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Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:33 pm
by TetsuoUnderFire
Tropic wrote:
TetsuoUnderFire wrote:
AND THEN THIS MORNING WHEN I WAKE UP A POTENTIAL COPY OF GODSPEED'S ALL LIGHTS FUCKED ON THE HAIRY AMP DROOLING WAS POSTED ONLINE?

Say what?

Check PM's. The holy grail of underground music may have been freebirded. Who knows. Apparently some college radio station back in the mid 2000's played a version of it that has some of the same songs but anyway don't wanna go off topic here. We can discuss in the PM!

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:53 pm
by Dudders
5/10 "slayer", 10/10 "soul star"

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:01 pm
by Jam
Nevermind my post lol

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:14 pm
by scummy
just wanted to say in Cherokee during random parts of the verses there's what sounds like someone (i kinda assume it's Josh, because it sounds like it comes from the same place as his "i know I'm gonna find it") that's going "ts ts ts" or "tchk tchk tchk" in time with the hi-hat taps that i really love. reminds me of the thing Dave would do in Reverend Green

edit: also i keep getting caught offguard by the sound at 6:03

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:27 pm
by opposite field
Nothing more I want now than for them for play mostly TS2 or actual new songs in March after this B N M

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:29 pm
by muark
Fucken hell I need an Aus tour at this point. I need to hear these tracks live
:negative: :negative: :negative:

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:48 pm
by AmadeooedamA
frikin finally download is ready! jeez. Ready for Cherokee

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:08 pm
by Lacrimosa
Royal and Desire wrote:
Lacrimosa wrote:
they literally chose the weakest songs to be the singles lmao.

Now now that's just not true, Strung With Everything is amazing and Walker needs to be appreciated more

I think Prester John is fine too, it needs more re-visitation in album context

I'm sorry I was wrong. I had a long walk listening to the official FULL HQ VERSION and SWE and PJ clicked completely, and I got a new appreciation (ha!) for Walker. Only "weak" spot left is WGB and I even kinda like that little fella. After today I'm even more in love with this album. I said it's not yet but "damn close" to top tier AC but it's starting to feel like it more and more :oops:

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:15 pm
by Lacrimosa
I freaking LOVE all the intros/outros/transitions on this album.

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:26 pm
by Me Tiger
scummy wrote:
just wanted to say in Cherokee during random parts of the verses there's what sounds like someone (i kinda assume it's Josh, because it sounds like it comes from the same place as his "i know I'm gonna find it") that's going "ts ts ts" or "tchk tchk tchk" in time with the hi-hat taps that i really love.

yeah I also think it’s him :lol:

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:34 pm
by jfw7
jfw7 wrote:
i was just tagging the blast session and noticed that mid-century hawaiian music songwriter + bandleader Harry Owens is credited as a composer on Cherokee on my apple music "preorder'. can anyone think of whether that's more likely to be a sample or a melody/lyrical interpolation?

i'd forgotten about this. it's the sample in the middle, isn't it? i can't figure out what song it is, but harry owens wrote a ton of stuff, including "to you sweetheart, aloha" which gets sampled (and another writing credit) on Lunch Out of Order (sounds like this Sol Ho'opi'i performance? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gQTt9HZe2A)

is that the same song sampled in Cherokee? sorry if i missed discussion on this earlier—searched but couldn't come with anything definitive

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:56 pm
by Andrew_VB
dio wrote:
wait its Burrito boy!??!?! What the heck. He must have felt guilty about creating that meme or something.

lol idk he still included "an animal corrective" this time

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:01 pm
by mildew_on_rice
I hate pitchfork but I'm proud of the boys for being back on It Is OK. They always deserve it, but it's good to see some others give em some RESPEKT

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:09 pm
by evan6032
As I’m listening to this more I get the feeling of a sunrise on the beach after a troubled night from
Dragon slayer and a sense of peace of a reflective morning walk through the woods from
Royal

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:12 pm
by TetsuoUnderFire
mildew_on_rice wrote:
I hate pitchfork but I'm proud of the boys for being back on It Is OK. They always deserve it, but it's good to see some others give em some RESPEKT


Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:27 pm
by r_o_s_s
PITCHFORK INTERVIEW

How Spiders, Telepathy, and Broadcast Singer Trish Keenan Inspired Animal Collective’s New Album

https://pitchfork.com/features/moodboar ... interview/

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:28 pm
by r_o_s_s
Noah being scared of "Spiders and witchy old women and pig men" is phenomenal insight

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:30 pm
by jerry wonder
honestly without Pitchfork AC would not be nearly as popular as they are--i am so surprised by the score they gave and delighted at this AC renaissance. I felt it so hard at their performance at Pfork a few months ago. Tbh I am still warming up to these songs, but psyched to see them twice on the upcoming tour and go further down the rabbit hole.

