Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:59 am
by speen
Yo that is so sick! I havent heard any recent bootlegs so if theyve been doing the silver jews cover, its news to me. amazing. Such a tight performance, best i’ve heard genies open for sure
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:00 am
by speen
LeadHat wrote:
incredible !!! so cool to hear avey sing a verse of trains across the sea
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Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:46 am
by lhtd
hey noah's wearing that shirt !
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:24 am
by Tropic
Sick. Usually they just do the "troubles? No troubles on the line" bit, for those wondering
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:58 am
by r_o_s_s
I abstain from listening to new stuff generally. But after having an absolutely shit month, TS2 feeling a lifetime away, and the cancellation of the EU tour, I thought I would give myself a treat and listen to that new performance of Genie's Open.
Holy shit, it is so beautiful. I need this song in my life permanently. The only other song from the next record I've heard is Kings Walk, but wow, I totally understand why everyone keeps saying it's gonna be an all-timer.
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:34 pm
by evan6032
What else did they play? Anybody record the Sirius broadcast?
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:04 pm
by MrAirplane
someone on reddit mentioned that they also played Bluish
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:31 pm
by jfw7
AxeWorld wrote:
The silver jews verse is cool i guess, still doesn't beat the World Cafe recording though, that sounds MINT (which should get added to the boots list wink wink)
is the world cafe recording just taken from union transfer? that's in the boots list
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:50 pm
by dansemanatee
rlly pissed I didn't know ab this broadcast I would've listened to it, hopefully someone uploads it somewhere soon. they apparently played bluish presser john and passerby what a setlist
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:29 pm
by AxeWorld
jfw7 wrote:
is the world cafe recording just taken from union transfer? that's in the boots list
lol yeah guess ur right. point is, genie's open sounds great. hope to hear TS2 in my lifetime.
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 8:17 pm
by wilandhugs
in the car with my mom and they're playing it on Sirius XM right now woohoo
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 8:58 pm
by coral lord
damn that verse works so perfectly in sea of light. love it
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:41 am
by dansemanatee
wilandhugs wrote:
in the car with my mom and they're playing it on Sirius XM right now woohoo
listened it on Sirius in the car with my mom too I she likes pester john cause they always play it but I think she thought the rest was boring
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:00 am
by roopn
noah rockin the crocs
prester john works so well live
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:59 pm
by Jam
I really dug that Genie's version but man Prester John live just blows everything out else of the water
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:26 pm
by dansemanatee
whole set was so good. prester john really does kick ass live and it was so cool to have a silver jews cover in the middle of genie's open, which they do so well live to begin with. loved hearing passer by too, one of the only skiffs songs i havent seen them play yet. and fucking bluish dude shit. that song works so well in the skiffs/skiffs 2 style. love panda's drums on that version. cannot wait for this goddamn album to come out whenever it does
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:42 am
by hypo's
fav band covering other fav band
life is good
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:14 pm
by r_o_s_s
New John Cale album is coming up in January with a feature from the boys!!
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:28 pm
by Tropic
Actress, Weyes, Sylvan Esso too. Cool
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:29 pm
by scrambledgreggs
Woah! Has the full band ever been credited as a feature before?
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 5:41 pm
by Fovrodi
I believe once, Arto Lindsay track City that reads. Right?
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:20 pm
by scrambledgreggs
oh interesting, I always that that was an AC song from a comp
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:25 pm
by andthephantom
Curious to see whether Wake My Door and Pandemic Dream #4 end up on Rainbow Bog and/or how much they anticipate what this album will sound like.
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:43 am
by lhtd
Is no one selling an OG Hollinndagain anymore? There used to always be 2-3 listed on Discogs and eBay. Now that I finally have some cash to spend there nowhere to be found
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:38 pm
by blindmowing
i kinda wish "Heads Hammock" was an AC song -- could hear some great Panda BGVs and Geo textures on that one too
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 3:07 pm
by dansemanatee
blindmowing wrote:
i kinda wish "Heads Hammock" was an AC song -- could hear some great Panda BGVs and Geo textures on that one too
totally feel that but i really like the way it sounds on down there. maybe my favorite track on that album if not ghost of books
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:46 pm
by scrambledgreggs
blindmowing wrote:
i kinda wish "Heads Hammock" was an AC song -- could hear some great Panda BGVs and Geo textures on that one too
Check out the live version from the Cows tour, they really amped it up
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:29 pm
by Fovrodi
That album owes so much to burial
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:04 pm
by Avey Tane
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:50 pm
by MrAirplane
Crack Box is one of the prizes for this UMAW raffle. Another prize is Heba Kadry will master one track for you. $15 per ticket, unlimited entries, closes Nov 15th.
