Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 3:36 pm
Danse is AC's most accessible release, in that you access it and immediately understand you will never listen to it again
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Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:00 pm
Lmao, that post was a rollercoaster
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:25 pm
Yeah. Danse is great though, before anyone takes that seriously
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:53 pm
I actually laughed.
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:32 pm
Goku wrote:
Texas Trill wrote:Goku wrote:Hollinndagain is by far the best release in ACs catalog
By far???
You serious?
Yeah, imo Hollinndagain is one of the better albums ever released. I'd have Feels and STGSTV as close second and third, respectively
Hollinndagain being your favorite isn't what shocked me. The addition of "by far" is what threw me for a curve ball.
But if you truly mean it then I guess that is a very unpopular opinion
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:18 pm
Painting with definitely deserves a 6.2
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:14 am
Texas Trill wrote:
Goku wrote:Texas Trill wrote:Goku wrote:Hollinndagain is by far the best release in ACs catalog
By far???
You serious?
Yeah, imo Hollinndagain is one of the better albums ever released. I'd have Feels and STGSTV as close second and third, respectively
Hollinndagain being your favorite isn't what shocked me. The addition of "by far" is what threw me for a curve ball.
But if you truly mean it then I guess that is a very unpopular opinion
My hollinn love is 100% serious. in my books nothing AC has ever released has come close to the hollinn lablakely dress. I could listen to that song forever and never get tired of it. Not to say I don't love other eras and albums, but Hollinn is a standout for me
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:13 am
That lablakely is a hell of a song
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:51 am
Animal Collective were better when they played instruments.
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:24 am
oh NO!!!!!!
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:11 pm
alwaysyou wrote:
Painting with definitely deserves a 6.2
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:57 pm
gnip gnop is top 5 ac
fight me
fight me
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:09 pm
top 5 disappointing songs*
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:20 pm
Zing
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:53 pm
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:46 am
The last AC or AC-related release I loved was Water Curses. I've enjoyed stuff since then but mainly zzzzzzzzz
Tomboy was meh and sounds like it's being played through a wet towel
PBVGR is a little bit better but still kinda zzzzzz
Sleep Cycle is probably the best thing since Water Curses
Tomboy was meh and sounds like it's being played through a wet towel
PBVGR is a little bit better but still kinda zzzzzz
Sleep Cycle is probably the best thing since Water Curses
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:51 am
how is that contrarian? is there a consensus on the board about what albums you specifically love?
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:21 am
Tropic of Cans wrote:
Yet is the most married... p weird
lol Geo is married too right? haha, most married. this seems highly biased.
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:22 am
screw hair, who has the best shaped skull? i need to know
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:21 am
jfw7 wrote:
how is that contrarian? is there a consensus on the board about what albums you specifically love?
sorry i'm a noob to this part of the board
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:36 am
it's contrarian to the average animal collective fan's perspective
don't worry about it
don't worry about it
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:40 am
thespectrum wrote:
Tropic of Cans wrote:Yet is the most married... p weird
lol Geo is married too right? haha, most married. this seems highly biased.
Noah was married first so is therefore 'more' married.
In answer to your other question, Brian.
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:51 am
Panda Bear's songwriting alone makes him one of the most important artists of our time; everything else is just the cherry on top.
Painting With would be perfect with this tracklist:
1. Hocus Pocus
2. Vertical
3. Hounds of Bairro
4. On Delay
5. The Burglars
6. Spilling Guts
7. Summing the Wretch
8. Golden Gal
9. Recycling
10. FloriDada
(Gnip Gnop/Lying in the Grass)
Sleep Cycle's critical success is at least partially attributed to nostalgia, especially in the wake of PW (This also goes for recent appraisal of CHz).
Feels is the most "pure" Animal Collective album.
PBVSGR is a modern classic, even though some songs on the EP are better.
Painting With would be perfect with this tracklist:
1. Hocus Pocus
2. Vertical
3. Hounds of Bairro
4. On Delay
5. The Burglars
6. Spilling Guts
7. Summing the Wretch
8. Golden Gal
9. Recycling
10. FloriDada
(Gnip Gnop/Lying in the Grass)
Sleep Cycle's critical success is at least partially attributed to nostalgia, especially in the wake of PW (This also goes for recent appraisal of CHz).
Feels is the most "pure" Animal Collective album.
PBVSGR is a modern classic, even though some songs on the EP are better.
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:06 am
dominoswriter92 wrote:
Panda Bear's songwriting alone makes him one of the most important artists of our time; everything else is just the cherry on top.
damn, i mean i'd consider person pitch to be pretty important, but saying he's one of the most important songwriters of our time seems like a stretch, man... good in your eyes = / = important
then again, this is the unpopular opinions thread lol
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:17 am
demonclusters wrote:
damn, i mean i'd consider person pitch to be pretty important...
PP is important, but my opinion is based chiefly on the PBVSGR-era and his PW-era songs.
demonclusters wrote:
...but saying he's one of the most important songwriters of our time seems like a stretch, man... good in your eyes = / = important
There is no way to have an objective opinion on artistic importance unless you base that importance solely/primarily on critical/commercial success.
demonclusters wrote:
then again, this is the unpopular opinions thread lol
I am painfully aware that my opinion is unpopular, but the title of this thread made me feel comfortable sharing. Thank you for your response.
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:04 pm
Welcome to the board!
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:09 pm
Dude i was saying that theres a difference between saying its good and quantifying the influence its had, which in my view is what importance means. person pitch was arguably his most influential
Spoiler: show
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:10 pm
dominoswriter92 wrote:
Painting With would be perfect with this tracklist:
1. Hocus Pocus
2. Vertical
3. Hounds of Bairro
4. On Delay
5. The Burglars
6. Spilling Guts
7. Summing the Wretch
8. Golden Gal
9. Recycling
10. FloriDada
(Gnip Gnop/Lying in the Grass)
.
