Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:08 am
by roopn
FEEL ON1NE!!! wrote:
Getting mixed up in the pot among the vapors.
littest lyric by noah on the album maybe. broke chorus is insane. kinda wish the 2nd verse changed it up a little more but what a sublime track.
FEEL ON1NE!!! wrote:
I think this album is among what everyone considers their best. To say that is to concede that their last three are lesser which sucks, but my main canon of 2000s AC albums were Sung tongs to Jam, and this album easily fits in. Glad to be experiencing this music with you all, because stuff like Magicians from baltimore and defeat is stuff that sick with us for around 25 years haha. See you then
bless
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:14 am
by hedgecore
From Russel Elevado -
Get the new @anmlcollective album “isn’t it now” on vinyl, that I produced and mixed. I did a comparison between streaming from Tidal hi-res and vinyl and there is no comparison. I wasn’t surprised at all but I haven’t done a back to back comparison in a long time. It’s a different experience and closest to what I heard in the studio. CD is much better than streaming but who has a CD player anymore. Streaming is much better these days and can even sound great…until you compare it to the vinyl version or CD. Just my 2 cents
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:39 am
by headroom)))
Just a frightened mother
Looking for her daughter
Justice, justice wanders
Looking for some shelter
Man, these lyrics are hitting hella hard with whats going in in Gaza right now. My heart is so heavy seeing the images of war. Peace to all Palestinian people suffering and Jewish people who wish to live their lives non-violently. I don't want to turn this thread into a pit of political arguments, its just what's emotionally resonating with the lyrics right now.
Once again, Avey's lyrics are gems.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:00 pm
by Night Park
^^amen. That lyric from Defeat came to mind for me as well. Dark times
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:05 pm
by jordanrandall
Interviews with Geologist and Deakin that Greg and I recorded last week!
Think the Nic Cage-related project Geo couldn’t talk about is the forthcoming Butcher’s Crossing? Going to be hard for the movie to live up to the book, but an AC soundtrack would’ve helped.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:27 pm
by Alcohol
mildew_on_rice wrote:
Here’s my morning described with lyrics written in Panda Bear style
Walkin in the cold
Boot was on the foot
Dog he strolled on my line
Shit bag got ripped
On a zipper pocket
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:29 pm
by Allatrobles
After spending a long time with the album, taking my time with each song, this is one of my favorites now. Even if I'm not totally into a song, I love to just listen to how it sounds. The production on every one is beautiful.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:49 pm
by dio
[quote="hedgecore"]From Russel Elevado -
Get the new @anmlcollective album “isn’t it now” on vinyl, that I produced and mixed. I did a comparison between streaming from Tidal hi-res and vinyl and there is no comparison. I wasn’t surprised at all but I haven’t done a back to back comparison in a long time. It’s a different experience and closest to what I heard in the studio. CD is much better than streaming but who has a CD player anymore. Streaming is much better these days and can even sound great…until you compare it to the vinyl version or CD. Just my 2 cents
I did notice the CD seemed considerably different than the mp3s (in my car). Just way more clear and vibrant. Lil bit of placebo there maybe but ya sometimes I don't think I really notice a difference
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:56 pm
by hedgecore
I haven't heard it with my own ears but it's not a placebo. Streaming is going to have (data/lossy) compression applied to it, CD version is probably the same master but without any compression. Going off of Russel Elevado's post, the vinyl has it's own master unique to the medium (and this version sounds the closest to what the band had in mind when mixing)
I wish I could justify spending money on the vinyl version/was in a reckless headspace but i'm not there right now unfortunately. Would be sweet to have it
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:59 pm
by PolarBear
For me personally, the album sounds completely different on vinyl
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:19 pm
by Alcohol
Buy a shit car and run your mp3s or FLACs thru a cassette adapter for some vintage analog vibes. Works for me.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:24 pm
by hedgecore
PolarBear wrote:
For me personally, the album sounds completely different on vinyl
I believe it. I was pretty blown away by the sound of the Person Pitch records. it sounded like a different mix
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:41 am
by Me Tiger
The thing is that first mp3 version, the freebird we all listened to, wasn’t good in the first place. So if you compare original CD to that, CD sounds considerably better. But if you find a proper mp3 version of the original release or make it yourself from the original source it won’t be that different. I remember Centipede Hz freebird was of the same low quality as well.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:51 am
by Me Tiger
I kind of like how imperfect some things on the album are, it’s not overproduced. Gem & I to me sounds almost like a demo. It’s like you record something yourself and then enjoy that specific version that captures a specific moment in time. First you may want to make it better, to get rid of some imperfections. But after a while you love it as it is.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:18 pm
by tdegenaro
can someone just lie and say the cd sounds the same as the vinyl - i just cleared out the record shelf i can't go back down that road LOL
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:46 pm
by hedgecore
tdegenaro wrote:
can someone just lie and say the cd sounds the same as the vinyl - i just cleared out the record shelf i can't go back down that road LOL
Dude, I already got you. don't worry
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:37 pm
by Ethmin
apellira wrote:
HATE this
but I'm listening to it
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:59 pm
by foxtrot
this is turning my insides to green mush.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:44 am
by destiny
EM
TEED A BAAAR
... IN BALTIMORE
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:05 am
by coral lord
-30 seconds is pretty good right?
