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Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 3:41 am
by speen
Yeah, I was also thinking about how much 50mg feels like a stewart copeland beat

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 3:57 pm
by awesome
two new (?) interviews:

beatsperminute

far out

amusing response from the far out one:
wrote:
13. As 2024 brought about an Oasis reunion, who do you want to see reunite in 2025?

“Spacemen 3.”


Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 6:41 pm
by meys
awesome wrote:
two new (?) interviews:

beatsperminute

far out

amusing response from the far out one:
wrote:
13. As 2024 brought about an Oasis reunion, who do you want to see reunite in 2025?

“Spacemen 3.”


what's pete up to :eyes:

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:05 pm
by preakness
Just caught Barcelona show. He was locked in. Whole band sounded phenom. Great setlist, will post on setlist.fm later. Great crowd, lots of fun. The more shows they play the tighter they get

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/panda-be ... 0006b.html

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 10:48 pm
by preakness
wrote:
15. John or Paul?

“No shade but John.”

Funny because I think many people would agree he’s the Paul of Animal Collective

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:19 am
by foxtrot
preakness wrote:
wrote:
15. John or Paul?

“No shade but John.”

Funny because I think many people would agree he’s the Paul of Animal Collective

Yeh, he's absolutely the Paul of AC.

Panda McCartney
Avey Lennon
Deakin Harrison &
Geologist Star

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:34 am
by Enn Eye
$34,000 speakers is something

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 9:58 am
by roopn
Instagram clips of this euro leg of the tour look and sound so good

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:23 pm
by Dallou
It was !

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:57 pm
by thelucky1
The crowd at the European shows seems so much better. Not as much audience talking and annoying Toro y Moi fans.

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 4:31 pm
by rohcti
Havent seen this posted yet, here’s part 2 of Sinister Grift BTS:

https://www.instagram.com/share/BAHd61ymoY

New version of Never Ending Game?!

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 4:53 pm
by Fovrodi
In the recent Musician & a Filmmaker interview PB confirmed they recorded a new version of Neverending Game, however, he's not sure if he's going to release it or keep it strictly a live thing

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:05 pm
by Slippi's Applesauce
cool super in depth interview here, deakin talks a bit about the bendy guitar sound too:

https://toherefromhere.substack.com/p/i ... irect=true

I worked with Walsh for like a day. I brought him in and worked on writing parts for “50mg” and “Black & White”—or that's the same one, “50mg.” Anyway, the two other songs that he made it on [“Venom’s In” and “Left in the Cold”].

It's definitely come a long way from that initial performance where it's just bendy guitar and a bit of a beat.

I'm volunteering this, though on some level I shouldn't—it struck me well after we'd finished the record that I had heard that recording once, but I had not fixated on it and it never came up. I didn't think to listen to it prior to working on this record. I know that there are fans of his that have really revered that show specifically, and I've even seen some people initially in responses to some of these mixes go like, Oh man, like I missed that, you know? And it seems like they come around ultimately, but a part of me is like, What would have happened if I had listened to that recording before we started working on stuff? And would I have picked out things and be like, Hey man, I think you had a sound for this one, let's get that back, or something.

I mean, I knew that bendy sound was something that he'd been playing around with and we certainly talked about it. I think we probably even did mess around with a little bit of that kind of stuff in the studio, but I've found on almost every record I've ever worked on, maybe there's exceptions with Animal Collective, but I'd say for the most part, you always go into a recording session with some sort of preconceived idea of what you think you want the record to sound like, or you want the palette to be, or how you think things are going to fit together. I think—I'm sure with exceptions, but I have found often and definitely in this case—it was really important to allow the thing that was trying to come to be without forcing it. There were a lot of ideas that we had that were very, very clear, either on Noah's part or on my part of like, it's definitely going to go in this direction, then we just found ourselves a certain point going, I guess it's not going to go in that direction. We just found something else.

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:47 pm
by roopn
really good interview thanks for linking!

edit
nice job howsoever :)

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2025 11:02 pm
by howsoever
Thanks for sharing Slippi! It was really great to chat with Josh and I appreciated him going in-depth on the gear and production process. I left the little bit of him calling 50mg “Black & White” for the folks here—fun to hear about any old codenames for songs. Hope you guys like the read!