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:29 pm
by blindmowing
thanks for the heads up! bought a few tickets
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:54 pm
by dansemanatee
don’t think i’ve ever seen any discussion on crack box on here. how do u guys feel ab it?
i personally really like it. i think the fact that it’s all mini-disc recordings is a cool representation of their early years and the role that minidiscs played in their music and there’s a lot of really cool stuff on here. ice cream factory is the obvious highlight for me, i don’t think that song gets talked about enough. it feels so ahead of it’s time. i love the other ark era material but that song feels like an early glimpse at their later work while also feeling like a culmination of all the stuff they had done beforehand. those synths at the end and avey’s vocals/lyrics remind me of spirit but that static rhythm and the way it builds up reminds me of their danse/hollindagain stuff.
was thinking the other day ab how cool it would be to get another compilation like this but i’d want them to do it in the same way they did crack box. like it doesn’t just feel like a demos compilation, the whole mini disc thing makes it feel like it serves more of a purpose. i don’t ever see them doing deluxe versions of albums and it’s not like they can just release all their demos and stuff on v/a compilations and stuff. really itching to hear the ark version of winter wonderland and sponge luke and stuff like that. makes you wonder how much stuff they’re sitting on that we don’t even know about.
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:31 pm
by Stan
Quite shit, worse than almost any boots, but the unique songs are worth hearing.
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:24 pm
by andthephantom
dansemanatee wrote:
ice cream factory is the obvious highlight for me, i don’t think that song gets talked about enough. it feels so ahead of it’s time. i love the other ark era material but that song feels like an early glimpse at their later work while also feeling like a culmination of all the stuff they had done beforehand. those synths at the end and avey’s vocals/lyrics remind me of spirit but that static rhythm and the way it builds up reminds me of their danse/hollindagain stuff.
The first half of Ice Cream Factory constantly feels like it's gonna burst into For Reverend Green. Is that the genealogy of FRG?
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:46 pm
by headroom)))
Crackbox is a nice compilation for "Ice Cream Factory," the freak out on "Do the Nurse," and early Young Prayer demos. Its cool/beautiful to see them develop their voice and craft as musicians.
I was hoping for some good Sung Tong artifacts, but nothing really grabbed me for what they chose for that era. There's a lot of good boots that are waaaayy better (Other Music show). Not sure why they chose those tracks, but I've been hoping for a volume 2 for ages.
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:50 am
by roopn
My favourite side of crack box is the campfire songs stuff. It's really delicate and sweet and beautiful. Really different in character from the actual campfire songs album because it feels much closer and intimate. Noah sounds so young on Jungle Heat and Hey Friend. "Happy Birthday Abby" in De Soto De Son is so sweet, and connects the recording nicely to many other live eras, as Avey never stopped giving birthday wishes to his sister at shows.
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:57 am
by ingenue
Personal opinion: Heba Kadry’s work on Time Skiffs is the least interesting aesthetic contribution to an Animal Collective record. Rusty Santos, Scott Colburn, even Ben Allen—all produced singular records that have few analogs. There’s just no sonic evidence that Heba Kadry even touched the record—there’s no grit, no dirt, no mystery. And, ultimately, it’s boring AF.
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:04 am
by Fovrodi
Mastering has no aesthetic demands? that's the point? there shouldn't be any fingerprints ugh i think I'm fucking done with this forum
Re: General The Animal Collective Talk (...cont'd)
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:15 am
by lhtd
The most charitable quality we might use to describe this mix is pleasant. I find that I have to tune my ears in such a way that I ignore the mix to enjoy the songs, which is antithetical to how I would approach literally every other Animal Collective output. One of their instruments is aesthetic space. They play with it so well, even in the records that are often scorned (CHz, PW, etc.). The Time Skiffs mix just seems apropos of the times: Hyperreal yet substance-less, well-to-do liberal mindedness ensconced in an atmosphere of guilt, a kind of cynical piety that's too depressive to be effective; harmless and devoid of character, uber individualistic under a guise of collectivism, clear and muddy, thick yet airy, the list goes on... it's like the mix tries to be this inclusive safe space that turns out feeling like a playpen inside a modern Starbucks interior. There's no where to even sit! It's supposed to be inviting but is itself the machine in form that the invitation for inclusivity as such defends against.
Although the 'animal' of this record is 'human' (which was also the talisman of PW?), this human is expressly both on-the-ground and neurotically dissociative. It's a kind of "let's get back to the basics that we never were" feel. Dads meeting up at Starbucks on a Saturday morning, glancing at the Bob Marley CD for sale at the cash register, thinking about how "we were the good news"...