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Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:38 pm
by howsoever
Cute shots of the band playing in the eyes of the animation video!
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:39 pm
by Me Tiger
PJ had don’t let me down vibes. SC makes me think of you’ve got to hide your love away.
I love the song, for me the production is perfect this time. I like it better than of TS (though it was also good). can’t wait to hear the whole thing!
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:41 pm
by blindmowing
Didn’t Willie say there was studio chatter on SC?
So they’re saving the intro for album and maybe we get some cool little vocal bit before the drums and guitar kick in
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:43 pm
by famousprophets
howsoever wrote:
Cute shots of the band playing in the eyes of the animation video!
Also myanimalhome got updated again with some cool animations
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:45 pm
by howsoever
zak wrote:
ACAB only 2 minutes long.. not sure what to expect there, especially since it could be the last proper "song" on the album. Kings is just an acapella piece for the most part right? that's what i remember most from the boots but I've tried to stay away
also SC is amazing.
Avey in 2022: I don’t know if I can write a shorter song anymore haha
Avey in December 2021: [writes one of the shortest Animal Collective songs ever]
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:46 pm
by willie dustice
Is it just me or is the album cover art terrible lol
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:46 pm
by roopn
I think someone said deakin plays bass on soul? Assuming correct I can really hear it in the outro, the bass part evokes fuckin flesh canoe, turn into something,chores guitar, peak deak guit (rhymes)
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:48 pm
by Jam
My friend’s review: “The lead singer sounds like he’s not currently trapped in a jar and being shaken up but like he WAS at one point trapped in a jar and shaken around and he’s lived in fear of it ever since but his constantly pretending to everyone he knows and maybe to himself a little that he isn’t.”
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:48 pm
by willie dustice
tay's tee games wrote:
Broke must really dive straight in with the bass line eh?
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Correct
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:49 pm
by preacherben
willie dustice wrote:
Is it just me or is the album cover art terrible lol
i like it a lot + cohesion with skiffs
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:49 pm
by Slippi's Applesauce
a little blurb on rough trade calls gem and i a single:
Across its 9 tracks, Isn’t It Now? has something for everyone from the catchy bassline on the highly-repeatable single “Gem and I” to the heady 22min centrepiece “Defeat” which we recently released on 12”.
https://www.roughtrade.com/us/product/a ... range-plus
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:51 pm
by wilandhugs
Slippi's Applesauce wrote:
a little blurb on rough trade calls gem and i a single:
Across its 9 tracks, Isn’t It Now? has something for everyone from the catchy bassline on the highly-repeatable single “Gem and I” to the heady 22min centrepiece “Defeat” which we recently released on 12”.
https://www.roughtrade.com/us/product/a ... range-plus
Honestly though, it was either it or Broke for the next single.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:52 pm
by speen
willie dustice wrote:
Is it just me or is the album cover art terrible lol
strongly disagree i think its beautiful
This albums gonna sound so good in the fall
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:54 pm
by shellfishgrimes
wilandhugs wrote:
Slippi's Applesauce wrote:
a little blurb on rough trade calls gem and i a single:
Across its 9 tracks, Isn’t It Now? has something for everyone from the catchy bassline on the highly-repeatable single “Gem and I” to the heady 22min centrepiece “Defeat” which we recently released on 12”.
https://www.roughtrade.com/us/product/a ... range-plus
Honestly though, it was either it or Broke for the next single.
yeah no surprise there!
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:56 pm
by opposite field
I only got one listen in so far but my immediate reaction is that this is better than anything on Skiffs, at least production/sound/vibe wise. I love it and think they nailed it and it rules to see so many people on this board converted to fans after being not convinced for so long.
I feel like when the blast version of Soul dropped it was so exciting to have everyone be like "what the hell is this?" Like most people on here I feel like I am so on top of new songs and boots I find it so special when we I get to first hear completely new unspoiled AC music. I was on a camping trip up in Maine with my now fiancé and I was like literally struggling to get phone service to be able to stream it. Lots of good memories from the soul capturer.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:56 pm
by howsoever
Slippi's Applesauce wrote:
a little blurb on rough trade calls gem and i a single:
Across its 9 tracks, Isn’t It Now? has something for everyone from the catchy bassline on the highly-repeatable single “Gem and I” to the heady 22min centrepiece “Defeat” which we recently released on 12”.