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 8:02 am
by marmoacolazionereloaded
Seen PB two days ago in Barca it blows me my mind. I was a bit worried about the live band set up, but it was great cause the rock band (in comparison to the past concert I've seen) gives me so much energy and rapture. And I find myself screaming "you'll trip up the wayyyyyyy" wildly. It's a totally different experience. Noah it's frankly great, a super cool 50 years old guy who became like a fusion between Willie Nelson , lee scratch Perry and Brian Wilson. Also it seems to me it was the start of something...the band plays much very well than the first videos, the try new pattern, new things, they start to know themselves as musician and build a chemicals. It wouldn't be a surprise for me to see the band evolve more complex sonically even in a further future of a next album.
Only two bitterness:
- just one song in the encore
- if there is a drum on the stage, and PB it's not behind it it always makes me sad.
Long live to the lord Panda Bear
I love every moment of it
He is the GOAT

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 8:10 am
by roopn
lmao @ rounding up his age

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 8:12 am
by roopn
sounds sick tho I really hope I get an opportunity to see this line up.

I wonder if the band will exist for another album cycle (which let's be real is five years away). hope it does to see how it might evolve but also I'd be sad if solo PB live set up never happened again... surely not right

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:22 am
by marmoacolazionereloaded
roopn wrote:
sounds sick tho I really hope I get an opportunity to see this line up.

I wonder if the band will exist for another album cycle (which let's be real is five years away). hope it does to see how it might evolve but also I'd be sad if solo PB live set up never happened again... surely not right

"Stay there while I move...stay scared while I improve" 😂
I was a bit worried even I, but the live energy gives you a completely different perspective on this. It's something that you can't catch completely with the videos. When you are there, you can feel the energy and the warmth of the real instruments in compare with the old PB solo lives. And you want to jump, signs...it's really cool. A bit more like an AnCo show (just as an experience obviously). Also it's a completely different thing from the record (which is also a completely different thing) and from what he does in the past. All the songs are different, they play Selfish Gene In the most weirder and crazier way.
He is the fucking GOAT

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 4:24 pm
by Fovrodi
May have been lost in the mix but Deakin confirmed there are plans for a live album

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 4:56 pm
by awesome
Fovrodi wrote:
May have been lost in the mix but Deakin confirmed there are plans for a live album

SG wast the last album in panda's domino contract, right? wonder if they could just throw the live album up on bandcamp whenever they're ready with it

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 5:00 pm
by lhtd
Dear lord i hope that’s what happens

Down with the domino era… for pb at least!

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 3:31 am
by Fovrodi
Imagine if PB signed with Warp records

Also, hate the phrase life hack but I think it applies here. I put the Tame Impala station on at work and only faved PB songs (harmless bc the rest of the usual rotation will still come on). I draw a hard line, I only skip songs never dislike

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 10:50 am
by Tropic
Fovrodi wrote:
Imagine if PB signed with Warp records

Need this

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 11:10 am
by Dallou
howsoever wrote:
Thanks for sharing Slippi! It was really great to chat with Josh and I appreciated him going in-depth on the gear and production process. I left the little bit of him calling 50mg “Black & White” for the folks here—fun to hear about any old codenames for songs. Hope you guys like the read!

was there too my friend !

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 1:49 am
by Stories and Games
wonderful interview with deak thanks so much :] i really do love listening to that guy talk, just extremely thoughtful

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 5:12 am
by Fovrodi
Mournful scream that closes Ends Meet haunts me

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 9:01 am
by marmoacolazionereloaded
thelucky1 wrote:
The crowd at the European shows seems so much better. Not as much audience talking and annoying Toro y Moi fans.

In Barca there was a super atmosphere...very warmth reaction. Super standing ovation at the end.

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 9:03 am
by marmoacolazionereloaded
preakness wrote:
wrote:
15. John or Paul?

“No shade but John.”

Funny because I think many people would agree he’s the Paul of Animal Collective

Really? Why? I would have said the opposite...the tone of the voice... Paul is the baroques side of the Beatles, is the one who made the most complex songs... Lennon is the one the stay more simple..

