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Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:33 pm
by howsoever
Fovrodi wrote:
I love Spiderman 3

That’s right.

Also this part of the Billboard interview Panda did is so funny. If anything just for the last line:
wrote:
I know it’s not your song, but do you know why Prester John, an apocryphal Christian king from centuries ago, inspired this song?

I don’t. Seems like you’d expect a band to be talking about what the song means but we’re pretty guarded about that. I don’t know for what reason. Occasionally one of us will be like, “that’s a cool lyric, what were you thinking there?” I guess we’re trying to be respectful of each other. I don’t know what his Prester John thing is to be honest.


Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:35 pm
by zilgen
Spoiler: show
foxtrot wrote:
This part is incredible:
wrote:
I stood for a moment and the sun went down
I got sad for the sun cause I would get lonely
Leaving a trail of darkness on a world behind
And always being sun for a world beyond
That just begins

Avey reflecting on his place in the cosmos. We often feel alone as humans. Insignificant grains of sand in an infinite universe. But even the fucking sun is a lonely, insignificant speck, merely shining light on others. Which totally reconceptualises the chorus:
wrote:
Over and over our song on my brain
I go back
We go back and I play it again
How far we go back is how forward we’ll go
It’s up to the Pleiades
And down the marrow

It's not as simple as playing old songs for fans or whatever. It is Avey orienting himself in time and space. Our memories generate the values and feelings that propel us into the future. The universe (the Pleiades) and our insides (the marrow) are one and the same. We're both vital and insignificant in the infinite time and space that we inhabit.

Not dissimilar to some of the ideas in SWE too.


Love your interpretation. Avey's lyrics can seem simple on the surface, but are actually much more than what they seem. One of my favorite examples of this is "Good Lovin' Outside" which everyone says is explicitly about sex outside, but I believe it means much more than that, to love someone "on the outside," meaning to be explicitly open to someone with love. The explicitness in the lyrics is more a tool to evoke the explicitness needed for love, if that make sense.

But his lyrics on We Go Back are super coincidental (or not?) to me. He mentions Pleiades
which was the constellation I grew an attachment for as a teen, coincidentally about when I got into the band. I didn't know the name Pleiades, but to me he looked like a penguin belly sliding across the milky way. I named him Petey the penguin.

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:40 pm
by unrecordednight
wilandhugs wrote:
Slippi's Applesauce wrote:
unrecordednight wrote:
awesome wrote:
floats wrote:
Sounds like we may have collectively jumped the gun on the state of TS 2. Feels like there might be a lot of things undecided and unrecorded still.

yeah maybe but i also wonder if they're downplaying it to focus on ts1

yeah i'm now left wondering if what they recorded in december was a companion EP rather than a full length follow up. does 17 days of recording seem too short for an album or too long for an ep or could it go either way?

Don’t forget in that interview with panda and Avey from a few weeks ago they said they were in Brooklyn recording a sort of companion record. Not sure why panda is rewriting the narrative lol

Lol what if Domino was like "shut the fuck up actually".

lmfao :lol: can someone please link that interview where they talk of recording in brooklyn? might have missed

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:51 pm
by cramberry
LOVE THE NEW ALBUM TOO MUCH, HOW COULD THEY DO THIS TO ME??

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:01 pm
by Slippi's Applesauce
unrecordednight wrote:
wilandhugs wrote:
Slippi's Applesauce wrote:
unrecordednight wrote:
awesome wrote:
floats wrote:
Sounds like we may have collectively jumped the gun on the state of TS 2. Feels like there might be a lot of things undecided and unrecorded still.

yeah maybe but i also wonder if they're downplaying it to focus on ts1

yeah i'm now left wondering if what they recorded in december was a companion EP rather than a full length follow up. does 17 days of recording seem too short for an album or too long for an ep or could it go either way?