https://www.roughtrade.com/us/product/a ... range-plus
Damn. I like this tangerine more than the orchid they had on Domino. Already ordered though…
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:57 pm
by awesome
WILLIE —— my 1 question for you is: did they keep the Trains Across the Sea interpolation in on Genie's Open
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:59 pm
by tdegenaro
Slippi's Applesauce wrote:
a little blurb on rough trade calls gem and i a single:
Across its 9 tracks, Isn’t It Now? has something for everyone from the catchy bassline on the highly-repeatable single “Gem and I” to the heady 22min centrepiece “Defeat” which we recently released on 12”.
https://www.roughtrade.com/us/product/a ... range-plus
panda gang rise up
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:59 pm
by kafkaesque
holy fuck y'all. this song is... *so* good. i'm grinning from ear to ear. the boys have cooked up something truly special.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:00 pm
by BoomCheese
Love it. Sounds like the kind of song I would randomly find on YouTube during that blissful year that I discovered AC. Something about the song’s tempo and soundscape bleeds nostalgia for me.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:00 pm
by coral lord
Slippi's Applesauce wrote:
a little blurb on rough trade calls gem and i a single:
Across its 9 tracks, Isn’t It Now? has something for everyone from the catchy bassline on the highly-repeatable single “Gem and I” to the heady 22min centrepiece “Defeat” which we recently released on 12”.
https://www.roughtrade.com/us/product/a ... range-plus
YES
YES
YES
fuck YES
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:01 pm
by opposite field
awesome wrote:
WILLIE —— my 1 question for you is: did they keep the Trains Across the Sea interpolation in on Genie's Open
Also would love to know but kind of don't. I know it's pretty hard to get rights/permissions in cases like this but I've always held out hope that the DCB estate would be ok with it since the Avey and Geo are such deep fans.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:01 pm
by meys
just ran it through some plugins - the backwards effect in the transition is actually an apology from the band for not putting defeat on the album
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:02 pm
by coral lord
howsoever wrote:
Slippi's Applesauce wrote:
a little blurb on rough trade calls gem and i a single:
Across its 9 tracks, Isn’t It Now? has something for everyone from the catchy bassline on the highly-repeatable single “Gem and I” to the heady 22min centrepiece “Defeat” which we recently released on 12”.
https://www.roughtrade.com/us/product/a ... range-plus
Damn. I like this tangerine more than the orchid they had on Domino. Already ordered though…
knowing the way they've teased projects using loyal fans that purchase stuff on domino, i'm not buying anywhere else. even though the tangerine is much nicer and fits the cover better for sure.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:03 pm
by zak
meys wrote:
just ran it through some plugins - the backwards effect in the transition is actually an apology from the band for not putting defeat on the album
i don't get it

they obviously must know its a fan favorite and deserves a spot on the album
Re: LP after Time Skiffs (new LP number 2)
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:05 pm
by hybrination
Alcohol wrote:
hybrination wrote:
油の男 wrote:
blindmowing wrote:
on the topic, i guess i've played AC enough for my wife that when i play Feels she thinks it's normal enough that when her very conservative rural midwest parents come over, she says "play Feels i think they'd like it"
Conservative rural guy here, love Feels, was my first album. Love all AnCo albums. It's just good vibes.
im gonna need some explanation here,
conservative meaning what?
do you hate brown people and gay people?
Fuck off with the politics. Every time politics comes up on this board it ruins the fun. The “play Feels i think they’d like it” bit is fucking funny. Fuck off we’re having a good time here ol’ sport.
no
i also think soul capturer is an explicitly political song
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:07 pm
by kafkaesque
meys wrote:
just ran it through some plugins - the backwards effect in the transition is actually an apology from the band for not putting defeat on the album
confused, defeat is track 5 on the album.
i got an email from domino that has the track listing (though i imagine it's already been posted):
1. soul capturer
2. genies
3. broke zodiac
4. magicians from baltimore
5. defeat
6. gem and i
7. stride rite
8. all the clubs are broken
9. kings walk
who was closest by the way?
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:07 pm
by tay's tee games
One of my favourite AC anecdotes is Stevie Wonder's manager being like "absolutely fucking not, I won't even waste Stevie's time with this shit" when they asked to include the I Just Called To Say I Love You snippet on the studio version of TPB. I don't see the Silver Jews reps acting the same way but I also don't see AC going for it a second time. Stand to be corrected though (cough Willie cough).
