interesting to connect it to the time transportation themes they're working with

I hear many sounds that sound like they're taken directly from the catalogue throughout the album. Definitely a Down There moment...beginning of Car Keys sounds like PW/Spirit (the one I'm least sure about)...in WGB the last beat before the chrouses HAVE to be from Lying in the Grass. Its so cool

[JMC08]

JMC08 wrote:

'Worms' wrote:

has anyone besides the paste review (https://www.pastemagazine.com/music/ani ... um-review/) pointed out that the last couple seconds of royal & desire interpolate the in the flowers arpeggio?
it's subtle but it definitely doesn't feel coincidental; interesting to connect it to the time transportation themes they're working with

I hear many sounds that sound like they're taken directly from the catalogue throughout the album. Definitely a Down There moment...beginning of Car Keys sounds like PW/Spirit (the one I'm least sure about)...in WGB the last beat before the chrouses HAVE to be from Lying in the Grass. Its so cool

last beat at the end of each verse line, rather

[Hellomark]

That quick "ooooooohhhh" at the beginning of Car Keys makes me think of a couple different Panda songs, Atiba Song being the first that comes to mind.

[dio]

That opener scares me, it's great^

Cherokee as a meditation on the way language changes as places do as well and how that's reflective in our own change by the layering of memories (and also forgetfulness) and ultimately a post structuralist travelogue

[BORCHENKO??]

Favorite part of Car Keys intro is Panda(?) doing the weird vocal fried "ahhs" to the rhythm. So dope

[awesome]

https://www.gorillavsbear.net/gorilla-v ... ollective/

[foxtrot]

Dragon Slayer is like a drink of cold water on a hot day. Just the most simple, refreshing and life sustaining, joyful thing ever.

[onebraineno]

ingenue wrote:

onebraineno wrote:

dio wrote:

nickinko wrote:

I think the last minute of Dragon Slayer is my favourite minute on the album.

Yeah, If you're lukewarm on DS I'd say spend a little more time with it, played over different things. I think its gorgeous and it took me a second-- felt a lil muted at first. But the ending with those chimes.... bells? glockenspiel-synths or like celeste? Is incredible.

Its so layered and epic.


Also, SWE I could see almost loosing one of the end-choruses I guess, I mean not really, but yeah its long and I actually enjoy the verses/bridges more than the big chorus now? "Suns no better off" is the new "when the Sun comes out, we'll go out again".

The middle singles chunk hits harder than ever now... Prester is newly listenable again (as in, no longer borderline burnt out on it) and SWE brings such a cool expansion of sounds to the album.

Walker is the big anomaly. Its grown on me so much. If yah recall, I was kinda whatever on it the day it dropped. It somehow keeps sounding better, so weird. Almost my favorite production here?

And then the last Avey suite into R&D is just amazing too.

Screw the 4 sides of a vinyl, this is a triptych. Its 3 arcs of an anime or a medieval lay or some shit. Opening salvo of Slayer/Keys,-->
Prester connects that via more heavy keyboard focus into SWE/Walker single madness
Then Cherokee takes you by the hand into the Avey zone, Deak sees you out. Elegiac viking funeral.

incredible..

(this is the first meme I've made in over a decade. sorry everyone)

Perfect lol tho I wish it really was “Royal & Defeat.” Freakin’ imagine that.

I swear to god I make a typo with everything I ever post online.

[coral lord]

foxtrot wrote:

Dragon Slayer is like a drink of cold water on a hot day. Just the most simple, refreshing and life sustaining, joyful thing ever.

it's a trip to a tropical rainforest that i wanted

[foxtrot]

for sure!

the whole album is so refreshing. so cleansing. the perfect album for this point in their career and this point in my life. i am so grateful for this album.

[Fovrodi]

Car Keys kind of feels like Slow Motion, angrily interrogating the uh human condition

[samthefireball]

I’ve listened about 5 times, once with the lyrics. My ranking rn is

S tier: strung with everything

A tier: Royal and desire, car keys

B tier: Cherokee, Walker, dragon slayer

C tier: Prester John

D tier: we go back

F: passer-by

Prob will change, but overall I feel about the same as I did with PW (which led me to lower expectations going in). I think I like it less than the majority, but a couple of gems so I’m still happy! Not gonna do a huge write up until I’ve fully digested.

[foxtrot]

I think this thing takes off even more after 6 or 7 listens. It somehow gains even more clarity and just leaves me in awe.

[roopn]

Amazed with how the drums really have a voice of their own in the mix, I've never heard anything like that before

[Stories and Games]

having a sort of obsession with dragon slayer more than any other song on here. it's just such a delicious blend of textures and my brain is constantly craving it. the autoharps were an absolutely perfect touch

[Fovrodi]

Dragon Slayer really makes me smile

[Fovrodi]

This album is too much

[ingenue]

roopn wrote:

Amazed with how the drums really have a voice of their own in the mix, I've never heard anything like that before

Second this. They make the record. Kind of like a Tame Impala-esque level of attention, but in a totally different but mesmerizing way.

[madameghostly]

this was funnier in my head

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