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:39 pm
by dio
r_o_s_s wrote:
PITCHFORK INTERVIEW

How Spiders, Telepathy, and Broadcast Singer Trish Keenan Inspired Animal Collective’s New Album

https://pitchfork.com/features/moodboar ... interview/

sick interview.

Good humor, deep cuts, good stories. Love that they're just fully confirming that they have mind-link telepathy with each other

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:42 pm
by roopn
r_o_s_s wrote:
Noah being scared of "Spiders and witchy old women and pig men" is phenomenal insight

Explains that pic he tweeted after his madrid set last year

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:50 pm
by ingenue
Absolutely floored by this record. Something ineffable and alchemical about it. These dudes are magicians. My real-time sketches as I basked in it (and a couple whiskys) last night for the first time:

Dragon Slayer — Sunup, down the stairs, slide on down a psychedelic staircase, California raisins, boys choir backing the astral Beatles, Christmas punch, run through a flock of seagulls and it explodes.

Car Keys — Guy stealing trash, some video game, somewhere in Mexico, “how’re we doing now?” Just fine ol’ sport, go to church, go to the bar, go to the gutter, gals stepping over you on their way home from an overpriced sushi dinner.

Prester John — Blistering, pus oozing, smiling the whole time, like an old friend has dropped-in. Whisky kicking-in, tide going out, PJ breaking down, blood pressure going up. Like hearing it for the first time. Crystalline, weird, squirming. Decline and fall of the West into Constantinople, gyros and Tarkovsky. Rublev and the holy fool. Sun going down, no one gets the girl.

Strung With Everything — Vestiges of “Daffy” at the outset, Christ in the wilderness, vagabond drums into Noah’s stomp, digital farts, let’s fucking go! And we’re off. “Get dirty.” Will do. Done. Another whisky, another smile, school’s out, Marfa, giddyup, Corinthians, Evangelicals, something about the sun, AC does Arcade Fire, Avey does black spiritual, Geo ripping the fabric of space-time, Ole Miss.

Walker — Ah, sheeyit. Caribbean junkyard. We’re underwater now, folks. Or on the moon. Ending gets caught in a trawler’s net. Dead fishy singing to his pals, lost at sea.

Cherokee — Oil rainbow in a puddle, Angelo Badalamenti falls into a computer, you’ve got mail, parade toms into Christmas blues, smile into mooshy confusion back into smile, 11, 19, Gregorian Renaissance coda for the ages.

Passer-by — Quicksand, swamp thing, Silk Road bazaar, whisky digging-in now, more suns, suns going down, flesh into ones and zeros, ultramarine, “always passing.”

We Go Back — I’m in a tent, two-headed boys, pinstripes, ringmasters, Halloween, eck-eck-eck-YEAH, more suns, striptease, corsets, Dave’s drunk like me, he goes back to play it again, just like me!

Royal & Desire — Creaky dock, don’t look down, first crocus, first buttercup, old man winter losing his grip, time turning inside out, birds taking flight, sunnuvagun, sundown.

Too-soon, totally-unnecessary-but-it’s-human-nature-to-list-things rankings:

Dragon Slayer
Prester John
We Go Back
Passer-by
Strung With Everything
Royal & Desire
Walker
Cherokee
Car Keys

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:58 pm
by unrecordednight
domino really had 4 opportunities to pick cherokee, passerby, or royal as singles out of 9 songs and struck out 4 times lol

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:01 pm
by Hellomark
Great interview, love the insight about Spider bit my lady being metaphor for the "poisoning of America"

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:02 pm
by dio
wrote:
domino really had 4 opportunities to pick cherokee, passerby, or royal as singles out of 9 songs and struck out 4 times lol

I honestly think their picks make pretty good sense. I was super set on DS or Cherokee, but glad they didnt spoil opener and also glad Cherokee was like a treat that we had to wait for.

Cherokee seems like it could for sure be a single but eh, the ones they picked are also incredible and maybe more immediately catchy to normies or sumn, idk.

I think Prester John as first pick is their best choice tho. Super good and unique way to intro the album. Songs not super indicative of the album (maybe none are? the albums got so much variety) but I think it was such a good way to introduce them back into the wild

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:02 pm
by dio
Hellomark wrote:
Great interview, love the insight about Spider bit my lady being metaphor for the "poisoning of America"

I like this too. Never woulda guessed.

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:04 pm
by unrecordednight
dio wrote:
wrote:
domino really had 4 opportunities to pick cherokee, passerby, or royal as singles out of 9 songs and struck out 4 times lol

I honestly think their picks make pretty good sense. I was super set on DS or Cherokee, but glad they didnt spoil opener and also glad Cherokee was like a treat that we had to wait for.