Don’t forget in that interview with panda and Avey from a few weeks ago they said they were in Brooklyn recording a sort of companion record. Not sure why panda is rewriting the narrative lol

Lol what if Domino was like "shut the fuck up actually".

lmfao :lol: can someone please link that interview where they talk of recording in brooklyn? might have missed

I gotchu it was the uncut one

https://ibb.co/nLzvFHc
https://ibb.co/y8PgQK3

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:10 pm
by scrambledgreggs
yeah either they didn't finish recording it all or they have even more stuff that they've written since they debuted this batch in 2018/19

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:10 pm
by unrecordednight
thanks!! :)

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:17 pm
by awesome

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:28 pm
by nickinko
Hi everyone,

I read the forum regularly and really appreciate the atmosphere here but, apparently, have posted just 3 times in the 6 years since registering . And one of those was earlier this evening. Anwyay, I love everything AC related but first impressions are this is their best record since MPP. So, working on the basis that what this forum needs is another poster breaking the album down track by track:

~ the last near minute of Dragon Slayer with all those bells and stuff in the background just builds to such bliss. Hard to let this one go, but we must.

~ the squiggly synths and 'How are we doing now?' Panda refrain in Car Keys are so nice. It's obvious but no less heart rending for that.

- those glittery synths behind the chorus of Prester John (I might be a synths guy), also the outro bit reminds me of Twin Peaks: The Return or something. This whole song just has a good vibe. Also:Deakness.

- If push came to shove, and wrong-headed as it is, I'd say my aesthetic was 60% Panda and 40% Avey, but as if those awkward little half-verses by AT on Strung With Everything aren't enough, he then flies in with Rev Green-level goodness in the outro (n.b.this is an album of gr8 outros n.b.2. the Panda drumming here is crucial). The way this song morphs from quiet calypso to raucous outro is a thing of beauty. Like, it literally makes my heart beat faster.

~ The bendy bass(?) prompts on Walker exemplify the way AC's decision making can sometimes be so simple and so right. This song is a bit smaller but tightly packed with good stuff. The Panda-Scott love, the almost Sleep-Cycle psych vibes, and the spoken word outro keep things tight. Plus, xylophone.

~ Cherokee - as other posters have noted, the drum step-up at 3.25 is a smiler, but then the real genius of the pause before the chorus straight afterwards and that reverby vocal/synth chorus. Well, it's quite something. That middle section is just sensational though, and moments like that are the reason this album will be in the top 3 on a lot of future top 10 AC Releases lists.

~ I love the big gong/cymbal crashes on Passer By. The song missed me a bit first time round and I wondered whether it would be the weak link on the album, but after a few playthroughs I think it's kind of great. Also, appreciate stan's thread/post o this song, which made me listen to it anew. And another killer outro. Man, they really gave this album such care.

~ perhaps the least integrated song on the album, but the chorus vocals are nice and I love the slower breakdown clicks and glocks 'sad for the sun' outro #we'rejustbeginning

~ finally, I love the lightness of Royal And Desire. That bit at 2.50 almost takes off. Perhaps, reading this forum, it doesn;t slay me quite like it does others, but I like the way it rounds off the album. But I see a lot of people saying this is the standout song and something's not quite clicking here. Needs more time, perhaps. But a beautiful end to a beaufitul album. Cool beans.



I mean. also, just to add to the love for the segues and interludes on this album, which just elevate it and make it such a coherent work as whole. I think there's an interesting experimental instrumental undertow to AC that really appeals to some fans' sensibilities.







-

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:35 pm
by DownthereSwampthing
I made a playlist that breaks up the Skiffs songs and slices in other music from the AC discography. Some of the transitions work really well, like Car Keys into Applesauce or Walker into Throwin' The Round Ball. Hearing the old and new played side by side does something special for me. It's like having the band's whole journey compressed into this wibbly wobbly, timey wimey thing. Maybe you'll appreciate it also.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6jisN ... eeeb254c86

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:38 pm
by conswaygo
After much thought I finally decided on some rankings.