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:09 pm
by tay's tee games
kafkaesque wrote:
who was closest by the way?
Absolutely nobody lol
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:09 pm
by kafkaesque
coral lord wrote:
Slippi's Applesauce wrote:
a little blurb on rough trade calls gem and i a single:
Across its 9 tracks, Isn’t It Now? has something for everyone from the catchy bassline on the highly-repeatable single “Gem and I” to the heady 22min centrepiece “Defeat” which we recently released on 12”.
https://www.roughtrade.com/us/product/a ... range-plus
YES
YES
YES
fuck YES
stoked for this, gem & i was one of my favorites seeing it live. i keep hearing the hook in my head lol.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:09 pm
by kafkaesque
tay's tee games wrote:
kafkaesque wrote:
who was closest by the way?
Absolutely nobody lol
LOL
yeah i was thinking... i didn't see many put defeat as track 5 nor kings walk as the closer.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:10 pm
by 油の男
kafkaesque wrote:
meys wrote:
just ran it through some plugins - the backwards effect in the transition is actually an apology from the band for not putting defeat on the album
confused, defeat is track 5 on the album.
i got an email from domino that has the track listing (though i imagine it's already been posted):
1. soul capturer
2. genies
3. broke zodiac
4. magicians from baltimore
5. gem and i
6. stride rite
7. all the clubs are broken
8. kings walk
who was closest by the way?
I think you should get your eyes checked, Defeat clearly isn't listed there.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:11 pm
by Slippi's Applesauce
tay's tee games wrote:
kafkaesque wrote:
who was closest by the way?
Absolutely nobody lol
Someone on Reddit had:
Kings
Genies
Zodiac
Soul Capturer
Magicians
Defeat
Gem
Stride
New song
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:14 pm
by opposite field
tay's tee games wrote:
One of my favourite AC anecdotes is Stevie Wonder's manager being like "absolutely fucking not, I won't even waste Stevie's time with this shit" when they asked to include the I Just Called To Say I Love You snippet on the studio version of TPB. I don't see the Silver Jews reps acting the same way but I also don't see AC going for it a second time. Stand to be corrected though (cough Willie cough).
I like to think Stevie woulda been cool with it if it ever made it up to him, he gets crazy with the effects sometimes.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:14 pm
by meys
Defeat bit aside. I was really not excited for this song, but did a complete 180, this is fucking incredible!
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:17 pm
by Hellomark
On first listen it's slightly different from what I was expecting, but in a really exciting way. Have no idea what surprises to expect for the rest of the songs! Avey's voice is straight up beautiful here.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:18 pm
by lhtd
The mix is SO much more cohesive and proportional than Time Skiffs. Damn. They knocked it out the park, as did Russ.
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:18 pm
by tay's tee games
opposite field wrote:
tay's tee games wrote:
One of my favourite AC anecdotes is Stevie Wonder's manager being like "absolutely fucking not, I won't even waste Stevie's time with this shit" when they asked to include the I Just Called To Say I Love You snippet on the studio version of TPB. I don't see the Silver Jews reps acting the same way but I also don't see AC going for it a second time. Stand to be corrected though (cough Willie cough).
I like to think Stevie woulda been cool with it if it ever made it up to him, he gets crazy with the effects sometimes.
I agree! Also I wonder if they had to clear it for Live at 9:30?
Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:21 pm
by 油の男
tay's tee games wrote:
One of my favourite AC anecdotes is Stevie Wonder's manager being like "absolutely fucking not, I won't even waste Stevie's time with this shit" when they asked to include the I Just Called To Say I Love You snippet on the studio version of TPB. I don't see the Silver Jews reps acting the same way but I also don't see AC going for it a second time. Stand to be corrected though (cough Willie cough).
Lyricss not showing up on here

Re: "Isn't It Now?" - aka will Defeat be on the album???
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:21 pm
by preakness
coral lord wrote:
is that strum with a few seconds left from the genie's intro?
are we getting a "sea of light" 2017 sung tongs tour era genies??? to be honest i would love that, i definitely prefer sea of light and was absolutely mind blown when they played it in 2017.
soul capturer sounds so good! i was honestly a big fan of it from the beginning. anytime i see noah playing guitar i get super excited. and the song has a certain grateful dead-iness about it which i love.