Cherokee seems like it could for sure be a single but eh, the ones they picked are also incredible and maybe more immediately catchy to normies or sumn, idk.

I think Prester John as first pick is their best choice tho. Super good and unique way to intro the album. Songs not super indicative of the album (maybe none are? the albums got so much variety) but I think it was such a good way to introduce them back into the wild

all true, i think prester and strung are pretty solid choices, i wouldn't have picked walker or we go back though personally, though i like we go back

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:05 pm
by unrecordednight
dio wrote:
unrecordednight wrote:
back in the day i spent so long trying to wrack my brain to decipher these particular lyrics from royal, and finally seeing them now i'm just like damn, no wonder i never got em lol:

"Now I’m washed in Bywater rain
These water oaks and the train"

"Or think you feign insane for sane’s sake"

the royal lyrics are just so good too damn, there's a certain meditative, introspective quality that is exactly what i love about sleep cycle, feels like a continuation of that. here's some my interpretation of this short passage from royal which you can extrapolate to the overall theme of the song:

And what’s this lie that you place before the birth of your world?
(why do you idealize time periods from before you were born? there were problems then too)
Just try living now, now now, now
(just appreciate the time you were born and live in the present moment)
Decide I’m one and I sing
(decide i'm one with the universe/present moment and rejoice in that, put good back out into the world)
Inside I’m still as I move, now forget all that down, down, down, down
(i meditate and become inwardly quiet as i move through this hectic life, forgetting the "down down" spiral of things getting worse)


Just FYI the "Bywater" is an area in New Orleans, and I don't know for sure but I assume that Royal and Desire crossroads are in/near it. Its also basically where the Music Box Village is. He must really love that zone. Its like west of the French Quarter (I actually never knew cardinal directions the years I lived there, its past the French quarter at least, kinda a hipster-y zone.

interesting! knew the royal & desire thing but not about bywater, very cool. so between that and the title it really sounds like royal was indeed written for/directly before those MBV shows

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:05 pm
by dervish
rohcti wrote:
Slippi's Applesauce wrote:
dervish wrote:
I avoided all 4 singles and every boot (minus the music box ones from way back)

Almost made it to Friday but Domino is gonna Domino. My body is ready - see y'all on the other side...

omg im so interested in what u think and excited for u

Yeah please write up your impressions


Ok, yea, so I went into this about as cold as I possibly could. I avoided all 4 singles like the rona. I listened to the Music Box shows when they first surfaced for a little while and I did watch the Pitchfork show that they had broadcast 1 time, and that was pretty much it for exposure to these songs (along with reading CA periodically)

Their production has always been full of interesting choices – solo and AC group stuff. MPP was probably their best sounding group effort to me. ST and Feels are nice. I guess Id have to say Buoys has my fav sound from their stuff up until this. Overall, this is their best sounding record without even a question for me. CHz was just a touch overstuffed for my liking. PW was pretty deece I guess but the album itself was just far too samey for me. I will say that I absolutely LOVE Bridge to Quiet. To me, it was the best thing they had done since FBK as a group. It just needed a touch more Panda to be perfect. But it did have me crazy excited for this new album.

DRAGON SLAYER — Doesn’t really seem like an opener (yet?) and it is certainly an odd choice timing-wise the way it just jumps in immediately. This album has several minutes of intros and added outros so it is weird to just jump in. Song is pretty cool though. The main melody certainly compliments Car Keys. I almost feel like they could have really worked on a cool transition for this into CK and made it their Scarlet>Fire. This certainly feels like a grower of a song if I already wish the intro was longer.

CAR KEYS — Dig this one immediately. I recognized that synth melody trade off thingy from the Pitchfork broadcast. Bouncy Panda track that sounds super lush. The tempo feels wonky in a cool way. I cant tell if it is a touch slow or a touch fast but it is a little slightly off somehow but in a good way. I don’t hear any lyrical connection to Dragon Slayer but it is certainly cut from the same musical cloth or jam.

PRESTER JOHN — Wow, this is AC in full jam mode and its exquisite. Absolutely gorgeous and patient into and build and once that bass, guitar and kick/snare pattern lock into place, it is lush as fuck. The vocals are ethereal and this just goes. Absolutely love the bass tone in the 2nd half. The little thing at the end feels a little tacked on but certainly doesn’t spoil the mood. With the extra 1.5 minutes here and the 1.5 minute intro to Strung, it feels like they could have at least used 10 or 15 seconds from those 3 minutes and had a little intro for Dragon Slayer (if I want to nitpick)

STRUNG WITH EVERYTHING — Dig the clattery intro and the beginning beat is reminiscent of a Banshee Beat Vibe or something. Totally feels like a wild carnival or medieval fair or something. Part of me thinks the is like AC paint by numbers – it has all the pieces of their early formula but it does feel modern. The start/stop thing at the end especially. If there was a Broadway show about Animal Collective – that is what it would sound like. It certainly seems like it will be a live powerhouse and fan favorite live. It is a cool song for sure. I can’t help but think if this should have opened the album. I think it could have but it’s placement here is really nice as well.

