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Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:40 am
by Hellomark
Would love to swap Ferry Lady for 50mg, but I'm not complaining. Great set. The "almost got me, almost got me" part of Song for Ariel is so fucking good.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 3:23 am
by Fovrodi
From the GQ profile.
wrote:
With and without Animal Collective, Lennox has been both warping his voice and improvising onstage for longer than Tiny Desk Concerts have existed; the rules that give the format its stripped-down intimacy—no vocal processing, relatively low volume, modest setups—spooked him. "“Any sort of unknown thing, unknown environment, I freak out about. I’m not a big fan of TV shows, radio sessions,” he admits later, then pauses, brow cocked. “But I don’t like to feel like I’m avoiding something because I’m scared, either. I’ll get real competitive with myself if I’m scared to do something.”"
Only seen a couple other videos of the band performing. How stripped back is everyone else's gear? Thought Rivka and/or Maria also had keyboards or do they really just operate one machine live?
Stan wrote:
Wonderful set. I adore this album.
Probably no surprise to anyone here that I've been diagnosed with autism and ADHD as an old c*** (44) but I think it'd influenced my relationship with AC over the years, in terms of rigidity and fulfilled/unfulfilled expectations and stuff. I love this band so much, and this forum, and the opportunity to discuss/proselytise how I feel about the band. Then Internet is changing, it's changed so much, and I'll be forever grateful for what we've been able to share here in such an open and intimate venue.
Sending lots of love to you all. I didn't tell anyone else about this shit apart from my wife and best mates because...well, because...
X
We've missed you Stan buddy
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:42 am
by roopn
Stan wrote:
Wonderful set. I adore this album.
Probably no surprise to anyone here that I've been diagnosed with autism and ADHD as an old c*** (44) but I think it'd influenced my relationship with AC over the years, in terms of rigidity and fulfilled/unfulfilled expectations and stuff. I love this band so much, and this forum, and the opportunity to discuss/proselytise how I feel about the band. Then Internet is changing, it's changed so much, and I'll be forever grateful for what we've been able to share here in such an open and intimate venue.
Sending lots of love to you all. I didn't tell anyone else about this shit apart from my wife and best mates because...well, because...
X
congrats Stan and glad you feel comfortable to share that here.
I am undiagnosed but have twigged for a while that my brain is working a little differently from a lot of people around me. I always felt seen by AC and PB's music in this way, a certain kinship in emotional experience and expression. I think a lot of fans feel the music speaking in that zone and it's a really valuable connection to have to a piece of art, and a natural starting point for a community like this to come into being. lots of love
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:46 am
by roopn
Fovrodi wrote:
From the GQ profile.
wrote:
With and without Animal Collective, Lennox has been both warping his voice and improvising onstage for longer than Tiny Desk Concerts have existed; the rules that give the format its stripped-down intimacy—no vocal processing, relatively low volume, modest setups—spooked him. "“Any sort of unknown thing, unknown environment, I freak out about. I’m not a big fan of TV shows, radio sessions,” he admits later, then pauses, brow cocked. “But I don’t like to feel like I’m avoiding something because I’m scared, either. I’ll get real competitive with myself if I’m scared to do something.”"
Only seen a couple other videos of the band performing. How stripped back is everyone else's gear? Thought Rivka and/or Maria also had keyboards or do they really just operate one machine live?
maybe rivka has an additional keyboard in the full setup but I'm not sure. as far as I can tell the tiny desk arrangements are no different to normal, they just played just quieter.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:57 pm
by awesome
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:59 pm
by preakness
roopn wrote:
Fovrodi wrote:
From the GQ profile.
wrote:
With and without Animal Collective, Lennox has been both warping his voice and improvising onstage for longer than Tiny Desk Concerts have existed; the rules that give the format its stripped-down intimacy—no vocal processing, relatively low volume, modest setups—spooked him. "“Any sort of unknown thing, unknown environment, I freak out about. I’m not a big fan of TV shows, radio sessions,” he admits later, then pauses, brow cocked. “But I don’t like to feel like I’m avoiding something because I’m scared, either. I’ll get real competitive with myself if I’m scared to do something.”"
Only seen a couple other videos of the band performing. How stripped back is everyone else's gear? Thought Rivka and/or Maria also had keyboards or do they really just operate one machine live?
maybe rivka has an additional keyboard in the full setup but I'm not sure. as far as I can tell the tiny desk arrangements are no different to normal, they just played just quieter.
