Collected Animals

TapirMache wrote:

Looking at it outside of the context of Animal Collective, Floridada is a pretty good song, within the context of their discography, it's one of their worst songs ever.

I actually agree. If this wasn't an animal collective song I probably would have only listened to it once and forgotten about it. I keep giving it more tries but I'm really not feeling it.
I'm hoping the rest of the album will tickle my fancy a lot more!

there is so, so much wrong with claiming that everyone who really enjoys this song is deceiving him/herself out of blind fandom. it's the difference between saying "ah, i don't think this stands up to their best material" and saying "you are deluding yourself if you think this song is really good." the former is perfectly respectful disagreement. the latter is presumptuous, rude, and almost definitely not true.

Of course my dislike of the track stems from a place of objectivity

I don't know where you get the idea that I don't like the song,

TapirMache wrote:

Of course my dislike of the track stems from a place of objectivity

I don't know where you get the idea that I don't like the song,

We are being troll'd do not engage

uhhh... a place of subjectivity? jesus christ. has it taken you this long to realize that art and the appreciation thereof is subjective?

there is absolutely nothing wrong with not digging this song as much as their old material. furthermore, there is absolutely nothing wrong with voicing why you (relatively) dislike it. but there is so, so much wrong with claiming that everyone who really enjoys this song is deceiving him/herself out of blind fandom. it's the difference between saying "ah, i don't think this stands up to their best material" and saying "you are deluding yourself if you think this song is really good." the former is perfectly respectful disagreement. the latter is presumptuous, rude, and almost definitely not true.

have you read these forums much? people voice dislike of animal collective material all the time. the easiest example is centipede hz, which plenty of people on this board thought was a bit of a disappointment.

tapir, i got news for ya, bud: youre hilarious, your self-important attitude is genuinely one of the funniest things ive seen this year. thanks for the laughs, bro.

TapirMache, take note on how rocks is clearly being subjective in his argument. He is also being open minded in hoping there will be better things for him to come. If you don't want to feel like you're being attacked, go about arguing like this

*fapping intensifies*

skycrwlr wrote:

TapirMache wrote:

Of course my dislike of the track stems from a place of objectivity

I don't know where you get the idea that I don't like the song,

We are being troll'd do not engage

I'm not trolling at all, do you really think I can't like something and simultaneously have criticisms? I remember saying multiple times that I liked and enjoyed the track, however I don't think it's very good.

tapir.. Sorta Joe Biden-esque

maybe I just needed some time to fall out of love with AC

(it's been since ODDSAC that I felt rly moved) (CHz got me good on first stoned listen but faded fast)

but I think "FloriDada" might be the best single of theirs since "Grass"

Looking at them objectively, they've made more musical innovations than any single band since The Beatles.

Spoiler: show

Alright guys just hear me out here please.

TapirMache as username puzzled me at first, but then I started paying attention to the quality of the users posts, and thats when it hit me, or shit me rather.

There's an old joke that goes, "Why are your poo poos tapered?" Tapered meaning, within the context of poop, that your poos max width, from the center, branching out in both directions, slowly diminishes in size as it exits your rectum. The answer to the question "why are poo poos tapered?" is comically "So your asshole doesn't slam shut".

*pause for laughter*

As I read TapirMache's posts, I wondered why someone would post such in such a manner. This poster seems knowledgeable on the topics discussed, and yet seems to be almost intentionally contradicting their self, but why? Out of desperation to understand, in my minds eye, I imagined this poster poo pooing on the thread itself.

That is when the rubber hit the road.

Something clicked for me, and I began to disect this users username.

TapirMache

Tapir Mache

Taper Mache

Taper Machine

TAPER MACHINE.

THE RECTUMS TAPER APPARATUS ENSURES SAVE DELIVERY OF A WELL ROUNDED AND SOLID TURD.

TAPIRMACHE IS NOTHING MORE THAN A COMMON

SHIT POSTER

Floridada is very boring, there's no mystery to how they wrote it.

I've gone to every length imaginable to ensure my objective opinion is free of bias or any personal attachments I have to the music so that I'm able to look at it more clearly in the light of historical context, solely judging its intrinsic value.

do you really think it's impossible to judge music objectively?