WALKER — Definitely a little cool down after the past 14 minutes or so. Seems like a pretty standard Panda song. Almost feels like the Rosie Oh of the record. Dig it for sure. Super lush production on this makes it almost better than it is – but it is really sweet. Another sort of tacked on bit at the end. I quite like it but keeps making me question the decision of jumping right into Dragon Slayer. Why am I so fixated on that lol

CHEROKEE — Damn, this one is lush as all get out. 10/10 stuff here. The first few times the super quirky lyrics about roofies, m&m’s and Tom Hanks took me out of it but they grew rather endearing quite quickly. Avey definitely likes his car trips. The build in the middle of this and the repeating chorus is like a cathedral of sound at times. Just wonderfully executed. Patient, clear and lush. I keep using that word but damn if there is a better word for the sound of this, I would like to know it. Wowwed from the first listen to this and it just keeps getting better. Absolutely lovely stuff.

PASSER-BY — Wasn’t sure how they could place something to follow that up but damn, did they do it perfectly. Immediate highlight of the album for me. That closing repeating chorus is so syrupy and sweet and lush and warm and cozy. Absolutely love this one, it’s placement, and of course – its production.

WE GO BACK — Man, the beginning of this was driving me crazy – like where the hell have I heard that melody? It took me a few listens – until I finally placed it – it is a damn clock! Like a grandfather clock. My parents had one in their house when zI was growing up and every hour – bing bong booong bong… damn. And then the lyics about timeand obviously the album title. Super clever use of that little deeply embedded melody. The song itself sounds like a super mature Painting With one. Lovely placement as well.

ROYAL & DESIRE — Uuuuuuummmmm, lush? Majestic? Transcendent? A very different closer for them. Really fitting. I have to be completely honest – that sax really rides the very edge of being horrifically cheesy and new-agey but I am giving it a chance. It doesn’t really need it imo. But the song is really pretty and the perfect closer to this album. No question about that.

Overall I could not be happier or more impressed with this record. It is extremely cohesive, fresh and unquestionably AC. Every member clearly stepped up and brought their A game to this one. I was very nervous when I had read that they were recording this remotely. I think it made them really question every addition each member was making. And it worked out for the best. It is by far the cleanest and clearest record they have ever made. No noise for the sake of it. Just gorgeous. The 5th member of this album is the production. A+++ LUSH SKIFFS

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:06 pm
by Lacrimosa
r_o_s_s wrote:
PITCHFORK INTERVIEW

How Spiders, Telepathy, and Broadcast Singer Trish Keenan Inspired Animal Collective’s New Album

https://pitchfork.com/features/moodboar ... interview/

wonderful interview.

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:08 pm
by opposite field
I don't hear any sax in R&D are my ears broken

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:25 pm
by awesome
they’re doing an AMA on feb 16

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:29 pm
by jerry wonder
dervish wrote:
rohcti wrote:
Slippi's Applesauce wrote:
dervish wrote:
ROYAL & DESIRE — Uuuuuuummmmm, lush? Majestic? Transcendent? A very different closer for them. Really fitting. I have to be completely honest – that sax really rides the very edge of being horrifically cheesy and new-agey but I am giving it a chance. It doesn’t really need it imo. But the song is really pretty and the perfect closer to this album. No question about that.





Lol what saxophone are ppl talking about, i do not hear any sax....

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:32 pm
by WinterCityWalks
Thats avey singing

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:32 pm
by memememe
my vinyl from Domino has been stuck at "Pre-Shipment Info Sent to USPS, USPS Awaiting Item" since Monday :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:33 pm
by Slippi's Applesauce
opposite field wrote:
I don't hear any sax in R&D are my ears broken

same, i have no idea what people are talking about. can i get a time stamp pls

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:33 pm
by jerry wonder
that is avey's voice with autotune

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:34 pm
by opposite field
That's what I thought, I can hear how it is kind of horn inspired but it doesn't sound like an actual sax to me. I spent my whole first listen expecting like big traditional saxophone solo or something like Deerhutner's "Coronado" and then realized how bizarre that would be in an AC song

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:54 pm
by dervish
What? That isn't a sax at 3:36 and 4:10???

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:55 pm
by JMC08
more like......ANIMAL CORRECTIVE....amirite????

Re: Time Skiffs

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:57 pm
by unrecordednight
that's avey's autotuned voice. there is sax in the song tho i think! 2:37-2:43 for example