Only difference i noticed in the tiny desk is no pedals. I think Tim uses a bass boost that comes in hard during the new parts of song for ariel. And noah doesnt seem to be using his chroma console or infinite jets for it either.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:15 am
by headroom)))
awesome wrote:
Those interviewers are def not my type of people, but great insights by PB on the album. I liked that he kinda laid out what the intention of the album was. And a year and a half after my last long term relationship, I can 1000% relate. Also love that he stood up for RHCP, haha
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 6:22 pm
by kinetic
https://www.instagram.com/p/DIt8iOmTfm7/
I don't live in LA but this would be majorly disappointing. 30 min afternoon panda bear set?

Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:24 pm
by coral lord
kinetic wrote:
why the fuck is peter bjorn and john getting nearly an hour
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 2:29 pm
by meys
kinetic wrote:
glad i didn’t pay money to go to this lmao. what a joke
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:11 pm
by hewasbeingstinky
What are y’all’s speculations about what the other B Sides will be? Last interview I think Noah said there’s 4 (which is exciting because in Jordan and Gregg’s pod they said just 2).
It’s already all but confirmed that Neverending Game re-recorded is one. I’m really hoping Song for Ariel redux is another. I wonder if they all could be interpolations of older work in the new sound? Which older songs would you like to here in the Grift production space?
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:09 am
by thelucky1
hewasbeingstinky wrote:
What are y’all’s speculations about what the other B Sides will be? Last interview I think Noah said there’s 4 (which is exciting because in Jordan and Gregg’s pod they said just 2).
It’s already all but confirmed that Neverending Game re-recorded is one. I’m really hoping Song for Ariel redux is another. I wonder if they all could be interpolations of older work in the new sound? Which older songs would you like to here in the Grift production space?
Oh, that is a really good question. I'm going to go with:
- Danger (seems like it was one of the Madrid songs)
- Mr. Noah (I feel like this one was a no brainer for the full band set up. I wonder if he'll play it on the west coast leg.)
- Butcher Baker (The main beat of this song is similar to Ferry Lady. I could envision a really cool transition from it to this.)
- I Know I Don't Know (This song, compositionally and lyrically, just kind of feels like it would belong on Sinister Grift.)
For the EP, I think Nevernding Game will 100% be on there. I also hope Virginia Tech will be on there. I really would like a CD and FLAC version of it.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:53 pm
by preacherben
coral lord wrote:
kinetic wrote:
why the fuck is peter bjorn and john getting nearly an hour
young folks hour long jam version
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:16 am
by jusswerjk
preacherben wrote:
coral lord wrote:
kinetic wrote:
why the fuck is peter bjorn and john getting nearly an hour
young folks hour long jam version
No way. I'm convinced something will pop up last minute...for the homies.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:16 pm
by preakness
I think hes gonna bring Alsatian Darn to the set. I've seen Maria, Tome, and Noah all post instagram stories using it multiple times in regards to upcoming shows.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:07 pm
by roopn
hope so!
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 10:41 pm
by coral lord
preacherben wrote:
coral lord wrote:
kinetic wrote:
why the fuck is peter bjorn and john getting nearly an hour
young folks hour long jam version
well in that case i would be all for it
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:18 am
by roopn
Sinister Grift
Side A - 10/10
Side B - 6/10
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:20 am
by blindmowing
heck no, Venom's In has maybe the best replay value of any song on the whole album because of how many directions his vocals go. Left in the Cold and Elegy are some of the most heartbreaking wandering sonic soundscapes he's recorded, and Defense slaps just for the Cindy Lee guitars alone, not to mention how we're left hearing Noah sing "Here I Come" to finish off the album, it's essential.
side A - 9/10
side B - 9/10
the first 5 songs on the album are undeniable pop perfection - Ferry Lady is my least favorite song on the album. side B goes through such a great emotional journey.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 6:53 am
by rohcti
Venom’s In has been growing on me… this song at Tiny Desk would have been amazing.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 2:40 am
by unrecordednight
i like the second half a lot but i unintentionally find myself gravitating towards the poppier front half
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 4:02 pm
by destiny
i think venoms in is my favorite of the record, guitars sound closest to the madrid demoes so it gives me nostalgia and best lyrics/delivery in the chorus actually destroys me. like one of the saddest panda/ac songs ever but its nice bc its a song of acceptance
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 3:38 am
by Stories and Games
tiny desk version of song for ariel is extremely good. have always kinda ignored this song bc i don't care for guys eyes at all but this is excellent and lovely
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 4:40 am
by Fritz
I'm on Side A. Anywhere But Here's bad reputation on this forum baffles me. I think it's better than both Left in the Cold and Elegy, two kinda whatever songs for me. It's a classic rock album move to have a ballad as your second song. Think of The Beautiful Ones. Love in Vain. Something. AND it's got a spoken word component I can't understand? Fantastic.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 10:29 am
by Stories and Games
does anywhere but here actually have a bad rep here? was an instant fav for me, weird
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 10:55 am
by thelucky1
Stories and Games wrote:
does anywhere but here actually have a bad rep here? was an instant fav for me, weird
He's talking about the numbers game, I think. Anywhere But Here has the lowest score currently.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 3:43 pm
by preacherben
i'm a big fan of the album, i don't think i'd remove any songs from the record if I had the choice. but the numbers game makes monsters of good men, and turns bad men into demons.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 3:44 pm
by preacherben
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 4:11 pm
by blindmowing
Anywhere but Here and Venom's In are the biggest growers for me. They were probably my 7th and 8th favorites on first few listens, and now they're the most integral and special parts of the album. Emotional depth, really strong songwriting, great tunes.