Personally, I don't like floridada. I've been obsessed with AC for 4 years and it's by far my least favorite song of theirs. Why? Not sure but I think it's because fractals. I saw a dark horse the first time I heard peacebone. It's a single but again, 2 simultaneous conjunctions of Sap when I sat down and first played moonjock. Avey concurred egoic battles; nothing left to life but symmetry enjoyment. Panda dad and settled with simplicity. Brian..... Lost soul and confusion eyes. It's from this hole (his naval hole) arise sounds summoning unnecessary turmoil (darkerhorse on B sides) and spins. Took me 3 long nights to recover after listening to Floridada first time. 3 months ago this was foreshadowed when I was in a silent sweat lodge and encountered incessant mosquito over lords. 3 long nights repeating "flor flor flor flor" finally I embraced inevitable destruction and assumed my Breathe was done for. Maybe I was in a vulnerable state or maybe the song just sucks but whirling energies, undercooked chicken, and flax for the uploads leave me to doubt. Hopefully pitchfork will BNT stamp on the stair man (pandas dad center) and I can alter my opinion with grace. Cheers.

Personally, I don't like floridada. I've been obsessed with AC for 4 years and it's by far my least favorite song of theirs. Why? Not sure but I think it's because fractals. I saw a dark horse the first time I heard peacebone. It's a single but again, 2 simultaneous conjunctions of Sap when I sat down and first played moonjock. Avey concurred egoic battles; nothing left to life but symmetry enjoyment. Panda dad and settled with simplicity. Brian..... Lost soul and confusion eyes. It's from this hole (his naval hole) arise sounds summoning unnecessary turmoil (darkerhorse on B sides) and spins. Took me 3 long nights to recover after listening to Floridada first time. 3 months ago this was foreshadowed when I was in a silent sweat lodge and encountered incessant mosquito over lords. 3 long nights repeating "flor flor flor flor" finally I embraced inevitable destruction and assumed my Breathe was done for. Maybe I was in a vulnerable state or maybe the song just sucks but whirling energies, undercooked chicken, and flax for the uploads leave me to doubt. Hopefully pitchfork will BNT stamp on the stair man (pandas dad center) and I can alter my opinion with grace. Cheers.

HEadroom wrote:

Personally, I don't like floridada. I've been obsessed with AC for 4 years and it's by far my least favorite song of theirs. Why? Not sure but I think it's because fractals. I saw a dark horse the first time I heard peacebone. It's a single but again, 2 simultaneous conjunctions of Sap when I sat down and first played moonjock. Avey concurred egoic battles; nothing left to life but symmetry enjoyment. Panda dad and settled with simplicity. Brian..... Lost soul and confusion eyes. It's from this hole (his naval hole) arise sounds summoning unnecessary turmoil (darkerhorse on B sides) and spins. Took me 3 long nights to recover after listening to Floridada first time. 3 months ago this was foreshadowed when I was in a silent sweat lodge and encountered incessant mosquito over lords. 3 long nights repeating "flor flor flor flor" finally I embraced inevitable destruction and assumed my Breathe was done for. Maybe I was in a vulnerable state or maybe the song just sucks but whirling energies, undercooked chicken, and flax for the uploads leave me to doubt. Hopefully pitchfork will BNT stamp on the stair man (pandas dad center) and I can alter my opinion with grace. Cheers.

same

memeber

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See the alignment.... A 5th member approaching.... Deakins blood and flesh sacrificed to create an alternative... A new animal... 17 years ago a pulse out of a miscarriage... A pilar representation of deakins useless soul. But out of uselessness; an offering. A self realization of ones own lacking... Deakin preparing himself for obliteration "a bridge so old so let it go"... The cosmic letting go of lifeness and destroying bones to create new pieces and forms. A 5th member approaching and a past memeber destroyed... Like the Christ of theology both "God" and "man"... Both lifeless but alive in the new carnation... A 5th member approaching. An old parasite obliterated. Succulence; excess; tri color pasta; the spoiling of the earthly centers prior to dissolving. Was it his choice, or that of the band? Avery always said " startin the hose and sprayin' the yard"... Watering the soil (soUl) of rebirth. The soil of the ash of the Phoenix who was never meant to live. " give u some peace then send u to hell"... The compassionate and sweet pity that is warrant before drawing put vitality, entering oblivion.... But then, re birth. New forms. Forget old. Deakin... De-kin... Remove from family... From Collevtive.... Then; must add to become whole. A new memeber. A 5th memeber approaching.