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Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:56 pm
by Slippi's Applesauce
memememe wrote:
Artwork – Dave Portner
Bassoon – Sara Schoenbeck (tracks: A2)
Cello – Leila Bordreuil (tracks: C)
Choir – The Murmurations (tracks: D1)
Design – Rob Carmichael (2)
Mastered By – Heba Kadry
Mixed By [Assisted By] – Alex Conroy, Nolan Thies, Todd Carder
Producer – Animal Collective, Russell Elevado
Recorded By, Mixed By – Russell Elevado
Tenor Saxophone – Ben Chapoteau-Katz (tracks: C)
Typography [Hand-Written Lyrics By] – Josh Dibb
Violin – Samara Lubelski (tracks: C)
Written-By – Animal Collective

So cool thanks for sharing! Where'd you find this? Didn't realize that the bassoon sounding part was something they recorded and not just a sample. I know we got a personnel list for Time Skiffs about everything that the 4 dudes did, wonder if we'll get more info again like we did there and for defeat

and russell did mix it, he just had some assistants ig

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:05 pm
by hedgecore
Slippi's Applesauce wrote:
and russell did mix it, he just had some assistants ig

Doyyy. good call

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:55 pm
by Slippi's Applesauce
awesome wrote:
the guy whose tweet i posted at the top of the page works at/contributes to pitchfork and said in his next tweet that IIN? is "easily their best since mpp" if that's worth anything/tea leaves

not sure he'll be reviewing it for p4k tho

Is this it?

https://toneglow.substack.com/p/tone-gl ... le&r=3478a

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:58 pm
by awesome
Slippi's Applesauce wrote:
awesome wrote:
the guy whose tweet i posted at the top of the page works at/contributes to pitchfork and said in his next tweet that IIN? is "easily their best since mpp" if that's worth anything/tea leaves

not sure he'll be reviewing it for p4k tho

Is this it?

https://toneglow.substack.com/p/tone-gl ... le&r=3478a

looks like the interview yeah! first one for this album i think? lol

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:46 am
by PolarBear
Please for the love of God can someone here please buy me a Geologist cassette and I will send you money!!!

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:55 am
by paralleoneirdwell
A truly fantastic interview, thank you for finding and posting it!!

plentiful humors, psychological insights, many unique passages about the natures of the band, and just a really unique flow to the conversation!!

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:57 am
by tulis
Noah Lennox wrote:
First impressions with music are super powerful. And that’s where the whole demo-itis thing comes from, right? There’s a lot of times when fans of a band, especially a band like ours where we’ll play stuff live before we record, are disappointed by studio versions. I just think that first impressions are really sticky in a way where it’s hard to match the power of the first go-around.

...

Also, at least in our case, there are a ton of people taping shows and even the recording of a show can be the definitive version of a song for them forever. And it’s cool, I don’t mind. I feel like the recorded version is always sort of what we’re aiming at the whole time, but somebody else having a different perspective on it is only a positive thing. I like the idea that a song is never done, that it’s always growing into something else. That means it has all these snapshots all along the way during its lifespan, and different snapshots resonate with different people. It’s sort of like how with skate videos, the things get fused. I imagine people’s experience with a song fuses with what’s going on with their life at the time, the relationships they’re having and all that. It gets tied together in a way that’s really lasting and powerful.


Love this

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 2:00 am
by floats
From the interview: “…you see how certain guys quit, and there are people who get upset at each other. All of that is really fascinating to me.”

See I told you guys Panda wants to quit and is upset with everyone in the band!

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 2:04 am
by floats
tulis wrote:
Love this

I’ve been thinking about this a lot recently with how listening to all the 2018 boots significantly impacted this whole 5 year era for me. Especially trying to decide if i should listen to the new Avey boots, but Noah just gave me all the validation I need lmao

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 2:42 am
by andthephantom
Not sure why. But I’m called to avoid all their solo boots and to way over listen to their full band boots.

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 3:29 am
by foxtrot
Yeh I’m kinda the same. Have never really gotten into solo boots. But band boots always get an absolute whipping from me.

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 4:15 am
by Stories and Games
think we'll be seeing a number of reviews that read a point more positively than the score attached to them, which is to be expected with indie rock veterans putting out solid albums in the 2020s. i find it useful to take these reviews as saying "this album is great for what it is" without actually saying the "...for what it is" part out loud. i think that part gets left out partially because that sort of contextual relevance/vitality based criticism can be genuinely difficult to articulate properly, but i chalk it up mostly to the general trend towards niceness in music criticism lately

i'll say that unless pitchfork or fandango either totally trash IIN out of nowhere or declare it a modern masterpiece, it truly doesn't matter what sort of reviews the record gets; AC's cultural stock is pretty impossible to budge one way or the other at this point. the diehards are the target audience and that's okay

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:41 pm
by awesome

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:45 pm
by speen
That pb interview is really good. Fun to read. makes me wish they did any kind of promo interviews or whatever for this album lol

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 2:04 pm
by soothsailor
So Strawberry Jam is not just Avey's but several bandmembers' least favorite album... How scandalous considering it's viewed as one of their all-time best now

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 2:08 pm
by awesome
not too uncommon that a volatile environment has resulted in a great record

tho it’s prob more common that it’s resulted in a bad record

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 3:39 pm
by jerry wonder
lol how is P4k going to handle oneohtrix, wilco, and animal collective all coming out on the same day? My guess is Wilco gets top bill as it seems their new album might actually be good, and then either AC or oneohtrix get their review on Saturday, and whoever loses out gets Monday? Maybe best album wins Friday? I hope its IIN

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 4:13 pm
by coral lord
foxtrot wrote:
Yeh I’m kinda the same. Have never really gotten into solo boots. But band boots always get an absolute whipping from me.