S tier: Dragon Slayer, Car Keys, Prestor, Strung, Walker, Cherokee, Passer-by, WGB, Royal

D tier: Strung With Chipmunks OG Vinyl Rip

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:53 pm
by scummy
ingenue wrote:
Something about the “always passing” line Panda sings at the end of “Passer-by” that rubs me the wrong way. Lightens it up too much. Want it darker.

this bothers me a lot too! the fact that they keep saying it kinda takes away from the mystique for me. there's just something about it that's very un-AnCo (which is a very silly thing to say) for them. i feel like in an older song like that Noah might've sang about something that was relevant to the song and himself, but not so on-the-nose.
weird little quirk, but it hurts because it's my favorite song on the album! and every time i listen to it i feel like i'm hoping that the lyrics are different lmao

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:02 pm
by Maury
I was optimistic about this when I started but as I listened to the rest of the album at work tonight it all just sort of blurred together, it feels meandering and loose in a way that doesn't appeal to me. I can appreciate that what they're doing is "Good" but it's just not what I'm looking for out of music lately. Maybe one day I'll put it on and get into it.

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:06 pm
by Dallou
If I buy the album on bandcamp, do the band get the money or does it go to domino ?

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:15 pm
by Fonz
nickinko wrote:
Hi everyone,

I read the forum regularly and really appreciate the atmosphere here but, apparently, have posted just 3 times in the 6 years since registering . And one of those was earlier this evening. Anwyay, I love everything AC related but first impressions are this is their best record since MPP. So, working on the basis that what this forum needs is another poster breaking the album down track by track:

~ the last near minute of Dragon Slayer with all those bells and stuff in the background just builds to such bliss. Hard to let this one go, but we must.

~ the squiggly synths and 'How are we doing now?' Panda refrain in Car Keys are so nice. It's obvious but no less heart rending for that.

- those glittery synths behind the chorus of Prester John (I might be a synths guy), also the outro bit reminds me of Twin Peaks: The Return or something. This whole song just has a good vibe. Also:Deakness.

- If push came to shove, and wrong-headed as it is, I'd say my aesthetic was 60% Panda and 40% Avey, but as if those awkward little half-verses by AT on Strung With Everything aren't enough, he then flies in with Rev Green-level goodness in the outro (n.b.this is an album of gr8 outros n.b.2. the Panda drumming here is crucial). The way this song morphs from quiet calypso to raucous outro is a thing of beauty. Like, it literally makes my heart beat faster.

~ The bendy bass(?) prompts on Walker exemplify the way AC's decision making can sometimes be so simple and so right. This song is a bit smaller but tightly packed with good stuff. The Panda-Scott love, the almost Sleep-Cycle psych vibes, and the spoken word outro keep things tight. Plus, xylophone.

~ Cherokee - as other posters have noted, the drum step-up at 3.25 is a smiler, but then the real genius of the pause before the chorus straight afterwards and that reverby vocal/synth chorus. Well, it's quite something. That middle section is just sensational though, and moments like that are the reason this album will be in the top 3 on a lot of future top 10 AC Releases lists.

~ I love the big gong/cymbal crashes on Passer By. The song missed me a bit first time round and I wondered whether it would be the weak link on the album, but after a few playthroughs I think it's kind of great. Also, appreciate stan's thread/post o this song, which made me listen to it anew. And another killer outro. Man, they really gave this album such care.

~ perhaps the least integrated song on the album, but the chorus vocals are nice and I love the slower breakdown clicks and glocks 'sad for the sun' outro #we'rejustbeginning

~ finally, I love the lightness of Royal And Desire. That bit at 2.50 almost takes off. Perhaps, reading this forum, it doesn;t slay me quite like it does others, but I like the way it rounds off the album. But I see a lot of people saying this is the standout song and something's not quite clicking here. Needs more time, perhaps. But a beautiful end to a beaufitul album. Cool beans.



I mean. also, just to add to the love for the segues and interludes on this album, which just elevate it and make it such a coherent work as whole. I think there's an interesting experimental instrumental undertow to AC that really appeals to some fans' sensibilities.







-

I feel basically your same sentiment. This is the best since MPP while I definitely enjoyed CHz and PW they never left me truly astounded the way MPP did at the time. This is fantastic stuff. Sonic bliss collage throughout with a great sense of rhythm that seems a little more accessible but in a good way.

