Collected Animals

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:55 pm**

jusswerjk wrote:

opposite field wrote:
Now I just have to stop myself from thinking about the lost all analog live recorded double LP of my dreams that we will never get.

Dude. It's all I can think about. I'm with ya.

I feel like it’s going to be their most emotional release.

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:59 pm**

What does "no plugins" mean exactly? Like a midi operating thing or something? I thought they recorded Strawberry Jam completely in analog too

Posted: **Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:53 pm**

Elevado uses only physical/analog effects in all his work. that means no reverb, chorus, echo plugins etc... it's all physical boxes and effects.

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:18 am**

^yup plug-ins typically just means digital effects or instruments. that’s usually how AC records anyways, it’s all hardware rather than software, actual fx pedals or boxes or rack units or whatever rather than plugins inside the computer

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:57 am**

do people itt think this means they have scrapped/are scrapping the already-recorded versions of these jams?

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:18 am**

What do you mean? They recorded these songs in full for the first time last winter.

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:26 am**

Yea we just learned now that this Elvado guy was involved

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:48 am**

oh i see i thought they were (re)recording now my b

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:14 am**

Do you guys think Tim Koh and Lizzi Bougatsos contributed anything? They were there per some IG photos no? TS was the first AC album since SJ they didn't have guest musicians on and I'd imagine that was bc of the logistical nightmare of bringing more people in the fold

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:20 am**

who were the guest musicians on MPP?

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:25 am**

MPP didn’t have any but I will gladly argue that without Ben Allen that album turns out completely different.

For these new tracks we at least know the guy from L’Rain plays sax on defeat. They were probably just hanging out with the GGD crew cuz they’re New York based.

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:27 am**

Er, Heather McIntosh played cello on Graze and Bleed; MPP era at least

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:02 pm**

Fovrodi wrote:

Er, Heather McIntosh played cello on Graze and Bleed; MPP era at least

Did not know this! Incredibly cool to have that Elephant 6 connection. Still down to argue about benny "5th beatle" allen and his influence on the band though any time

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:44 pm**

When’s the last time AC recorded something analog?

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:35 pm**

Cooper wrote:

When’s the last time AC recorded something analog?

Campfire Songs. Minidisc is pure analog, right?

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:57 pm**

Hellomark wrote:

I need this warm analog Gem and I in my life

It was meant to be!!

No digital plug-ins means that story Avey posted a while back was probably for something else, right? Looked like they were playing around in a DAW in that.

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:23 pm**

hunkswithguns wrote:

Cooper wrote:
When’s the last time AC recorded something analog?

Campfire Songs. Minidisc is pure analog, right?

Time Skiffs could have analog elements or mixed to tape. Recording to tape and mixing "out of the box" / without a computer or DAW are different things. Unsure if they've ever excluded computers entirely... they may also record to tape here but then record to Pro Tools to sequence and edit.

Posted: **Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:51 pm**

lhtd wrote:

hunkswithguns wrote:
Cooper wrote:
When’s the last time AC recorded something analog?

Campfire Songs. Minidisc is pure analog, right?

Time Skiffs could have analog elements or mixed to tape. Recording to tape and mixing "out of the box" / without a computer or DAW are different things. Unsure if they've ever excluded computers entirely... they may also record to tape here but then record to Pro Tools to sequence and edit.

The master could always be done in DAW too-- I think that thing Avey was working on could've been Skiffs 2 related if that's the case then. Seems to me like Elevado and PB were mostly recording and touching up in that vid so.

Hell the mastering might not even be done considering they still don't know the release format (or, so they say).

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:04 am**

I feel like it’s only special as an analog piece if the sounds themselves are recorded to tape, right?

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:20 am**

hunkswithguns wrote:

Cooper wrote:
When’s the last time AC recorded something analog?

Campfire Songs. Minidisc is pure analog, right?

Minidiscs are a digital format...??? Unless I'm missing something?

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:07 am**

Mini-disc is digital, yes.

My understanding of the Russ ig post was that he was fiddling with mic placement and getting levels.

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:38 am**

Not strictly AC but wasn't Cows recorded to tape?