50mg and Just as Well were the immediate crowd-pleasing hits and they're still great, but I can dig my teeth into the former two more.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 11:39 am
by grocerystore
Finished my boot from Rewire april 6th. Hope you like it. Later I'll be cutting it and putting it somewhere (archive maybe)
Great show, panda had a mustache, hard to see because of the angle but if you look close enough you can spot it.
Don't know how to embed here
https://youtu.be/wpAjyqIe18U?si=kUclabY7wHIpeuog
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 3:11 pm
by thelucky1
grocerystore wrote:
Finished my boot from Rewire april 6th. Hope you like it. Later I'll be cutting it and putting it somewhere (archive maybe)
Great show, panda had a mustache, hard to see because of the angle but if you look close enough you can spot it.
Don't know how to embed here
https://youtu.be/wpAjyqIe18U?si=kUclabY7wHIpeuog
Amazing boot! This is one the clearest I've heard.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 6:01 pm
by 2ndsunmusic
grocerystore wrote:
Finished my boot from Rewire april 6th. Hope you like it. Later I'll be cutting it and putting it somewhere (archive maybe)
Great show, panda had a mustache, hard to see because of the angle but if you look close enough you can spot it.
Don't know how to embed here
https://youtu.be/wpAjyqIe18U?si=kUclabY7wHIpeuog
Amazing recording thank you dude!!
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 1:43 pm
by Alcohol
Josh did an interview with Tape-Op talking about recording
Sinister Grift and much more:
https://tapeop.com/podcast/episode-104-josh-deakin-dibb
It's on Spotify too.
Edit: Josh, if you're around, would you share some of the go-to plug-ins you kept returning to for
Sinister Grift? What does your 2-bus look like?
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 1:50 am
by headroom)))
Awesome, love Tape Op! The Mac Demarco and Deerhoof interviews were super inspiring to me many years back.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 8:39 am
by kinetic
grocerystore wrote:
Finished my boot from Rewire april 6th. Hope you like it. Later I'll be cutting it and putting it somewhere (archive maybe)
Great show, panda had a mustache, hard to see because of the angle but if you look close enough you can spot it.
Don't know how to embed here
https://youtu.be/wpAjyqIe18U?si=kUclabY7wHIpeuog
this is THE one. thank you it sounds amazing
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 1:57 pm
by preakness
preakness wrote:
I think hes gonna bring Alsatian Darn to the set. I've seen Maria, Tome, and Noah all post instagram stories using it multiple times in regards to upcoming shows.
Looks like he busted out AD last night
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 6:59 pm
by Alcohol
headroom))) wrote:
Awesome, love Tape Op! The Mac Demarco and Deerhoof interviews were super inspiring to me many years back.
Same. The interview with Gustav Ejstes of Dungen about the recording of
Ta det lugnt—it's prob 20 years old at this point—is mindblowing. I think he said the kit was mic'd with a single 57.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sat May 17, 2025 11:34 pm
by dio
preakness wrote:
preakness wrote:
I think hes gonna bring Alsatian Darn to the set. I've seen Maria, Tome, and Noah all post instagram stories using it multiple times in regards to upcoming shows.
Looks like he busted out AD last night
it was track 2 and probably my highlight for me last night in Denver. Even more than Song for Ariel and Praise.... god it was gorgeous. Sounded kinda like live skiffs/iin era live AC in that it was kinda dub/dad-rock ified in coolest way possible. Gorgeous, massive and groovy
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 2:42 pm
by preakness
dio wrote:
preakness wrote:
preakness wrote:
I think hes gonna bring Alsatian Darn to the set. I've seen Maria, Tome, and Noah all post instagram stories using it multiple times in regards to upcoming shows.
Looks like he busted out AD last night
it was track 2 and probably my highlight for me last night in Denver. Even more than Song for Ariel and Praise.... god it was gorgeous. Sounded kinda like live skiffs/iin era live AC in that it was kinda dub/dad-rock ified in coolest way possible. Gorgeous, massive and groovy
Super jealous. It has always been a favorite of mine
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 1:32 am
by dio
Double post