[Mr_Neffets]

coral lord wrote:

as a deerhunter fan my biggest fear with AC is a quiet fade away into nothingness but no reason to think that's ever going to happen

You never know, but I get the sense that AC will be making music right up till they collectively give up the ghost. I don’t think they’d know what else to do.

[foxtrot]

they're friendships also feel enduring enough that even if there are long periods where they're doing other things, they'll always eventually come back together in various configurations to make new things.

[Fovrodi]

"As far as discovering who we are and what we need to do, I feel that’s something we are figuring out on a daily basis—I’m sure that process wont end until we’re dead and perhaps not even then."-Panda

[BoomCheese]

coral lord wrote:

as a deerhunter fan my biggest fear with AC is a quiet fade away into nothingness but no reason to think that's ever going to happen

Funnily enough I fanboy-ed to Andrew Savage after his gig in Sydney tonight, and I asked him about Deerhunter (I mean, look at my avatar…) and he said Bradford came up to him after a show last year and essentially asked him if he’d consider being in his band haha (not sure how serious). So I think there’s still hope for more music someday!

[preakness]

BoomCheese wrote:

coral lord wrote:

as a deerhunter fan my biggest fear with AC is a quiet fade away into nothingness but no reason to think that's ever going to happen

Funnily enough I fanboy-ed to Andrew Savage after his gig in Sydney tonight, and I asked him about Deerhunter (I mean, look at my avatar…) and he said Bradford came up to him after a show last year and essentially asked him if he’d consider being in his band haha (not sure how serious). So I think there’s still hope for more music someday!

word on the street is that he's been quietly working on his own stuff. moses has been working on moon diagrams and has said he is no longer working with Bradford, and lockett started a new career in coding. i think we'll be getting a surprise atlas sound album next year and maybe a small tour to support.

[tdegenaro]

live at the ace hotel has become my definitive sung tongs

[Dallou]

preakness wrote:

BoomCheese wrote:

coral lord wrote:

as a deerhunter fan my biggest fear with AC is a quiet fade away into nothingness but no reason to think that's ever going to happen

Funnily enough I fanboy-ed to Andrew Savage after his gig in Sydney tonight, and I asked him about Deerhunter (I mean, look at my avatar…) and he said Bradford came up to him after a show last year and essentially asked him if he’d consider being in his band haha (not sure how serious). So I think there’s still hope for more music someday!

word on the street is that he's been quietly working on his own stuff. moses has been working on moon diagrams and has said he is no longer working with Bradford, and lockett started a new career in coding. i think we'll be getting a surprise atlas sound album next year and maybe a small tour to support.

I hope we ll get some new lotus plaza at some point too

[scrambledgreggs]

Alcohol wrote:

Avey remixed Sham’s “Self Portrait in White.” It’s good.

it is! the whole little remix EP is super good. I've never checked out Sham before but now I'm very interested

https://shamtunes.bandcamp.com/album/machine-sample

[preakness]

Dallou wrote:

preakness wrote:

BoomCheese wrote:

coral lord wrote:

as a deerhunter fan my biggest fear with AC is a quiet fade away into nothingness but no reason to think that's ever going to happen

Funnily enough I fanboy-ed to Andrew Savage after his gig in Sydney tonight, and I asked him about Deerhunter (I mean, look at my avatar…) and he said Bradford came up to him after a show last year and essentially asked him if he’d consider being in his band haha (not sure how serious). So I think there’s still hope for more music someday!

word on the street is that he's been quietly working on his own stuff. moses has been working on moon diagrams and has said he is no longer working with Bradford, and lockett started a new career in coding. i think we'll be getting a surprise atlas sound album next year and maybe a small tour to support.

I hope we ll get some new lotus plaza at some point too

i asked lockett if he had any plans for lotus plaza in 2019 and he said "one day for sure" but that was before his new career

[marmoacolazionereloaded]

pox wrote:

i think yall missed this post

wrote:

Ok so, let's say: why does he stopped to do more long dilated suite?

so really the point being made is his songs have gotten more compact, not necessarily simpler.

he lets them sprawl in live performances but i would agree he's drifted away from songs that sound expansive and exploratory on record. i think there are exceptions beyond ntb, e.g. the aforementioned genies open. i don't entirely know the background of how genies was written, though i know it came about from the sung tongs tour and avey helped flesh it out from there. idk to what degree it involved jamming together vs pieces written separately. but the fact that it originated in a live setting is probably a key factor in having a more unpredictable structure. i think most panda songs these days are composed mostly or entirely in isolation and don't leave much room for expanding the structure. i could be wrong.

Genie's is a noah song? I suspect it, but i wasnt sure about it. Happy to ear. It made perfectly sense what you said.