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:26 pm
by rampface
Time Skiffs is really special. The boys did it again. Can't wait to have part 2

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:55 pm
by BreadBagel
Time Skiffs currently at 11th for 2022 on BestEverAlbums. I know it doesn't actually matter what a bunch of critics say but it would still be cool if it got to #1. It was just so exciting when MPP was at #1 cause to a lot of people it's just some weird fringe group, and yet they can manage to gain mass recognition. Fun to be a part of that in some way.

Lots of critics/people saying this is a return to form or something for AC. In my mind, they never went off track. It's just that this release happens to be more accessible than Hz or PW, it's not like it's objectively better and it's not like they set out to "make a comeback". That being said, I might end up ranking this above Hz and PW eventually but it's too early to know.

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:21 am
by speen
cramberry wrote:
LOVE THE NEW ALBUM TOO MUCH, HOW COULD THEY DO THIS TO ME??


Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:29 am
by headroom)))
Great album, I love the new sonic palate. Super immersive! Definitely sounds better on speakers with room to breathe as opposed to headphones. Some beautiful melodies on the album, so great to hear that.

Really wish that the dudes would put out some songs with the sound collage/field recording stuff as full songs. Its cool hearing them as intro/outros, but would love to hear longer pieces of that stuff cuz its beautiful in its own way.

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:40 am
by Hellomark
I've had Prester/Cherokee/Royal in a 3 way tie for favorite track but WGB is getting close to making it a 4 way. Such a perfect lil song.

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:41 am
by scrambledgreggs
yeah WGB is a sleeper hit for me as well, I was not expecting much from it but now it's the one I find myself singing in my head when I'm not listening to the album. love all of Panda's little yelps swirling around the chorus

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:05 am
by rohcti
Yeah and the last minute makes it a top tier song for me. So good

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:23 am
by coral lord
Cherokee went from a tier 2 hype track to an absolute S tier among the great tracks for me. The stoop part just hits way harder for me in the studio version.

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:35 am
by Calamity Pete
howsoever wrote:
Fovrodi wrote:
I love Spiderman 3

That’s right.

Also this part of the Billboard interview Panda did is so funny. If anything just for the last line:
wrote:
I know it’s not your song, but do you know why Prester John, an apocryphal Christian king from centuries ago, inspired this song?

I don’t. Seems like you’d expect a band to be talking about what the song means but we’re pretty guarded about that. I don’t know for what reason. Occasionally one of us will be like, “that’s a cool lyric, what were you thinking there?” I guess we’re trying to be respectful of each other. I don’t know what his Prester John thing is to be honest.


I never know what that guy is talking about hehe.

I honestly didn't think We Go Back was gonna grow on me as much as it has, but it is a much more nuanced track than I thought. Still maybe my least favorite on the album but the drumming is amazing. I do wish the vocals, on this and a couple other tracks, were a tiny bit higher in the mix. Like Avey's part on Car Keys. Just a little bit higher. OOoh the mixing though :milhouse: oohh

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:48 am
by popadam
i still don’t like we go back. been desperately trying to get into it tho cause its the only track im not in love with. even walker has really grown on me… “we’ll see you there” is now one of my fav moments on the record

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:03 am
by Stories and Games
i'm giving myself the assignment of making an axeworld-style two hour megamix of everything that comes out of this era of AC music once it's all finally out there; music box, time skiffs, whatever followup record/eps/singles, i really want there to be a way to experience the energy of this era as a totally melded continuous thing

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:05 am
by rampface
THANK YOU PASSER-BY

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:21 am
by BORCHENKO??
DownthereSwampthing wrote:
I made a playlist that breaks up the Skiffs songs and slices in other music from the AC discography. Some of the transitions work really well, like Car Keys into Applesauce or Walker into Throwin' The Round Ball. Hearing the old and new played side by side does something special for me. It's like having the band's whole journey compressed into this wibbly wobbly, timey wimey thing. Maybe you'll appreciate it also.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6jisN ... eeeb254c86

Really digging this! The transition from Cuckoo Cuckoo > We Go Back is pretty great haha

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:27 am
by Cooper
Hey friends

I fucking love this album

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:29 am
by roopn
Dallou wrote:
If I buy the album on bandcamp, do the band get the money or does it go to domino ?

afaik domino still gets a cut. they're in control of the bandcamp page, with the exception (I think) of music box, 2 nights, the silver jews cover, and the painting with shows.