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 9:15 am
by marmoacolazionereloaded
preakness wrote:
wrote:
15. John or Paul?

“No shade but John.”

Funny because I think many people would agree he’s the Paul of Animal Collective

Really? Why? I would have said the opposite...the tone of the voice... Paul is the baroques side of the Beatles, is the one who made the most complex songs... Lennon is the one the stay more simple..

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 9:31 am
by marmoacolazionereloaded
I find it astonishing how extremely weird and beautiful the “again, again, again” part in Praise is. It clearly refers to something with a toxic, addictive aftertaste in a destructive relationship, and yet it’s delivered with that shiny sound and melody. But deep down, you can feel that it’s truly broken.

Even a minute before, when he says “I'm movin' and I'm watchin' how you do”, it’s a reference to something toxic—he is both inebriated by it and a victim of it. It reminds me of Phantom Thread by Paul Thomas Anderson. That’s the sinister trap of Grift.

I mean, obviously, it’s nothing new in AnCo/PB’s music to contrast bright melodies with melancholic lyrics, but I think here it’s taken to another level. Maybe it resonates with me because I’m going through something similar right now, but I think it’s a stunning and incredibly strange piece of art.

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 11:45 am
by roopn
marmoacolazionereloaded wrote:
preakness wrote:
wrote:
15. John or Paul?

“No shade but John.”

Funny because I think many people would agree he’s the Paul of Animal Collective

Really? Why? I would have said the opposite...the tone of the voice... Paul is the baroques side of the Beatles, is the one who made the most complex songs... Lennon is the one the stay more simple..

in terms of the sound of his voice PB definitely sounds the most like Paul. they sing clear and open tones from the throat. and I think they have a similar melodic sensibility - noah could do a pretty good Eleanor Rigby for example.

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:35 pm
by rohcti
Fovrodi wrote:
Mournful scream that closes Ends Meet haunts me

Is that not whistling? 🤔

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 5:11 pm
by jerry wonder
marmoacolazionereloaded wrote:
preakness wrote:
wrote:
15. John or Paul?

“No shade but John.”

Funny because I think many people would agree he’s the Paul of Animal Collective

Really? Why? I would have said the opposite...the tone of the voice... Paul is the baroques side of the Beatles, is the one who made the most complex songs... Lennon is the one the stay more simple..

This is what I wanted to express but didnt know how to say. Noah's voice is similar in timbre to both Paul and John's voices at different times, possibly closer to John earlier in his career. And Avey has certainly held the more traditional song writing structures but that has shifted over time especially with SG out there now.

But also, we don't NEED to fit them into a Lennon-McCartney paradigm lol

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 5:13 pm
by Fovrodi
Could be, also thought it could be a bird or animal field recording

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 5:54 pm
by thelucky1
marmoacolazionereloaded wrote:
preakness wrote:
wrote:
15. John or Paul?

“No shade but John.”

Funny because I think many people would agree he’s the Paul of Animal Collective

Really? Why? I would have said the opposite...the tone of the voice... Paul is the baroques side of the Beatles, is the one who made the most complex songs... Lennon is the one the stay more simple..

Have you heard Lennon's solo stuff, though? Dude can scream like hell. I'm pretty sure Avey even mentioned being inspired by Lennon's solo stuff.

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:59 pm
by Fovrodi
Avey from Painting With AMA
wrote:
The screaming side of my singing is something that developed over time and seemed natural, especially in the live setting. I don't think it's effected my voice. I think it's inspired by other people who make screaming sound pretty as well. John Lennon, Kurt Cobain, the four tops.


Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 11:57 pm
by we<3ourhive
Fovrodi wrote:
Avey from Painting With AMA
wrote:
The screaming side of my singing is something that developed over time and seemed natural, especially in the live setting. I don't think it's effected my voice. I think it's inspired by other people who make screaming sound pretty as well. John Lennon, Kurt Cobain, the four tops.


When is anco going to make a screamo/skramz album lol

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 2:40 am
by destiny
dats chz or BERRY Jam

Re: SINISTER GRIFT

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 8:32 pm
by we<3ourhive
trueeee. also that one part of hey light