[marmoacolazionereloaded]

scrambledgreggs wrote:

New Town Burnout was a Tomboy outtake so who knows how early it was even written

I've also had the takeaway that his contributions to AC records have been more compact and direct than Avey's, but I don't really think that's much different than how things were before MPP. Derek had a pretty simple structure, and Chores and Daily Routine kinda did as well if you chop off the extended outros

You talk about one of the greatest space travel i've ever made in my entire life when you talk about "the outro", at the point that i even consider the first part of the song as the "long intro"

[hewasbeingstinky]

marmoacolazionereloaded wrote:

pox wrote:

i think yall missed this post

wrote:

Ok so, let's say: why does he stopped to do more long dilated suite?

so really the point being made is his songs have gotten more compact, not necessarily simpler.

he lets them sprawl in live performances but i would agree he's drifted away from songs that sound expansive and exploratory on record. i think there are exceptions beyond ntb, e.g. the aforementioned genies open. i don't entirely know the background of how genies was written, though i know it came about from the sung tongs tour and avey helped flesh it out from there. idk to what degree it involved jamming together vs pieces written separately. but the fact that it originated in a live setting is probably a key factor in having a more unpredictable structure. i think most panda songs these days are composed mostly or entirely in isolation and don't leave much room for expanding the structure. i could be wrong.

Genie's is a noah song? I suspect it, but i wasnt sure about it. Happy to ear. It made perfectly sense what you said.

I’m pretty sure the first half of Genie’s is a Noah song, and then the Sea of Light section is a Dave song. Pretty sure it was stated somewhere in some interview or press for IIN? but I can’t remember where

[blindmowing]

Avey + Deakin at Domino Recs HQ today. great photo, so much joy
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https://www.instagram.com/p/DCeq0iUxpho/

[PolarBear]

I’m not sure how many are aware of this but apparently Sham and Avey Tare are performing together under the name Ellicott Hooligan

https://www.reddit.com/r/AnimalCollective/s/ondxcxhGLg

[Hash]

jfw7 wrote:

the only super unique track is the young prayer performance, only other partial recording is on ACB

e: it looks like the first Japanese release of Sung Tongs is happening mid-november with some live bonus tracks, possibly the first three songs off the pitchfork 2017 show? https://www.beatink.com/products/detail ... t_id=14430

I've just been in a Tower Records store in Tokyo and saw a copy of it

Spoiler: show

Better add these to the list of "super unique tracks"!!!! lol

Also saw MPP with "From a Beach"

[jfw7]

cool to see the picture! looks like it's actually from the official live release not pitchfork, so nothing ranking "super unique" for me

[Alcohol]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/11/arts ... =url-share

Our dudes in The New York Times…

[Fovrodi]

Avey and Aaron Dillaway (of Wolf Eyes infame)! Looking forward to it kinda (unless it's exclusively vinyl haha)

[Hash]

Nice article, thanks Alcohol

jfw7 wrote:

cool to see the picture! looks like it's actually from the official live release not pitchfork, so nothing ranking "super unique" for me

Yeah sorry that was a very sarcastic "super unique" on my part, honestly it's one of the lamest sets of Japanese bonus tracks I've seen! Tracks from a different show would have been so much more interesting, even the Pitchfork one which is already available in a different format

[jfw7]

hash i completely missed it was you posting or i would have read the sarcasm. hope you're having / had a good time in japan !!

[jfw7]

avey has a live performance of "coral lords" on this upcoming benefit release https://resonancesessions.bandcamp.com/ ... e-sessions

[coral lord]

hell yeah

[Hash]

Thanks jfw7, yeah it was great

[preakness]

has anyone else checked out the stem splitter on logic? ive been running a ton of ac and pb songs through it and have found some really cool "easter eggs" in the vocal tracks. Its not perfect but better than others ive used and really good a picking out little details.

[gosly]

I just started playing with stem splitter; up to now, I've been using X-minus.pro for removing vocals etc. One thing I've found with almost all of 'em is that it confuses some guitar tones for keys, which is kinda annoying.

[thelucky1]

blindmowing wrote:

I think so too.

2025 - SG, Panda world tour, maybe an Avey release
2026 - Deakin solo album?, AC tours again
2027 - AC LP

Mark my words, we are getting a Strawberry Jam 20th anniversary tour.

[Tropic]

0% chance

[we<3ourhive]

None of them like sj very much iirc. Maybe we'll get a strawberry jam live album or something

[destiny]

its kinda funny that they have two songs named "whaddit i done" and "what i do"

[roopn]

like Marvin gaye "what's going on" and "what's happening brother"

[scrambledgreggs]

PolarBear wrote:

I’m not sure how many are aware of this but apparently Sham and Avey Tare are performing together under the name Ellicott Hooligan

https://www.reddit.com/r/AnimalCollective/s/ondxcxhGLg

been digging into Sham's albums recently which are very Tongs-like (and good!), definitely seems like a natural pairing. excited to hear Avey's contributions

[r_o_s_s]

Just relistened to SJ the other day. It's not one that's in my regular rotation but in my mind it's so clearly a winter album. The whole record has the feeling of when you take that step out into the cold crisp air and it hits your lungs. What a feeling. Nothing else like it.

