Collected Animals

i also like the album version more but mostly because i love the vocoded robot voice so much

Guys.

Is there a version of Acid Wash knocking around with the live 'oohs' put back in the bridge?

It would make my life.

Hey gang!

Fixed a few snaps and crackles and pops on my Reaper Madness mix...feeling very solid about it! If any want to listen I would be much obliged!

lotta love

https://soundcloud.com/walkedlikeadog/reaper-madness

After all this time I think I can conclude that I prefer the album version of crosswords to the EP mix, which I expect puts me in the minority. The album version operates on a broader range of frequencies to tickle my ear, and while the EP mix is bassier, I feel it doesn't actually hit any harder. Both are great of course, just thought I'd share my thoughts after getting used to the songs, letting them settle in.

Wurd .
U n me both.....
As it was to be a single , Domino wanted a mix without the chewy vocalsynth sound
I like that version too , but the OG drips the juice...

just receive my crosswords lp
domino really made zero effort to promote Lisbon Zoo, not even in the vinyl theres anything wrote about it... if you are not on CA i don't know how you are suppose to know about this track

It was an after thought . Once i mixed it , Noah approved it ,
But it was thought to be a dead end until that .
It may be bcuz of that sample that Domino went very soft on it......

what exactly is the sample?

the drums are from Jimi Hendrix - Little Miss Lover (RIP Mitch Mitchell)

ahh

roopn wrote:

After all this time I think I can conclude that I prefer the album version of crosswords to the EP mix, which I expect puts me in the minority. The album version operates on a broader range of frequencies to tickle my ear, and while the EP mix is bassier, I feel it doesn't actually hit any harder. Both are great of course, just thought I'd share my thoughts after getting used to the songs, letting them settle in.

Wurd .
U n me both.....
As it was to be a single , Domino wanted a mix without the chewy vocalsynth sound
I like that version too , but the OG drips the juice...

Interesting. Did Domino have a lot of input on how the GR traxx were mixed?

Sonic boom wrote:

roopn wrote:

After all this time I think I can conclude that I prefer the album version of crosswords to the EP mix, which I expect puts me in the minority. The album version operates on a broader range of frequencies to tickle my ear, and while the EP mix is bassier, I feel it doesn't actually hit any harder. Both are great of course, just thought I'd share my thoughts after getting used to the songs, letting them settle in.

Wurd .
U n me both.....
As it was to be a single , Domino wanted a mix without the chewy vocalsynth sound
I like that version too , but the OG drips the juice...

Interesting. Did Domino have a lot of input on how the GR traxx were mixed?

I wouldn't say a lot , by any measure
But , yes , they're part of the process and have relevant opinions ....
....ofcourse.....they're very successful at what they do....
- and no-one knows for sure .....its all educated guesses....
....and all added riches for those that deserve i guess ....

I go back and forth but at the moment the album version is doing it for me. The beat seems louder in the og mix. The bubbly synth in the ep version is amazing though.

baconwizard wrote:

Sonic boom wrote:

roopn wrote:

After all this time I think I can conclude that I prefer the album version of crosswords to the EP mix, which I expect puts me in the minority. The album version operates on a broader range of frequencies to tickle my ear, and while the EP mix is bassier, I feel it doesn't actually hit any harder. Both are great of course, just thought I'd share my thoughts after getting used to the songs, letting them settle in.

Wurd .
U n me both.....
As it was to be a single , Domino wanted a mix without the chewy vocalsynth sound
I like that version too , but the OG drips the juice...

Interesting. Did Domino have a lot of input on how the GR traxx were mixed?