yeah
-thanks
thanks
-thanks
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:41 am
by Me Tiger
Russell Elevado says there’s no vocal tuning at all on the record.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:40 pm
by Me Tiger
I had a dream last night where I listened to the album on vinyl for the first time. Vocals on Gem sounded totally different. It didn’t sound like Panda or Avey or Deakin at all. So I was sure it was Geo.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:13 am
by Stories and Games
no vocal pitch correction checks out, all the vocals sound extremely live and real in a way i don't think they ever really have on an ac record since like, pre tongs
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:48 am
by foxtrot
Which I think is a large part of the reason people are connecting with it so much
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 5:20 am
by rohcti
BZ is so damn good. Been top tier since first listen. I feel like the drumming on this record adds a lot of replay value to the songs in general, but they really pop on this song. It has such a unique feeling among AC songs imo
I also love Avey enunciating everything as clearly as possible on the chorus lol
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:16 pm
by soothsailor
played the whole thing again over a couple of car rides yesterday. still solid. maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but i feel like geo's hurdy-gurdy was done so much more tastefully on here than time skiffs. it sounds really transportive in a way it didn't there. maybe it was just mixed better, i dunno. either way, i thought i was sick of hearing it before iin dropped, but despite geo using it in most of the tracks, it doesn't overstay its welcome too much
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:40 pm
by Dusty
soothsailor wrote:
played the whole thing again over a couple of car rides yesterday. still solid. maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but i feel like geo's hurdy-gurdy was done so much more tastefully on here than time skiffs. it sounds really transportive in a way it didn't there. maybe it was just mixed better, i dunno. either way, i thought i was sick of hearing it before iin dropped, but despite geo using it in most of the tracks, it doesn't overstay its welcome too much
Couldn’t agree more, on time skiffs it feels very shoehorned in especially on Prester and Walker, whereas I couldn’t imagine songs like Defeat or Genie’s without it. It even ended up sounding pretty damn good on Broke Zodiac when it was always my least favorite part of the live performances
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:16 pm
by blindmowing
agreed with both above. hurdy on IIN? is incredible, whereas i think adding hurdy to a song like Walker was a mistake -- changed the personality of that song a lot, especially in conjunction with how they cut the melody of the percussive keys in half, which is probably my biggest demoitis on that album.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:58 am
by Me Tiger
mashup idea for gem&i
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:45 pm
by leaf_dwelling
all these interviews are really great. loving all this insider baseball after the album release. has anyone asked about the release of soundboards from the TS/IIN tour? fingers crossed!
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:19 pm
by Alcohol
Found “Defeat” a spiritual sister in the song “Ominous Cloud” from Broadcast’s Haha Sound. You’ll see what I mean starting around the 1:02 mark.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:55 pm
by andthephantom
I was definitely baffled by ATCAB on my first dozen listens. But I'm starting to find it to be a spiritual cousin of the middle section of Defeat. Outta left field; a bit over the top; playful. Likewise, the twinkly riffs in Stride have started evoking some of Geo's soundscapes in part three of Defeat. So those two tracks, which I'd been having a hard time incorporating into my experience of the album as a whole, are starting to click a lot more. And . . . this just accentuates, for me, how much Defeat kinda unites everything else.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:02 pm
by Tropic
Still find Stride to be a bit of an outlier. Great song but it really does just feel like a Deakin song shoved onto the album. Really think it could've done with Panda harmonies instead. Only song on the album with one vocalist...