My original point on music videos wasn't really about whether they can be cool and worth watching. I was more thinking about two other things.
1. In an environment where artists are scraping by, does it serve their financial interests to spend whatever they spend producing videos?
Excellent point. No, it doesn’t.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:51 am
by headroom)))
we<3ourhive wrote:
Anyone who thinks music videos are pointless has clearly never seen the gold soundz video
Hahahaha, great video! As random as Malkmus' non sequiters are. The "spit on a stranger" video is really great.
andthephantom: I pretty much find out about a video on IG and if its an artist I care about or the video segment looked cool, i'll watch it on youtube.
A lot of times fan videos are way better than official ones. Kinda obsessed with this one. The tension and suspense is masterful. https://www.instagram.com/p/C2lj-AEoM0r/
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:30 am
by blindmowing
Fan videos can be great, ya... I think we can all agree the best Animal Collective video is this... still the most iconic moment of the PW era other than bathroom flacs
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:53 pm
by destiny
i remember the monkey riches video with the guy with the rope pissed me off but i dont think thats an official video hehe ,,,
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:36 pm
by sky crawler
Observation about the two singles released so far:
Both tracks contain lengthy fade-outs terminating in extended stretches of completely dead air (Ferry Lady ≈ 0:04, Defense ≈ 0:10 ).
Did anyone else notice this? I don’t have any issue with fade-outs—think they suit each of the tracks here—but I did think it was peculiar, especially all the dead air! Is this part of some conspiracy (a Sinister Grift?!?) by the record label to pad the length of the album? Or do you think this was an artistic choice by PB to encourage the listener to sit with the song/album to reflect on things?
Just spit balling here! Don’t kill me!!
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:32 pm
by unrecordednight
blindmowing wrote:
Fan videos can be great, ya... I think we can all agree the best Animal Collective video is this... still the most iconic moment of the PW era other than bathroom flacs
My favorite music video is probably that of Grass. It's so low budget but effective.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:32 pm
by organic cat
sky crawler wrote:
Observation about the two singles released so far:
Both tracks contain lengthy fade-outs terminating in extended stretches of completely dead air
I believe the fade out is due to both singles being the last songs on their respective sides in the vinyl pressing.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:36 pm
by we<3ourhive
sky crawler wrote:
yo is your username a q and not u reference???
yesss haha love those guys
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:42 pm
by we<3ourhive
While we're on the subject of fanmade videos who could forget the good lovin outside tech deck vid!! Criminally underrated imo
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:06 am
by Tropic
Wow
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:19 am
by headroom)))
Floridada old man dance circle video is def the official one for me. Grass video is so nostalgic and classic. Probably top 5 AC video for me. Never seen the tech deck video before. That wavey camera work and the colors of the ramps fit the song so well. Thanks we<3ourhive!!
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:49 am
by MrAirplane
ascap has been updated with SG, gives the following cowrites
deakin - ferry lady, just as well
avey - ends meet
nadja (his daughter) - anywhere but here
cindy lee - defense
cass mccombs - venom's in
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:07 am
by blindmowing
cass mccombs!? that is not a collab i saw coming
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:56 am
by muark
Best fan made vid was the Cobwebs one with all the lions, it’s been taken down tho :/
Was really hoping this thing would freebird while I was away. Oh well!
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:57 am
by Fovrodi
Cass first came across my radar bc of PB (named "County Line" one of his fave songs of 2011), cannot wait to hear that collab!
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:28 pm
by organic cat
a contribution from his daughter is so sweet
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:30 pm
by Tropic
Presumably same daughter as part of the math
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:16 pm
by roopn
very curious to hear what her contribution is, if she's on the recording or just a writing credit
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:30 pm
by Alex Kintner
"Panda Bear: My daughter broke down one time and was really upset, she confessed that she didn't like the music I did. I felt pretty bad...I think she felt bad, like she wasn't supporting me. I assured her that she certainly wasn't the only one who didn't like what I did."
From Chicago Tribune interview from 2018
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:21 pm
by preakness
sky crawler wrote:
Observation about the two singles released so far:
Both tracks contain lengthy fade-outs terminating in extended stretches of completely dead air (Ferry Lady ≈ 0:04, Defense ≈ 0:10 ).
Did anyone else notice this? I don’t have any issue with fade-outs—think they suit each of the tracks here—but I did think it was peculiar, especially all the dead air! Is this part of some conspiracy (a Sinister Grift?!?) by the record label to pad the length of the album? Or do you think this was an artistic choice by PB to encourage the listener to sit with the song/album to reflect on things?
Just spit balling here! Don’t kill me!!
The padding doesn’t account for very much of the 45 minute run time. Panda bear and ac albums usually comfortably hit the 45 minute mark without much listener fatigue or covering the same territory twice. IMO 45 minutes is perfect album length.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:13 am
by thelucky1
MrAirplane wrote:
ascap has been updated with SG, gives the following cowrites
deakin - ferry lady, just as well
avey - ends meet
nadja (his daughter) - anywhere but here
cindy lee - defense
cass mccombs - venom's in
I really hope Avey sings on Ends Meet.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:34 pm
by evan6032
I am here once again in an attempt to will this record into freebirding.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:18 am
by hypo's
evan6032 wrote:
I am here once again in an attempt to will this record into freebirding.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:37 am
by muark
hypo's wrote:
evan6032 wrote:
I am here once again in an attempt to will this record into freebirding.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:00 pm
by tdegenaro
muark wrote:
hypo's wrote:
evan6032 wrote:
I am here once again in an attempt to will this record into freebirding.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:30 pm
by tdegenaro
great day to freebird a record!