Usually I’m with you but Avey at the Mothlight is one of my most played boots ever.

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:29 pm
by memememe
jerry wonder wrote:
lol how is P4k going to handle oneohtrix, wilco, and animal collective all coming out on the same day? My guess is Wilco gets top bill as it seems their new album might actually be good, and then either AC or oneohtrix get their review on Saturday, and whoever loses out gets Monday? Maybe best album wins Friday? I hope its IIN

no. it'll be Slow Pulp.

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:53 pm
by Slippi's Applesauce

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 9:13 pm
by unrecordednight
coral lord wrote:
foxtrot wrote:
Yeh I’m kinda the same. Have never really gotten into solo boots. But band boots always get an absolute whipping from me.

Usually I’m with you but Avey at the Mothlight is one of my most played boots ever.

yeah the distinction for me is if it's a solo set of almost entirely new material with just a couple old songs i'll def be listening to that a lot, but if it's a set with only 1-3 new songs i'll hold off (eg mothlight and ATP and tomboy boots were all too good to pass up, but haven't listened to the newest avey tracks from the 7s tour)

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 9:16 pm
by scrambledgreggs
I honestly had no idea Avey was even playing new post-7s tracks on this tour so thanks for that!

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 9:43 pm
by mildew_on_rice
that interview with noah is one of the best.

something cool/coincidental i noticed...that newspaper clipping he sent with his old basketball team shows that his jersey number was 24. 24 was the placeholder title for Car Keys. Probably coincidence, but kind of a cool easter egg.

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 9:53 pm
by Me Tiger
Was there any information about why the album was recorded to tape? Was it Elevado’s decision? Which were the restrictions — like the maximum number of tracks per song, was every track recorded from the beginning to the end of a song, etc? It’d be interesting to know about it in the forthcoming interviews.
There’s a lot of tape hiss on the record.

Also, it’s interesting which of the two albums guys prefer themselves.

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 9:59 pm
by Stories and Games
Slippi's Applesauce wrote:

lmao at it being an effusively positive track by track review until it just entirely skips over ACAB and pretends it doesn't exist

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:10 pm
by awesome
quite a positive review (sans rating) here in FLOOD magazine

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:19 am
by jerry wonder
awesome wrote:
quite a positive review (sans rating) here in FLOOD magazine

Wow, beautiful review, really captures the record--perfectly describes Stride ('twinkles with cascades of piano'), and acknowledges that Genies and Magicians are top tier...

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:11 am
by roopn
Anybody go to the q+a in Berlin? Very curious what info might come out of those

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:38 am
by dansemanatee
The Chicago listening party was a little more last minute so it was basically just the record being played on a hifi system at a restaurant but even with all the people talking over it the album sounded amazing. Definitely looking forward to getting the vinyl after i get my turntable set up again.

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:08 am
by foxtrot
One day til release day! I’ve listened a hundred times already but still pumped for it to be out there. Another masterpiece from the GOAT. Also gonna be nice to hold a physical copy in my hands. I’m unreasonably excited.

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:12 am
by r_o_s_s
Can't believe I'll be hearing the album in 12 hours time. Just got to get through the rest of today. It's soooo close to being NOW.

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:28 am
by Alex Kintner
jerry wonder wrote:
lol how is P4k going to handle oneohtrix, wilco, and animal collective all coming out on the same day? My guess is Wilco gets top bill as it seems their new album might actually be good, and then either AC or oneohtrix get their review on Saturday, and whoever loses out gets Monday? Maybe best album wins Friday? I hope its IIN


Wilco reviewed today and got 7.1

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:35 am
by jerry wonder
Alex Kintner wrote:
jerry wonder wrote:
lol how is P4k going to handle oneohtrix, wilco, and animal collective all coming out on the same day? My guess is Wilco gets top bill as it seems their new album might actually be good, and then either AC or oneohtrix get their review on Saturday, and whoever loses out gets Monday? Maybe best album wins Friday? I hope its IIN


Wilco reviewed today and got 7.1

Oh snap, I think our boys are going to get their big score and day!

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:47 pm
by alvinrowx
Going to the Paris listening party tonight <3

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:58 pm
by awesome
mildew_on_rice wrote:
that interview with noah is one of the best.

something cool/coincidental i noticed...that newspaper clipping he sent with his old basketball team shows that his jersey number was 24. 24 was the placeholder title for Car Keys. Probably coincidence, but kind of a cool easter egg.

that's not his jersey being #24, that's him dropping 24 points in the game (baller)

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:59 pm
by awesome

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:28 pm
by augustjsmith
awesome wrote:

I love that Fred Thomas has been their in-house AnCo reviewer for quite a few releases now. His solo records and his bands, Saturday Looks Good to Me and Idle Ray, are amazing. Love that he's an AnCo head, too.

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:37 pm
by leaf_dwelling
vinyl out for delivery today. excited to spin the wax! here's hoping for a nice pressing. defeat 12inch was great, but TS seemed to fall flat.

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:57 pm
by robgnarr
really excited for this and honestly really thankful for the AnCo boys for keeping up such a steady stream of engaging content for so many years. I'm in the minority that isn't really too into Defeat but hopefully it grows on me in the context of the rest of the album. I only heard these songs in the live shows I attended and haven't been checking out the boots or singles so it will be really fresh for me!!

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:24 pm
by dio
This is the grossest thing to speculate on but im bored at work and...

I bet AC will also get a 7.1 like Wilco from The Fork. I think they're honestly very self conscious about embracing bands they initially championed or are known for championing and so approach those bands with a self conscious weariness.

Now they also used to hype Oneohtrix a lot but something about him feels different, like he's still somehow ascending, so idk, Oneohtrix will be 9.5 and IIN with by 6.9, and we will feel very grossed out and confused by that, but whatever, calling it now