I wouldn't say a lot , by any measure
But , yes , they're part of the process and have relevant opinions ....
....ofcourse.....they're very successful at what they do....
- and no-one knows for sure .....its all educated guesses....
....and all added riches for those that deserve i guess ....

wow that's crazy to me that they would have a say on the creative output on artists. i would think it would be cool to hear opinions (and respect them) but to be told things had to be done would really bother me as an artist.

how different do you think the album would have been had it only been yours and noah's decisions?

would it be worth a special edition "director's cut"?

based on what sonic said, it doesnt really sound like domino is forcing them to do anything. just more a part of the feedback process, giving suggestions for how the songs could be honed or embellished or whatever. domino seem like some cool dudes, not like execs in suits forcing artists to do certain things.

i didn't take it as very bad, but if they want a different mix to release as a single and you have to make a different mix for a single, that doesn't sound like a joint decision. although letting them have the mix they like on the album is. Im sure it is a give and take, but as an artist, personally, id want full control over my art and what is representing me.

I am not shit talking domino at all here. obviously I trust and respect NL and SB with the utmost!

Sonic boom wrote:

baconwizard wrote:

Sonic boom wrote:

roopn wrote:

After all this time I think I can conclude that I prefer the album version of crosswords to the EP mix, which I expect puts me in the minority. The album version operates on a broader range of frequencies to tickle my ear, and while the EP mix is bassier, I feel it doesn't actually hit any harder. Both are great of course, just thought I'd share my thoughts after getting used to the songs, letting them settle in.

Wurd .
U n me both.....
As it was to be a single , Domino wanted a mix without the chewy vocalsynth sound
I like that version too , but the OG drips the juice...

Interesting. Did Domino have a lot of input on how the GR traxx were mixed?

I wouldn't say a lot , by any measure
But , yes , they're part of the process and have relevant opinions ....
....ofcourse.....they're very successful at what they do....
- and no-one knows for sure .....its all educated guesses....
....and all added riches for those that deserve i guess ....

wow that's crazy to me that they would have a say on the creative output on artists. i would think it would be cool to hear opinions (and respect them) but to be told things had to be done would really bother me as an artist.

how different do you think the album would have been had it only been yours and noah's decisions?

would it be worth a special edition "director's cut"?

If u think about it ... Go on !
.... Why would you work with a label and expect them not to have a say ???
I can tell you Noah does it EXACTLY as he wants .
But only a fool wants a partner ( Domino) tied to them but gagged ....
A smart person listens to everyones opinion they trust , then decide if it
changes anything or not .....sometimes its discounted....sometimes its taken onboard
W crosswords there was zero to be lost in doing a new mix featuring differant elements ..
More ore for the picking ...

Everything i've worked on with Noah is all his calls ultimately ......Domino forced nothing
on us .... It aint like that ...
Have a great weakened xpk

i didn't take it as very bad, but if they want a different mix to release as a single and you have to make a different mix for a single, that doesn't sound like a joint decision. although letting them have the mix they like on the album is. Im sure it is a give and take, but as an artist, personally, id want full control over my art and what is representing me.

I am not shit talking domino at all here. obviously I trust and respect NL and SB with the utmost!

All joints are decisions ....
All decisions are joint ....If Noah approves.
Were all onboard because were passionate about his music & him as a super sweet dude...
Domino opened up the pocket book uber wide for this - to your benefit i feel ...
They are as passionate as you ....
& we all work as a team ....
Aint no hateing to be skating ...... Xpk

dervish wrote:

i didn't take it as very bad, but if they want a different mix to release as a single and you have to make a different mix for a single, that doesn't sound like a joint decision. although letting them have the mix they like on the album is. Im sure it is a give and take, but as an artist, personally, id want full control over my art and what is representing me.

I am not shit talking domino at all here. obviously I trust and respect NL and SB with the utmost!

All joints are decisions ....
All decisions are joint ....If Noah approves.
Were all onboard because were passionate about his music & him as a super sweet dude...
Domino opened up the pocket book uber wide for this - to your benefit i feel ...
They are as passionate as you ....
& we all work as a team ....
Aint no hateing to be skating ...... Xpk

This. I really appreciate how much we got from u 'n Panda this time... it's really amazing! This release will definitely go down in my book as one of the greatest. Thanks 4 everything Pete!