I can't imagine AC ever making an album like this again. Or any other band making a record capturing this feeling again in my lifetime. It's not something I can listen to regularly - but when it's the right time - it hits like nothing else.

As you were. Ross.

[blindmowing]

I listened to MPP in the pouring rain at night and it was perfect.

When I listen to Feels on a sunny summer's day I think it's the best AC album.
When I listen to Sung Tongs in the spring I think it's the best AC album.
When I listen to Strawberry Jam in the fall I think it's the best AC album.
So naturally now that it's winter and rainy, I think MPP is the best AC album.

[nothingmastered]

ideal settings for the albums:

spirit - the night of winter solstice with snow falling
danse - stoney baloney 1 am at my computer
campfire - very gray, misty and wet late winter/early spring
ark - walking through the woods in late fall, trees bare, light fading
tongs - biking around aimlessly on a sunny mid fall day
feels - spring day with sunlight shining through big patches of dark rainclouds
strawberry jam - muggy and hot late summer or in the bleak midwinter
mpp - sunny and bright early summer
centipede - stuck in traffic in the city on a hot dusty day
painting - general summer background tunes while cleaning and such
skiffs - walking around outside in sunny late spring/early summer
iin? - october at 8 pm on a thursday

[we<3ourhive]

nothingmastered wrote:

ideal settings for the albums:

spirit - the night of winter solstice with snow falling
danse - stoney baloney 1 am at my computer
campfire - very gray, misty and wet late winter/early spring
ark - walking through the woods in late fall, trees bare, light fading
tongs - biking around aimlessly on a sunny mid fall day
feels - spring day with sunlight shining through big patches of dark rainclouds
strawberry jam - muggy and hot late summer or in the bleak midwinter
mpp - sunny and bright early summer
centipede - stuck in traffic in the city on a hot dusty day
painting - general summer background tunes while cleaning and such
skiffs - walking around outside in sunny late spring/early summer
iin? - october at 8 pm on a thursday

PRECISELY

[destiny]

roopn wrote:

like Marvin gaye "what's going on" and "what's happening brother"

fhjkaskjh it reminds me of a playlist i saw on spotify of a bunch of his songs whose titles were questions with the title "marvin gaye's clueless ass" gdaklgjg

[lhtd]

we<3ourhive wrote:

nothingmastered wrote:

ideal settings for the albums:

spirit - the night of winter solstice with snow falling
danse - stoney baloney 1 am at my computer
campfire - very gray, misty and wet late winter/early spring
ark - walking through the woods in late fall, trees bare, light fading
tongs - biking around aimlessly on a sunny mid fall day
feels - spring day with sunlight shining through big patches of dark rainclouds
strawberry jam - muggy and hot late summer or in the bleak midwinter
mpp - sunny and bright early summer
centipede - stuck in traffic in the city on a hot dusty day
painting - general summer background tunes while cleaning and such
skiffs - walking around outside in sunny late spring/early summer
iin? - october at 8 pm on a thursday

PRECISELY

Ya but all of AC's records are so archetypal... I think each season represented here (expressed beautifully) could also be reversed and still hold. For instance, MPP is also a dark and late winter/Christmas record.

[Tropic]

Agreed. Their records speak to nature, not seasons imo. Though there are a couple outliers

[thelucky1]

we<3ourhive wrote:

None of them like sj very much iirc. Maybe we'll get a strawberry jam live album or something

I thought it was the production that they hated, not the songs. They played like half the album last time they toured.

[lhtd]

Funny how we all remember interviews about the record differently

IIRC, the band wasn't contented with the first mix. They consequently mixed the record again, which is probably why Safer sounds so different (and much more in the vein of Feels, i.e., "dry") when it comes to the mix. The final SJ mix uses spatial effects in a way that's unique from the Feels/People/Safer mixes, in addition to the vocals and overall mix sounding clearer and yet harsher. I've attributed the contradiction in the mixing aesthetic to the album theme; both organic and fluid, artificial and abrupt.

IIRC again, the band was also having personal/interpersonal issues. I think Josh spoke in recent years about challenges with identity in the band (or something to that effect). I'd imagine that a close group of friends who make money together being creative are bound to run into issues with one another time and again, so who knows besides them what might have been going on.

Anyhow. I sense that they like the songs? Or most of them? Would be odd to play them live over the years if they didn't.