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:36 am
by roopn
I'm finally finally listening to this thing.
Spoiler: show
Domino stingey with their downloads for some reason - got downloads for the singles for preordering the LP but have to wait for the record to show up to use the dl card for the rest of the songs?? bullshit. anyway I'm streaming on bandcamp now lol
Dragon slayer was quite a disorienting start actually. keen to start back around to hear that again
Car keys was very surprising but loved the outro.
up to cherokee now <3

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:36 am
by DownthereSwampthing
BORCHENKO?? wrote:
DownthereSwampthing wrote:
I made a playlist that breaks up the Skiffs songs and slices in other music from the AC discography. Some of the transitions work really well, like Car Keys into Applesauce or Walker into Throwin' The Round Ball. Hearing the old and new played side by side does something special for me. It's like having the band's whole journey compressed into this wibbly wobbly, timey wimey thing. Maybe you'll appreciate it also.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6jisN ... eeeb254c86

Really digging this! The transition from Cuckoo Cuckoo > We Go Back is pretty great haha

Blushing... :oops:

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:42 am
by tdegenaro
anybody who bought the vinyl from domino did you get a download code in the order or the email? not a slip in the lps i mean

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:43 am
by tdegenaro
roopn wrote:
Dallou wrote:
If I buy the album on bandcamp, do the band get the money or does it go to domino ?

afaik domino still gets a cut. they're in control of the bandcamp page, with the exception (I think) of music box, 2 nights, the silver jews cover, and the painting with shows.

this is probably true but on fridays (so today for two more hours on the beast coast) bandcamp waives their so the bouys would be getting more $$$$

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:50 am
by Emerson 
im high and what is this?

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:54 am
by Emerson 
nickinko wrote:
~ Cherokee - as other posters have noted, the drum step-up at 3.25 is a smiler, but then the real genius of the pause before the chorus straight afterwards and that reverby vocal/synth chorus. Well, it's quite something. That middle section is just sensational though, and moments like that are the reason this album will be in the top 3 on a lot of future top 10 AC Releases lists.

what is cherokee about? is it really something? or?

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:56 am
by AmadeooedamA
ok this time I heard it in the dark with eyes closed. and wow.. I picked up so many things i didnt hear before ( I wasnt in the best mood and wasn't focusing too much on my first listen). Every song has something to offer and I like Royal and Desire even more. Was an 8 but now I feel like this album is a 9. Strung with everything is no longer my favourite of the album, I love it but, it feels like its from a different album (lol) I'd say either Cherokee, We Go Back or Royal and Desire

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:57 am
by meys
tdegenaro wrote:
anybody who bought the vinyl from domino did you get a download code in the order or the email? not a slip in the lps i mean

nothing. when i access my order status i can download the singles but not the record

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:58 am
by 'Worms'
tdegenaro wrote:
anybody who bought the vinyl from domino did you get a download code in the order or the email? not a slip in the lps i mean

I think the download attached to the order itself is only for the singles and they want you to use the code from the card for the full album—I think in the past they'd usually let you download the full album from the order page though(?); I guess bandcamp purchasers still have that advantage fwiw

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 2:59 am
by tdegenaro
'Worms' wrote:
tdegenaro wrote:
anybody who bought the vinyl from domino did you get a download code in the order or the email? not a slip in the lps i mean

I think the download attached to the order itself is only for the singles and they want you to use the code from the card for the full album—I think in the past they'd usually let you download the full album from the order page though(?); I guess bandcamp purchasers still have that advantage fwiw

that's exactly right and to their credit i'd almost always give away the slip from the lp cuz i would have already done the download, so i guess good on dominio for tightening up their shit lol