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:15 am
by roopn
"trying to detect symbols of a crime"
I love that line
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:09 pm
by preakness
Funny how quiet it gets a month before a release. If they had announced it NOW and released it a month later, i think the hype would be way bigger. Really truly do not understand the point
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:37 pm
by conswaygo
stoked for this record. even my wife is jazzed. agree about the longer album cycle though.
will say I'm surprised about the choices for singles.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:51 am
by destiny
revisited defense, thats a good song, love love the piano. got me wanting to listen to tomboy since they are pretty similar structurally. damn therre is so amazing music on here. alsation darn, afterburner, count on me, benfica. sheesh .. its like the audio version of white foam washing in at the beach hehe
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:01 pm
by preakness
Gonna be the first to say I'm kind of dreading Danny Perez doing visuals for the upcoming usa tour leg.
Im hoping it will just be the band and lights for the spain dates in march.
I liked the direction pb's last visual guy took. Would be more okay with DP on this tour if he wasnt using mf AI
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:30 pm
by kinetic
preakness wrote:
Gonna be the first to say I'm kind of dreading Danny Perez doing visuals for the upcoming usa tour leg.
Im hoping it will just be the band and lights for the spain dates in march.
I liked the direction pb's last visual guy took. Would be more okay with DP on this tour if he wasnt using mf AI
i was reading the instagram and youtube comments on the last vid and the general reaction / most upvoted comments were pretty negative. so maybe that might affect a change, but idk if anyone at domino gives a shit. maybe noah doesn't read them. sounds like danny is taking a stance on it. so ..yea..unfortunately i'd prepare for it. it's a shame.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:45 pm
by preakness
kinetic wrote:
preakness wrote:
Gonna be the first to say I'm kind of dreading Danny Perez doing visuals for the upcoming usa tour leg.
Im hoping it will just be the band and lights for the spain dates in march.
I liked the direction pb's last visual guy took. Would be more okay with DP on this tour if he wasnt using mf AI
i was reading the instagram and youtube comments on the last vid and the general reaction / most upvoted comments were pretty negative. so maybe that might affect a change, but idk if anyone at domino gives a shit. maybe noah doesn't read them. sounds like danny is taking a stance on it. so ..yea..unfortunately i'd prepare for it. it's a shame.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:24 pm
by nathan
preakness wrote:
kinetic wrote:
preakness wrote:
Gonna be the first to say I'm kind of dreading Danny Perez doing visuals for the upcoming usa tour leg.
Im hoping it will just be the band and lights for the spain dates in march.
I liked the direction pb's last visual guy took. Would be more okay with DP on this tour if he wasnt using mf AI
i was reading the instagram and youtube comments on the last vid and the general reaction / most upvoted comments were pretty negative. so maybe that might affect a change, but idk if anyone at domino gives a shit. maybe noah doesn't read them. sounds like danny is taking a stance on it. so ..yea..unfortunately i'd prepare for it. it's a shame.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:32 pm
by tdegenaro
preakness wrote:
Funny how quiet it gets a month before a release. If they had announced it NOW and released it a month later, i think the hype would be way bigger. Really truly do not understand the point
at this point my only excitement for sg is going to be when it freebirds and/or the day it comes out. there's been such little press, and like whatever panda should live his life and not do ten million interviews or profiles or whatever. i feel like the euro dates were too long ago, maybe once the band is stateside i'll be a little more excited to listen to boots and all that but, yah. weird. genuinely more excited at this moment to hear a shaw deal.
i assume the dude is happy with domino because he is an adult and can make decisions for his life/art, but like, what the fuck are they doing lmfao.
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:57 pm
by scrambledgreggs
things tend to slow down a lot in the music world between year-end lists which happen right after Thanksgiving and then when new releases start to pick up again in late January, so that large gap is probably part of it
there will probably be another single before the album drops but I'm probably gonna wait to hear it all in context anyway. good thing A Shaw Deal is out next week
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:14 am
by roopn
complaining about labels and album roll outs is fucking played! just enjoy it when it gets here and in the meantime, chill
interviews usually start happening around release week. I'm excited to hear what noah has to say about these songs. hoping for another "a wolf is a type of dog" or "I OWN A CAR" moment (not facetious)
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:30 am
by Tropic
roopn wrote:
complaining about labels and album roll outs is fucking played! just enjoy it when it gets here and in the meantime, chill
99% of the people who will listen to this album do not give a shit. The week it's coming out they'll be like oh sick, new Panda Bear. It's only an issue for us losers and discord/reddit freaks. PATIENCE
Re: SINISTER GRIFT
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:34 am
by hypo's
Tropic wrote:
roopn wrote:
complaining about labels and album roll outs is fucking played! just enjoy it when it gets here and in the meantime, chill
99% of the people who will listen to this album do not give a shit. The week it's coming out they'll be like oh sick, new Panda Bear. It's only an issue for us losers and discord/reddit freaks. PATIENCE
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