I'm not hating at all! I'm super appreciative. trust me!

I'm always fascinated by the behind the scenes stuff, so thanks!

I'm not hating at all! I'm super appreciative. trust me!

I'm always fascinated by the behind the scenes stuff, so thanks!

anytime !

That's what separates the men from the boys: ego. When you become a professional musician, you have to be willing to work with others and not hold so tight to your creations. Like Pete said, be willing to take suggestions but confident in your artistic decisions. The same could be said for releasing art as a product. Any artist could create and keep it to themselves but to release it to the world takes strength because you're letting everyone who comes in contact with your art a judge of your work. That can be a hard pill to swallow if you don't have thick skin. Confidence is key.

That's what separates the men from the boys: ego. When you become a professional musician, you have to be willing to work with others and not hold so tight to your creations. Like Pete said, be willing to take suggestions but confident in your artistic decisions. The same could be said for releasing art as a product. Any artist could create and keep it to themselves but to release it to the world takes strength because you're letting everyone who comes in contact with your art a judge of your work. That can be a hard pill to swallow if you don't have thick skin. Confidence is key.

yeah......
Noah is a super generous collaborateur . and yr right the key is confidence ....
he puts himself out on a limb in a very generous way , the result being everyone feeling involved and ultimately a much better cluster of inter-related angles .
you gotta open yourself up to let everything good come thru .
......then editeditedit with your gut feeling......
many times that beggets the best results
- if someone else is gonna come with a differant angle & sometimes , its much better than what u had imagined ......why not , eh ?
....Its also about working with people who compliment what you do & realising that.

I might go so far to say that Noah & I are chalk & cheese ......ha
we operate very differantly , but with a mutual respect and understanding that benefits the aim .
we ofcourse have a lot in common , humour particularly perhaps , and a passion for sound & melody - but I think its the differances that enrich our friendship & wurk the most......
we both have egos ofcourse .
mine might've been smashed a few times more , but its like mercury - it'll re-assemble all too quickly....
we work on it ...and we hope we evolve ....
one of Noah's messages he wanted to get over in this lp , but didnt want to say in these exact words was
' GET OVER YOURSELF '
meaning - supress the ego , fight the natural urges to put yourself first ......
I think thats a prescient message for all times ? hope its goo xpk

absolutely! the reason i'm so curious probably is because i am an artist for work. i am a art supervisor technically, do design and managing some designers in advertising. so i know full well what it is like to collaborate with people above and below your skill set, and everyone brings something to the table. we check our egos at the door everyday knowing that what we create as a team will be better in the end than anyone will do alone. that is not a question. at all.

what gets frustrating is when the client starts art directing without knowing what they are doing, aside from listing their leg on the job, so to speak. so i was super curious about that end of the relationship as far as domino goes. and it's very clear it it isn't like that (thankfully!)

i love hearing about what goes into stuff and obviously a huuuuge fan of NL and of course, SB and AC.

so when does that director's cut hit the streets?

CW artwork makes me think about lemon juice and carrots

so when does that director's cut hit the streets?

I thought you guys already did that !

yeah we have the fanmade edits, plus so much more Greaper stuff. at this point I just want new AC

Love reading the nuggets of wisdom PK

yeah......
Noah is a super generous collaborateur . and yr right the key is confidence ....
he puts himself out on a limb in a very generous way , the result being everyone feeling involved and ultimately a much better cluster of inter-related angles .
you gotta open yourself up to let everything good come thru .
......then editeditedit with your gut feeling......
many times that beggets the best results
- if someone else is gonna come with a differant angle & sometimes , its much better than what u had imagined ......why not , eh ?
....Its also about working with people who compliment what you do & realising that.