You can't remove Lying in the Grass from the track list and call it perfect.
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:46 pm
demonclusters wrote:
Dude i was saying that theres a difference between saying its good and quantifying the influence its had, which in my view is what importance means. person pitch was arguably his most influential
Spoiler: show
I think influence and importance are two different things, where influence is mostly objective and importance is mostly subjective. I should've realized you meant influence from the beginning. I guess you didn't like my tone, but there's no need to call names.
AudibleKayak wrote:
You can't remove Lying in the Grass from the track list and call it perfect.
IMO:
Recycling > Hocus Pocus = Hounds of Bairro > Summing the Wretch = Spilling Guts > Lying in the Grass > Natural Selection
PW should really only have 10 songs at most, to really get that Ramones-vibe, so it had to get cut. I think it pairs well with Gnip Gnop. But if the track list is otherwise perfect to you, feel free to swap it.
Stanshant wrote:
Welcome to the board!
Thank you!
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:25 pm
Ok I know this is getting into the argument of defining terms and I know that's where arguments should end, BUT. Surely importance in the music industry is based around influence? Like if you really love a tiny band from your home town, but if they never get heard by anyone then you could argue that they're not important, no matter how genius their music may be.
Unless you mean personally important to your own life in which case what you're saying (about it being subjective) makes a lot more sense.
But if you mean important to the world then I agree with demonclusters that importance and influence are in many ways joined at the hip.
Unless you mean personally important to your own life in which case what you're saying (about it being subjective) makes a lot more sense.
But if you mean important to the world then I agree with demonclusters that importance and influence are in many ways joined at the hip.
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:06 pm
roopn wrote:
Surely importance in the music industry is based around influence? Like if you really love a tiny band from your home town, but if they never get heard by anyone then you could argue that they're not important, no matter how genius their music may be.
Unless you mean personally important to your own life in which case what you're saying (about it being subjective) makes a lot more sense.
But if you mean important to the world then I agree with demonclusters that importance and influence are in many ways joined at the hip.
I think PB's songwriting is important to my life. I think it is important to the world, though I am not sure it will be widely appreciated as I appreciate it in my lifetime (I hope it is).
Spoiler: show
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:20 pm
In which case, given that roughly half of Greaper is mid-tempo aimless earworms, I don't expect it to have any influence or importance on any scale. Arguably, Tomboy's minimalist 'three good things' approach could have a certain formalist influence, at some point, and Person Pitch has already undoubtedly been one of the major contemporary influences which even Noah hasn't been able to shake off in his own work, which now play as dumbed down rounded edge versions of the layered 'tracky' house influenced production and cavernous harmonies which he stumbled upon with Person Pitch.
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:45 pm
Regardless of your opinion of his recent stuff, it's true that person pitch is sort of his legacy and has the most musical importance. i dont really think pbvsgr will be looked back on as an overlooked masterpiece of some kind, because plenty of people love it a lot, and it got good reviews / plenty of publicity. it doesnt really "push boundaries" though, it's a very panda-bear-being-panda-bear album. i personally like the greaper era a lot (even if i think the album pales in comparison to the live shows at times), but i wont deny that person pitch is likely the most important thing he'll do (and it's my favorite, though, like i said, that's a separate category).
i gotchu reuben
edit: also, dominos, dont want to come across like im picking on you. just workin out your reasoning
i gotchu reuben
edit: also, dominos, dont want to come across like im picking on you. just workin out your reasoning
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:52 am
YA YOU GET HIM STAN SHANTS
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:53 am
jk...dont fking get him...also...BENFicA IS PROB one of the best songs panda has evr made man...might not be unpopular tho
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:07 am
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:13 pm
Stanshant wrote:
It's Dave's band. Not contrarian but unpopular.
Not only that, but Dave is leagues better than than Noah as a songwriter and especially as a vocalist. His songs are the ones that I connect with, that give me tingles on all parts of the emotional spectrum. Panda's material feels staid and monochromatic by comparison.
HowardTJMoon wrote:
PBVSGR is a filler album full of maybe 4 good songs. If you replaced these filler songs with the songs from the EPs it rises in quality by a whole bunch.
bansheebeaten wrote:
the mr. noah EP is leagues better and more memorable than PBVSGR
I swear I'm not totally a Panda hater though, Person Pitch is one of the best AC releases.
reverendloch wrote:
FBK is probably their weakest EP and WWIWS is their most "overrated" song
In terms of lyrics and vocal melody, "What Would I Want? Sky" is one of my favorite songs from these guys. However, I agree that it's overrated on account of a weak arrangement.
Also, Enter the Slasher House is the group's best post-MPP release and Feels is the group's weakest pre-MPP release.
In conclusion:
Tropic of Cans wrote:
rowan.alexander wrote:HCTI is by far the worst AC release.
This is vomit
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:54 pm
PBVSGR honestly had the potential to be one of the best things any of them has put out, but the song arrangements, production and track sequencing all got a bit mucked up. It's still good though.
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:04 pm
SouvlakiPlaystation wrote:
PBVSGR honestly had the potential to be one of the best things any of them has put out, but the song arrangements, production and track sequencing all got a bit mucked up. It's still good though.
This seems to be the popular opinion on here actually. I certainly agree with it
everything but the track sequencing i suppose, i actually like how its sequenced a lot, but the production of a few of the tracks (BBCM, boys latin and... selfish gene *cringes*) keeps it from being great for me
Re: "I'm not contrarian but..."
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:04 am
It's weird I really like PBVSGR but it's probably the most disappointing record I've ever heard. A lot of that probably has to do with me being a post-MPP fan.