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:06 am**

rohcti wrote:

Not strictly AC but wasn't Cows recorded to tape?

Yeah avey used an 8-track to record that I'm pretty sure.

Cooper wrote:

I feel like it’s only special as an analog piece if the sounds themselves are recorded to tape, right?

skiffs was recorded digitally and then I believe mixed analogue by marta salogni. digital/analogue hybrid processes can add a lot a mix, though I couldn't explain any specifics haha. Marta was in a podcast a few months ago talking about her process of using tape at length, though ac wasn't discussed specifically

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:49 pm**

Side note and should probably be in the live section but for any London heads, AC have just been announced for Pitchfork London. Playing a show on November 11th at Hackney Church with support from Jenny Hval and Marina Herlop. Tickets on sale tomorrow (Fri 1st) at 10am local time. If anybody has a presale code for Dice please lemme know!

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:54 pm**

This red bull interview with Russel is long but interesting. https://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/lec ... -your-mind

Seems like he really tries to avoid digital at all if possible and tries to only use pro-tools to edit if he really needs to so I think there's a good chance TS 2 will be mixed analog. Not sure what will have to happen with mastering for different formats.

Posted: **Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:26 pm**

A lot of studios will record to tape, then digitize it and throw the tracks in Pro Tools for easy editing/punching in (like opposite field said above). I know some engineers (I can't speak on Russell Elevado's workflow) will send whatever audio to an outboard piece of gear (reverb, delay, compressor etc), and then record the effects signal back onto tape (and then into pro tools)

Here's a video of him in studio going over how he adds delay to D'Angelo's drums - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB6kGF13hxA

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:27 pm**

Hash wrote:

hunkswithguns wrote:
Cooper wrote:
When’s the last time AC recorded something analog?

Campfire Songs. Minidisc is pure analog, right?

Minidiscs are a digital format...??? Unless I'm missing something?

That was the joke...ahhh I'm gettin' rusty.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:38 pm**

hahah aww lol

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:41 pm**

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:30 am**

If a digital format doesn’t go beyond the window of perceptible quality difference then I’d consider it analog. Like 360p YouTube videos are analog lol

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:11 am**

Cooper wrote:

If a digital format doesn’t go beyond the window of perceptible quality difference then I’d consider it analog. Like 360p YouTube videos are analog lol

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:46 am**

hunkswithguns wrote:

Cooper wrote:
If a digital format doesn’t go beyond the window of perceptible quality difference then I’d consider it analog. Like 360p YouTube videos are analog lol

this is the only position one can take to get audiophiles to shut the fuck up

Posted: **Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:05 pm**

That's like the exact opposite of what I'd say lol.

Like at the highest qualities analogue and digital become indistinguishable, but low quality analogue and digital are quite distinct from each other.

Posted: **Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:23 pm**

I believe most people use “analog” to signify hypnagogic pop

Posted: **Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:08 am**

Cooper wrote:

I believe most people use “analog” to signify hypnagogic pop

Analog just means wet I think. that's why digital is Electric and Analog is wooden. Because if wooden gets wet it smells bad and that's good

Posted: **Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:00 am**

I need this fucking album

Posted: **Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:07 am**

wilandhugs wrote:

Cooper wrote:
I believe most people use “analog” to signify hypnagogic pop

Analog just means wet I think. that's why digital is Electric and Analog is wooden. Because if wooden gets wet it smells bad and that's good

FEEL ON1NE!!! wrote:

I need this fucking album

for real. the news this is likely an all-analgue production actually has given me renewed excitement for this. If the album's sound is comparable to d'angelo records it's gonna be so deep and warm and gooooood

Posted: **Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:04 am**

I would love them to re-record Skiffs with this setup, kind of like NERD did with their debut album. Just a kind of 'hey Russell while we're here...' Would be great.

Posted: **Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:47 am**

The Gem and I drum intro is so great, I know Magicians and Defeat are the true greats on this album but I'm most hyped to hear how Gem comes out.

Posted: **Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:54 am**

Stan wrote:

I would love them to re-record Skiffs with this setup, kind of like NERD did with their debut album. Just a kind of 'hey Russell while we're here...' Would be great.

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