I might go so far to say that Noah & I are chalk & cheese ......ha
we operate very differantly , but with a mutual respect and understanding that benefits the aim .
we ofcourse have a lot in common , humour particularly perhaps , and a passion for sound & melody - but I think its the differances that enrich our friendship & wurk the most......
we both have egos ofcourse .
mine might've been smashed a few times more , but its like mercury - it'll re-assemble all too quickly....
we work on it ...and we hope we evolve ....
one of Noah's messages he wanted to get over in this lp , but didnt want to say in these exact words was
' GET OVER YOURSELF '
meaning - supress the ego , fight the natural urges to put yourself first ......
I think thats a prescient message for all times ? hope its goo xpk

This was beautiful to read

hey pete thanks for continuing to hang out and talk to us. Means a lot to me and probably a lot of other people on the board that you're so gracious to talk stuff out and give advice. It's become so normal to see you around here I sometimes forget for a second how big of a hero you are to me. Those Spaceman 3 records, those Spectrum records, your work with contemporary artists like mgmt and our boy noah, mean so much to me. I got the Spacemen 3 ‎– Live At The New Morning, Geneva, Switzerland, 18.05.1989 record last year, which is fucking amazing btw, but reading your liner notes really made my weekend.

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If I may tink my small dissenting bell... the message to not put yourself first is not always the best message, particularly to people who have no opportunities to exit environments/relationships that are abusive. Not everyone's confidence reassembles like mercury.

I'm not saying what seems like a disadvantage can't be an opportunity for growth; I get that. Just the rather glib self-congratulations for the allowance of oneself to be eclipsed every once and awhile can sometimes feel like permanent darkness to someone who's lived without very many privileges.

I understand that for many Noah's vibrant deliverance of this admonition to not always put oneself first would be prescient, but I think that to generalize the relevance of this message to everyone for all times would be wrong.

i see where you're coming from, but i think pride & confidence can exist w/out being egotistical....
your hearts in the right place, but I think the connection to between an abusive relationship & the question of allowing outside creative assistance is a bit of a stretch...
don't mean to sound rude if i do, you seem nice

Sonic! Thank you so much for these conversations with us! It's made these releases even more special for me. I will never forget all of the riddler photoshops, behind the scenes info and teases on these releases. It's been so much fun! Thank you forever!

Thanks sonic for everything you have been the best part of this forum for the last couple years. I hope the AC boys keep working with you in some regard.

Many have said it before and many will say it after me, but thank you Pete for your continued presence on the boards. I haven't been posting much lately but I'm always lurking to keep up on my AC news and vibes and it's always wonderful to read what you have to say. Stay awesome!

This is going to sound unnecessary as we're all very focused on the artistic aspects of the experience and the appreciation, but...

"Domino opened up the pocket book uber wide for this - to your benefit i feel ..."

I know it's none of our business, but I do hope that such support has proven rewarding for Domino. It's a harsh world, one with numerical realities, so I hope it's an endeavor - no, an adventure - they're willing to take part in again with Noah and Pete and their respective creative families in the future. For me, having fallen for the PB experience only this calendar year, it's been a rush.

^ totally agree. i hope all parties are as happy as the fans are with it! (monitarily and/or aurally)

yeah, I will say it seems like it was a very successful financial endeavor. He toured the album and sold a lot of tickets like 2 years it seems. I will say idk what the album sale numbers were like but it was getting a TON of press (ik domino payed for a good amount of it) when it was coming out and it seemed like it had a lot of buzz. I'd like domino would be pretty happy with the results

sumthing for the weakened ........

https://soundcloud.com/littlemissmanage ... ost-demo-1

hope its a godone xpk

whoa awesome!!! thanks so much Pete, you're so awesome!!!

Is it possible to download this? I could play this all the time. I like how clearly you can hear all of the drumming!

Is it possible to download this? I could play this all the time. I like how clearly you can hear all of the drumming!

you can . but from here = rip

....... i'm impressed you don't know how...... ! - score 10,000 points - !

.... I dare'nt reveal my yousendit style account to you guise......
......i see sum of u r too good at cracking into stuff you probably shouldnt be....ha
...if sumone moderated PM's me i'll supply the aifs......


Maybe MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPOOOOPPP ?

awesome! thankxpetek <3